View Full Version : Any advice on a Solo raider build?
CrankVulcan
05-23-2010, 02:35 PM
I've been surfing the Achievement forums and i've been inspired....Anyone have a good raid solo'er that can handle almost any raid? I'm an experienced player and I am very interested in what a single character is capable of. I dont want a boring nuker or anything...I'm more interested in a high dex evasion multiclass. I have recently got my hands on a rapier of superior potency 6 as well as a kama of the same effect. Any thoughts, links, or suggestions?
vVAnjilaVv
05-23-2010, 02:40 PM
I've been surfing the Achievement forums and i've been inspired....Anyone have a good raid solo'er that can handle almost any raid? I'm an experienced player and I am very interested in what a single character is capable of. I dont want a boring nuker or anything...I'm more interested in a high dex evasion multiclass. I have recently got my hands on a rapier of superior potency 6 as well as a kama of the same effect. Any thoughts, links, or suggestions?
Ouch, solo'ing raids...good luck with that.
I'd say make sure u have plenty of HP's and make it a wf'ed wizard for the immunites and self repairs. Also make sure to carry a 100 stack of major mnemonics at all times.
CrankVulcan
05-23-2010, 02:47 PM
blaaaa that sounds like a nuker to me. I need at least a small amount of melee capability if not a decent amount. Plus i need the ability to last a long time. I was thinking favored soul/monk....maybe 17/3. I know i won't get 9th lvl spells but its all good because i dont really need em in this kind of build.
vVAnjilaVv
05-23-2010, 02:49 PM
blaaaa that sounds like a nuker to me. I need at least a small amount of melee capability if not a decent amount. Plus i need the ability to last a long time. I was thinking favored soul/monk....maybe 17/3. I know i won't get 9th lvl spells but its all good because i dont really need em in this kind of build.
Yeah, that would most likely be a solid choice too, be careful of your spell pen tho, ur gonna lose three points and 1 point from your DC's.......which will come back to bite you sometimes.
voodoogroves
05-23-2010, 02:55 PM
Any of the evasion-casters seems strong. Caster 17 + evasion granting / other abilities 3 seems to be the most popular. Bonus, it works in PNP too (though the caster level loss and spell progression difference is more noticable there).
Rog1/Monk2/Cleric17 (halfling) or Wizzy 17 (forged) would be one way, though losing 9th level spells like Tukaw's build did/does or the mnk3/fvs17 seems doable as well (just hard for me to get behind w/ my PNP bias).
CrankVulcan
05-23-2010, 02:59 PM
yeah BB would be the only real choice for solid dps spells.... Idk if i could maintain good dps with weapons tho. That would be the problem
blaaaa that sounds like a nuker to me. I need at least a small amount of melee capability if not a decent amount. Plus i need the ability to last a long time. I was thinking favored soul/monk....maybe 17/3. I know i won't get 9th lvl spells but its all good because i dont really need em in this kind of build.
If you plan on melee being your source of DPS in solo raid attempts, you are gonna have a rough time of it. I suppose if you REALLY didn't want your damage to come from spells, working in elf Arcane Archer with a heavy investment could work (but still not ideal).
That aside, what raids are really soloable at this point? VoD, Reaver, DQ and theoretically Shroud and ToD. Anything else?
voodoogroves
05-23-2010, 03:17 PM
Tempest Spine certainly is, not sure if that counts though.
VON needs way too many people to open doors, etc. in part 5.
CrankVulcan
05-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Hows about a wf favored soul? are they up to the challenge?
Currently, the only Raids I know of being Solo'd (regularly, and well documented) so far are:
Vision of Destruction
Reaver's Fate
Zawabi's Revenge
Vault of Night requires a bare minimum of 2 people to get past VoN5. Have read rumors that Hound can also be Duo'd, and possibly even Solo'd. No confirmation I know of yet. If anyone knows of a confirmation, let me know. :)
Tower of Desapir is currently a work in progress by some very talented people. Keep your eyes on the Achievement Forum, if it happens, it'll be posted there. :) And from what's been seen and thought of, it's an evokers raid. So if you go Melee, don't expect to get past Part 2.
Otherwise, there are a variety of pure class builds that can potentially solo the 3 main ones that can be solo'd right now. No need of any specific builds. :)
To be honest, if you're thinking of solo'ing raid's you've got a long walk ahead of you before you can solo with ease in the big three. The gear you'll need will come from some of the raids themselves.
