What does the term "exploiter" mean when it is used to describe a build?

[Sithus_Dra_Vek]

I'm sorry if this question sounds stupid to some of yall who have been around for awhile, but I see the term "exploiter" pop up from time to time when a build is being talked about and I was just curious what it meant. It's funny but with being new and completely ignorant to alot of the terms which are exclusive to DDO, figuring out exactly what someone means in a post can be sorta like trying to decode a secret message. LOL

[shaolaolint]

generally used to reference the 1rogue/1monk/18ranger line. because it exploits the best reasons to splash rogue/monk. for umd, disable devices, free feat and a little AC boost.

[FluffyCalico]

I'm sorry if this question sounds stupid to some of yall who have been around for awhile, but I see the term "exploiter" pop up from time to time when a build is being talked about and I was just curious what it meant. It's funny but with being new and completely ignorant to alot of the terms which are exclusive to DDO, figuring out exactly what someone means in a post can be sorta like trying to decode a secret message. LOL

Nothing its just what someone called named his build.
If you look for ranger builds there is a 18 ranger/1 monk/1 rogue that is named exploiter

[FluffyCalico]

generally used to reference the 1rogue/1monk/18ranger line. because it exploits the best reasons to splash rogue/monk. for umd, disable devices, free feat and a little AC boost.

it also gives sneak attack/ sneak attack training / rouge boost/ and higher saves

[blitzschlag]

rouge boost

for the extra rosy-cheek look ;)

[Rasczak]

The Exploiter Ranger (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=168687)

You will also see things like batman build, the monster build and other wonderful names. Lets just say that some of the builds appeal to a wide audience and so they become common slang in DDO when used to compare.

[grodon9999]

The Exploiter Ranger (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=168687)

You will also see things like batman build, the monster build and other wonderful names. Lets just say that some of the builds appeal to a wide audience and so they become common slang in DDO when used to compare.

People keep mentioning this "Batman" build that must have fallen out of favor before my time, what exactly is it?

[Rasczak]

People keep mentioning this "Batman" build that must have fallen out of favor before my time, what exactly is it?

It was made a good few years ago and took advantage of some build exploits at the time. I think the level cap was 12 at the time but it was essentially a twf fighter with trap skills. It was before PrE's and certain nerfs ;) I think the forum explosion a few years ago nuked most of the pages and it was Grenfel (?) that originally came up with the idea. It's not valid these days since so many new things have been added in now. Search through the forums for some ideas

Some Strange Builds of the time (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=42780) :D

[Jasam01]

I think the most spoken of builds still in use are the exploiter and the monster.

The former being a Ranger build that has good DPS, trap skills, evasion, UMD, and decent AC (though not all at the same time) It's basicaly a good DPS build that can do everything.

The latter is a flat out DPS build. And is one of the higher DPS builds there are, but has been outdone by a few other buids since. Generaly, when comparing DPS, you'll see it being used as a baseline.

I've never seen that batman build myself. All I know is it was uber, and was killed with a nerf gun.

[MattiG]

+1 Jasman...

In short, exploit = overly versatile, especially in human form.

For instance, with a +6 cha item temporarily equipped, heroism pot or GH clickie, voice of master, and +5 human versatility action boost, spot/search/dd +13 goggles to swap out, +13 OL gloves, I have been able to reliably do the following:

- Cast stoneskin on myself and/or party members (not as good as wizzy, but if your buffer is in "mana conservation" mode, it's pretty **** cool for the ranger to bust out stoneskin for everyone
- Raise Dead... This one's been pretty huge in the short time I've been able to do it (unbuffed UMD is at 18 btw... without cartouche). Nothin' beats rezzin' your healer in a pinch.
- Any GH scrolls I come across... I can use on myself :)
- With wild instincts, spot is near 50, so can see most traps, doors, danger at level on elite and USUALLY search/disable/open them.... (usually... but I'm certainly not a rogue's rogue)
- 24 unbuffed reflex saves (not to mention 20 fort and 14 will at lvl 15)
- with ranger CMW's and a few enchantment points, can keep myself well healed
- equip any piece of gear I've come across (this was a recent development as I haven't been relentlessly plugging away at UMD)

Other stuff

- even with tempest focus, the bow skills are pretty ridiculous. Especially after hitting 11 ranger levels and getting improved precise shot. With a +11BaB and a long room full of enemies, if I'm able to target the one in the back, turn on many shot, and let loose, my monitor literally looks like the computer screen from The Matrix, but with orange text floating slowly upward instead of green. It's a glorious thing.
- Crucible swim on elite without taking damage
- Very good (but not epic) DPS. Against favored enemies, I might be pretty close to a few of my buddies. If the enemies in question are more hurt by weapon effects (icy burst of Greater elemental bane for instance), it's more of an even match. With a 28 pt build, I just made it to 26 STR unbuffed at lvl 15, with unbuffed DEX at 24.
- Ridiculous amount of granted feats, including evasion
- thanks to rogue lvl 1, tons of extra damage over the years from backstab bonuses.
- self buffed, no-clickie AC is getting close to 40 (I took fighter splash, not monk. with monk, it would be well over 40).


Long story short = jack of all trades.

Most important part of all this is my INexperience with the game. It's a 28 pt build, first toon, first server, been playing for exactly 1 month, and don't have any exceptional gear.

[jcdy10101010]

the batman build ran 7ftr 3 pal 2 rogue at cap lvl 12. gave imuninities, evasion in heavy armor at the time, umd, ac bonus, lay onhands, trap skills, healing wands,backstab, basiclty the best of all 3 classes.

[jcdy10101010]

the exploiter build is named such cause their was a bug that made that build unhitable ac was 9000+,

[Lilliana]

the batman build ran 7ftr 3 pal 2 rogue at cap lvl 12. gave imuninities, evasion in heavy armor at the time, umd, ac bonus, lay onhands, trap skills, healing wands,backstab, basiclty the best of all 3 classes.

I don't know if there were more than one version of Grenfell's Batman, but I seem to remember it as 4 rogue/2 pal/6 ftr.
Grenfell did a nice description of the build as:
"Probably my best work to date, and definitely the most difficult build to get right. Also extremely controversial as many people see the build as exploiting Evasion, or putting full Rogues out of business. That was never my intent, of course, but in final analysis, the Batman utilizes two of the strongest feats (Divine Grace and Evasion) in DDO and the best skill to have, period (UMD), to bring a level of flexibility and utility to an often ignored role: the IntimiTank."

It was hit by the change to human versatility and the fix to evasion among other things. But it was a rather amazing build :)

[Silvershaper]

the exploiter build is named such cause their was a bug that made that build unhitable ac was 9000+,

Seriously? I know I don't have as much experience in DDO as you (looking at your forum join date), but from what I've heard, the reason for the name was that people used to call splashing 1 lvl of monk for wisdom modifier to ac as an exploit, even though it really wasn't.