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ShadowHand2
05-15-2010, 07:15 PM
Just want to thank the neg points givers who have shown how easy it is for you to abuse the system and on top of that be allowed to insult the same person as you give neg points. Must be handy to be allowed to break forum rules like that and give neg points to add insut to injury....what a happy world you must live in. I guess when you get neg rep powers your given the green light by DDO to chase people off the forums. In the last day or so I learned that

1: Never post anything unless you ask permission by the neg rep givers.
2: Have a smile on your face when they jump on your thread and insult you to no end,
3: After they insult/belittle/mock you smile more when they give you neg rep points as well.
4: Show gratitude for their open abuse and praise them for their sheer brilliance of being allowed to get away with time after time.
5: Remind yourself that DDO allows this to go on and be happy the goal is to remove you from the forums by any means.
6: That your rights are only what DDO new staff of the neg rep givers give you.
7: That after 3+ years you have no choose but to delete your account from a rep system gone amok.

Again, I thank you for your open abuse of the system and mocking/belittle/insults DDO clearly allows to go on if you have certain pos points. After all it can be said its working as intended, that is very clear. Reminds me of a failed experiment they did with students by making one group fake prisoners and the other prison guards. It was cut short because the "prison guards" let the power go to their head and abused the ones under them.....fellow students. In other words...DDO you failed. Conversation over.

Lorien_the_First_One
05-15-2010, 07:21 PM
In addition to it containing false facts, this entire post is negative and intended to encourage flaming, and thus worthy of neg rep. Unfortunately I have to spread it around before giving your rep again.

hydra_ex
05-15-2010, 07:24 PM
In addition to it containing false facts, this entire post is negative and intended to encourage flaming, and thus worthy of neg rep. Unfortunately I have to spread it around before giving your rep again.

Half qft. I can still neg rep.

Loki
05-15-2010, 08:00 PM
Just want to thank the neg points givers who have shown how easy it is for you to abuse the system and on top of that be allowed to insult the same person as you give neg points. Must be handy to be allowed to break forum rules like that and give neg points to add insut to injury....what a happy world you must live in. I guess when you get neg rep powers your given the green light by DDO to chase people off the forums. In the last day or so I learned that

1: Never post anything unless you ask permission by the neg rep givers.
2: Have a smile on your face when they jump on your thread and insult you to no end,
3: After they insult/belittle/mock you smile more when they give you neg rep points as well.
4: Show gratitude for their open abuse and praise them for their sheer brilliance of being allowed to get away with time after time.
5: Remind yourself that DDO allows this to go on and be happy the goal is to remove you from the forums by any means.
6: That your rights are only what DDO new staff of the neg rep givers give you.
7: That after 3+ years you have no choose but to delete your account from a rep system gone amok.

Again, I thank you for your open abuse of the system and mocking/belittle/insults DDO clearly allows to go on if you have certain pos points. After all it can be said its working as intended, that is very clear. Reminds me of a failed experiment they did with students by making one group fake prisoners and the other prison guards. It was cut short because the "prison guards" let the power go to their head and abused the ones under them.....fellow students. In other words...DDO you failed. Conversation over.
I just went back and read some of your posts. You're pretty trollish. From what I can tell, you're the passive aggressive type that cops an attitude then complains at the reaction as if you're the victim.

If I had the ability to neg rep, you'd get some from me.

Oh, and that valley girl "conversation over" thing you do? Let it die...my 7yr old daughter does that, and it's not cute when she does it. It sure as **** isn't cute when you do it.

zztophat
05-15-2010, 08:07 PM
I gave positive rep.

Then I gave positive rep to everyone else in the thread for disagreeing.

Because. I. Can.

Bladecutter563
05-15-2010, 08:10 PM
I don't know, can't say I've gotten any negative rep yet, and I've got fairly strong viewpoints conflicting with many people on these forums. Then again I haven't checked my control panel in a while.

Maybe it's because, oh I don't know... I don't come off as a troll?

Marcus-Hawkeye
05-15-2010, 08:25 PM
Why? did you ask for help making a thrown weapon halfing build or something? (I suppose I might want to add that this was intended as a joke and nothing against you...)

Besides, what does rep really mean anyways? Nothing. If people make you feel bad by clicking on a button on a website forum... not sure what I could tell you to make it better other than, "You can't control other people's reactions, only your reaction to thiers."

zztophat
05-15-2010, 08:30 PM
Huh I turned on my rep to see where I was, and man, I lost a lot of points for calling warforged over powered. It wasn't offensive or trollish, just stating my opinion. Still, this is why I have rep turned off.

I'm going to turn it off again, just so I'm not tempted to start a thread complaining about rep drama.

Loki
05-15-2010, 08:30 PM
I gave positive rep.