J1NG
transtemporal
05-23-2010, 04:04 PM
Take a look at merlocke's 18sor2rog wf build that he completed epic dq solo on. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=243412
sephiroth1084
05-23-2010, 04:14 PM
I think you'd need to go cleric or favored soul base over an arcane base, simply because arcanes have no efficient way to deal with fire-immune monsters (thinking about VoD here in particular).
Steveohio
05-23-2010, 09:49 PM
i'd be super impressed if a non-nuker class could solo any raids. Do you really think UMD is THAT overpowered?
Not to sound like an ass or anything, but how experienced are you really?(in ddo)
A superior pot 6 rapier/kama is fairly commonplace, and not really even that good, let alone on anyone that wants to attempt to melee descently. Anyone attempting to solo any raid, almost certainly has far better than that on his alts. And also knows that high dex multiclass using weapon finesse has horrible dps, and is more than likely a gimped build, unless of course hes a rogue, and then hes only slightly worse than his corresponding STR build.
Impaqt
05-23-2010, 10:11 PM
If ya gotta ask questions like this, you really are not prepared mentaly for soloing end game raids.
Have you noticed that many of those solo raid completeions are rather heavy on consumable useage?
There really isnt much glory in soloing that stuff... Stacks of heal scrolls... DOzens if not scores of mana pots....
But if you Insist the 18Fvs/2 Monk is s solid chice. as is the 17/2/1 cleric monk rogue.
CrankVulcan
05-23-2010, 10:36 PM
I'm not looking for a build as much as just looking to see what others have done with builds. I have many builds in
mind. As far as the weak dps comment....thanks for pointing out exactly what i had already said before steveohio.
Take a look at the Valiance build and tell me dex builds are weak. Seems like he pulled it off just fine. He used the
build that impaqt suggested.
Steveohio
05-23-2010, 11:09 PM
I've seen that build many times. Problem is thats a cleric/wis build, and gains almost all of its power from the cleric and wisdom. UMD from the 1 rogue, and evasion, +3 saves, 2 feats from the 2 monk
The dex and weapon finesse are there as complementary things. You would achieve higher dps with a 2hf/str of the same class/lvl split for the loss of minimal ac/reflex saves.
I'd also suggest the tukaw build for one that is a proven build in soloing raids. In fact I'd probably put that as the top build for soloing personally.
Problem with any of these type of builds is that they are super highly gear intensive. You more than probably have already done the raids multiple times and gotten the equipment required before you have a solid shot at soloing them anyways.
Add in the consumables used, and pretty much any build that can self-heal through spells has a shot so long as they don't require another body and you don't care to spend zillions of dollars in consumables.
CrankVulcan
05-24-2010, 01:50 AM
Can you link this build? I've never heard of it....
sirgog
05-24-2010, 04:00 AM
yeah BB would be the only real choice for solid dps spells.... Idk if i could maintain good dps with weapons tho. That would be the problem
Soloists do not need high DPS at all. Slow but steady wins the race solo.
The Valiance build is a case in point - beating down Suulo's 150k HP in VoD would take this build quite some time, but he did it with merely one mana potion. Higher DPS builds (like arcane nukers) can also solo that raid - for the costs of dozens of potions.
Impaqt
05-24-2010, 09:26 AM
Soloists do not need high DPS at all. Slow but steady wins the race solo.
The Valiance build is a case in point - beating down Suulo's 150k HP in VoD would take this build quite some time, but he did it with merely one mana potion. Higher DPS builds (like arcane nukers) can also solo that raid - for the costs of dozens of potions.
Excellent point.
One thing that many aspireing soloers do wrong is try to zerg difficult quests.
Soloing is rarely about speed if your trying to conserve resources.
Grimdiegn
05-24-2010, 09:35 AM
Can you link this build? I've never heard of it....
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=181901&highlight=Tukaw
Bacab
05-24-2010, 09:47 AM
Soloing a raid is not about killing the boss. It is about dieing slower than the boss. It is a battle of attrition.
More than likely you can beat these raids with Steady DPS. I believe a 18PLD/2ROG Defender could beat VoD pretty easily. Stack up on Concord Opp and UMD and Guards. Its all about regeneration of your SP and HP. Hence the Concord Opp. Also that 18/2 Build would be really good at other raids also. But understand this. You would be looking at a 80 Completion Shroud Toon just for cleansings.
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