Then I gave positive rep to everyone else in the thread for disagreeing.

Because. I. Can.
+1 for your commitment to a cause. I don't know that I'd have the wherewithal to hit the rep button on every post in the thread just for a lark.

Failedlegend
05-15-2010, 08:31 PM
While the OP was a little harsh he's not wrong about people giving neg rep for dumb reasons ie. someone disagreeing with you is not a reason to neg rep them. or daring to discuss a touchy subject like raid etiquette or that they like the share system, etc.

Oh and imaginery +1 to zztophat(too much rep given)

Borror0
05-15-2010, 08:31 PM
1: Never post anything unless you ask permission by the neg rep givers.
Plural? Everyone knows that only Borror0 gives neg rep on these forums.

Jendrak
05-15-2010, 08:32 PM
Plural? Everyone knows that only Borror0 gives neg rep on these forums.

So your the ass giving me my red bar!:mad:


Thanks :D

zztophat
05-15-2010, 08:34 PM
+1 for your commitment to a cause. I don't know that I'd have the wherewithal to hit the rep button on every post in the thread just for a lark.

Ya but now I'm tapped, so if another random "I'm complaining because rep is evil" thread comes along too soon then I won't be able to rep everyone there as well.

Notajedi
05-15-2010, 08:50 PM
Just want to thank the neg points givers who have shown how easy it is for you to abuse the system and on top of that be allowed to insult the same person as you give neg points. Must be handy to be allowed to break forum rules like that and give neg points to add insut to injury....what a happy world you must live in. I guess when you get neg rep powers your given the green light by DDO to chase people off the forums. In the last day or so I learned that

1: Never post anything unless you ask permission by the neg rep givers.
2: Have a smile on your face when they jump on your thread and insult you to no end,
3: After they insult/belittle/mock you smile more when they give you neg rep points as well.
4: Show gratitude for their open abuse and praise them for their sheer brilliance of being allowed to get away with time after time.
5: Remind yourself that DDO allows this to go on and be happy the goal is to remove you from the forums by any means.
6: That your rights are only what DDO new staff of the neg rep givers give you.
7: That after 3+ years you have no choose but to delete your account from a rep system gone amok.

Again, I thank you for your open abuse of the system and mocking/belittle/insults DDO clearly allows to go on if you have certain pos points. After all it can be said its working as intended, that is very clear. Reminds me of a failed experiment they did with students by making one group fake prisoners and the other prison guards. It was cut short because the "prison guards" let the power go to their head and abused the ones under them.....fellow students. In other words...DDO you failed. Conversation over.

I am a new F2P player but yet I am very fearful of posting anything because I KNOW that the people with neg rep ability will give NEG rep for no reason.

You get positive rep for posting silly pictures that really pertain to nothing, yet, you make a brilliant post with valid points you get NO positive points.

There is no basis for reputation. If someone does not like you, they will neg rep you just because. if you are in a guild you all just give yourself pos rep for no reason just so you can NEG rep people.

There is ZERO honor. Just another form of internet bullying. Which tells me that the population of the game would rather mock and belittle new players, than welcome them.

Loki
05-15-2010, 09:02 PM
I am a new F2P player but yet I am very fearful of posting anything because I KNOW that the people with neg rep ability will give NEG rep for no reason.

You get positive rep for posting silly pictures that really pertain to nothing, yet, you make a brilliant post with valid points you get NO positive points.

There is no basis for reputation. If someone does not like you, they will neg rep you just because. if you are in a guild you all just give yourself pos rep for no reason just so you can NEG rep people.

There is ZERO honor. Just another form of internet bullying. Which tells me that the population of the game would rather mock and belittle new players, than welcome them.
I suggest reading this (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=245930) thread, with emphasis on this (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2925803&postcount=33) post.

Eelpout
05-15-2010, 09:05 PM
I am a new F2P player but yet I am very fearful of posting anything because I KNOW that the people with neg rep ability will give NEG rep for no reason.

You get positive rep for posting silly pictures that really pertain to nothing, yet, you make a brilliant post with valid points you get NO positive points.

There is no basis for reputation. If someone does not like you, they will neg rep you just because. if you are in a guild you all just give yourself pos rep for no reason just so you can NEG rep people.

There is ZERO honor. Just another form of internet bullying. Which tells me that the population of the game would rather mock and belittle new players, than welcome them.

I am sure that there is neg rep thrown out from time to time by people for personal reasons or because they a god complex. However, if you look at the posting history of the majority of those with red bars, you may see a pattern of rude or inflammitory posts that also throw in personal insults to the community or devs. If someone gets a naughty point ding because they can't get through a discussion or get their point across without insults or a condescending tone, I have zero issue with that. If I act that way, I expect the same. As a side note, if the only positive or negative feedback a person gets is on an internet forum, there is much more cause for concern than the color and lenght of your bar. And no, that is not an euphomism.

Bladecutter563
05-15-2010, 09:08 PM
While the OP was a little harsh he's not wrong about people giving neg rep for dumb reasons ie. someone disagreeing with you is not a reason to neg rep them. or daring to discuss a touchy subject like raid etiquette or that they like the share system, etc.

Oh and imaginery +1 to zztophat(too much rep given)

I dunno, all of the strong viewpoints I mentioned were on said touchy subjects.

I suppose people would rather make a post inviting more negative rep for trolling or flamebait rather than do what they should and contact a moderator to review the post they got the negative rep from to see if they actually deserved it or not.

Therilith
05-15-2010, 09:11 PM
I am a new F2P player but yet I am very fearful of posting anything because I KNOW that the people with neg rep ability will give NEG rep for no reason.

You get positive rep for posting silly pictures that really pertain to nothing, yet, you make a brilliant post with valid points you get NO positive points.

There is no basis for reputation. If someone does not like you, they will neg rep you just because. if you are in a guild you all just give yourself pos rep for no reason just so you can NEG rep people.

There is ZERO honor. Just another form of internet bullying. Which tells me that the population of the game would rather mock and belittle new players, than welcome them.

Maybe your post wasn't as brilliant as you thought?

Jendrak
05-15-2010, 09:11 PM
I am a new F2P player but yet I am very fearful of posting anything because I KNOW that the people with neg rep ability will give NEG rep for no reason.

You get positive rep for posting silly pictures that really pertain to nothing, yet, you make a brilliant post with valid points you get NO positive points.

There is no basis for reputation. If someone does not like you, they will neg rep you just because. if you are in a guild you all just give yourself pos rep for no reason just so you can NEG rep people.

There is ZERO honor. Just another form of internet bullying. Which tells me that the population of the game would rather mock and belittle new players, than welcome them.

Dude, don't worry about it so much. Regardless fo what your rep bar says it's what your actuall reputation says about you that matters. Besides, unless you have a red bar longer than Borro's green bar people really arent going to pay attention. And if they do..****'em cause they probably don't know their ass from a whole in the ground anyway.

Skirmish
05-15-2010, 09:20 PM
Who cares/pays attention to their rep anyway?

Even after reading your post I haven't bothered to loot at my profile to see how much I have. It's unimportant and I never understood why it was added in the first place.

Bladecutter563
05-15-2010, 09:22 PM
Who cares/pays attention to their rep anyway?

Even after reading your post I haven't bothered to loot at my profile to see how much I have. It's unimportant and I never understood why it was added in the first place.

It's used to measure the length of someone's bar.

tomfar72
05-15-2010, 09:32 PM
I'm a new player and have seen what causes alot of neg rep, and that is the tone of the poster. For example in the last 2 weeks I have seen 2 posts about how hard Delera's is. One poster was polite and was honestly asking for advice on how to deal with the Ghostly Skeletons. For the most part he got good responses and even a cpl of offers to group up so he can be shown the ropes. Did he get Pos rep for asking a question? Probably not, but he did get his questions answered and I hope he repped those that offered help. The other post was something along the lines of "Delera's is a stoopid #$%^&* quest, worst quest ever. Turbine should be shot etc.." He also bashed on Gary Gygax as the DM voice.(didn't know who he was) He was abrassive and instead of calmly asking for advice(which he would have probably gotten if not for his tone) he decided to rant about how bad the questline is. He was rude, and got alot of rude responses back. I'm sure he got alot of neg rep from his tone.

It's just like real life; presentation is everything. If you go to your wife and say "Sweetie, I want to go out with the fellas tonight so we can catch up" will definately get a different response than saying,"Yo wench, me and the boys are going out and getting hammered at the strip club. Now go and make me a ham sammich!!"

Everyone gets neg rep from time to time. Sometimes you just rub someone the wrong way at the wrong time. It happens. However, if your bar is steady dropping into the red and that bothers you, you may want to take the time to look at your posts objectively.

Inspire
05-15-2010, 09:34 PM
Plural? Everyone knows that only Borror0 gives neg rep on these forums.

You better watch out, you better not pout, you better not cry I'm telling you why; Borror0's coming to neg.










Now on to business... who is gonna neg me from bringing up a christmas song in the spring?

Quanefel
05-15-2010, 09:36 PM
I suggest reading this (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=245930) thread, with emphasis on this (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2925803&postcount=33) post.

None of those links really addresses Notajedi concerns, more of an attempt to paint the OP as a rep farmer. Which of course he is not doing.

The fact of the matter is, anyone who can give neg rep has no restrictions of giving neg rep to whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Especially people with long standing feuds with someone, people who can not win a debate over a topic with words so they hit that neg rep button as quickly as they can or any other petty excuse a person could come up with to justify it to themselves on giving a neg rep outside what it was "intended" for.

Which is more pathetic, someone getting upset about getting random neg points or someone sitting in the dark, banging on their keyboard to hand out neg rep when their arguements fail? I am going with the latter.

Uska
05-15-2010, 09:37 PM
I'm a new player and have seen what causes alot of neg rep, and that is the tone of the poster. For example in the last 2 weeks I have seen 2 posts about how hard Delera's is. One poster was polite and was honestly asking for advice on how to deal with the Ghostly Skeletons. For the most part he got good responses and even a cpl of offers to group up so he can be shown the ropes. Did he get Pos rep for asking a question? Probably not, but he did get his questions answered and I hope he repped those that offered help. The other post was something along the lines of "Delera's is a stoopid #$%^&* quest, worst quest ever. Turbine should be shot etc.." He also bashed on Gary Gygax as the DM voice.(didn't know who he was) He was abrassive and instead of calmly asking for advice(which he would have probably gotten if not for his tone) he decided to rant about how bad the questline is. He was rude, and got alot of rude responses back. I'm sure he got alot of neg rep from his tone.

It's just like real life; presentation is everything. If you go to your wife and say "Sweetie, I want to go out with the fellas tonight so we can catch up" will definately get a different response than saying,"Yo wench, me and the boys are going out and getting hammered at the strip club. Now go and make me a ham sammich!!"

Everyone gets neg rep from time to time. Sometimes you just rub someone the wrong way at the wrong time. It happens. However, if your bar is steady dropping into the red and that bothers you, you may want to take the time to look at your posts objectively.

well put so +1

Bladecutter563
05-15-2010, 09:40 PM
You better watch out, you better not pout, you better not cry I'm telling you why; Borror0's coming to neg.










Now on to business... who is gonna neg me from bringing up a christmas song in the spring?

I would for the lulz, but I can't yet. Maybe next Spring. :(

:P

Borror0
05-15-2010, 09:48 PM
Now on to business... who is gonna neg me from bringing up a christmas song in the spring?
Borror0, of course. Who else?

Inspire
05-15-2010, 10:04 PM
Borror0, of course. Who else?

Well according to rule #1 in the OP I have to ask you permission to post a comment in rebutle to yours, so may I?

Oh wait, I just posted this.

SolarDawning
05-15-2010, 10:06 PM
In addition to it containing false facts, this entire post is negative and intended to encourage flaming, and thus worthy of neg rep. Unfortunately I have to spread it around before giving your rep again.

Don't worry, I got it covered.

Quanefel
05-15-2010, 10:23 PM
Don't worry, I got it covered.

So is that an open admission of abuse of the rep system?

SolarDawning
05-15-2010, 10:33 PM
So is that an open admission of abuse of the rep system?

Proper reasons to give negative reputation:
Post is inflammatory, derogatory, disruptive, trolling, or violates community guidelines.

Original post's contents:

Just want to thank the neg points givers who have shown how easy it is for you to abuse the system and on top of that be allowed to insult the same person as you give neg points. -OP is trying to pick a fight. This is inflammatory.


Must be handy to be allowed to break forum rules like that and give neg points to add insut to injury....what a happy world you must live in. I guess when you get neg rep powers your given the green light by DDO to chase people off the forums. Inflammatory, derogatory.


Again, I thank you for your open abuse of the system and mocking/belittle/insults (Inflammatory) DDO clearly allows to go on if you have certain pos points. After all it can be said its working as intended, that is very clear. Reminds me of a failed experiment they did with students by making one group fake prisoners and the other prison guards. It was cut short because the "prison guards" let the power go to their head and abused the ones under them.....fellow students. (Implied explicitly that people with the ability to give neg rep have "let the power go to their head" and are "abusing the ones under them". This is derogatory.)In other words...DDO you failed. Conversation over.

In fact, I think the entire post qualifies as trolling.

Arkat
05-15-2010, 10:35 PM
Just want to thank the neg points givers who have shown how easy it is for you to abuse the system and on top of that be allowed to insult the same person as you give neg points. Must be handy to be allowed to break forum rules like that and give neg points to add insut to injury....what a happy world you must live in. I guess when you get neg rep powers your given the green light by DDO to chase people off the forums. In the last day or so I learned that

1: Never post anything unless you ask permission by the neg rep givers.
2: Have a smile on your face when they jump on your thread and insult you to no end,
3: After they insult/belittle/mock you smile more when they give you neg rep points as well.
4: Show gratitude for their open abuse and praise them for their sheer brilliance of being allowed to get away with time after time.
5: Remind yourself that DDO allows this to go on and be happy the goal is to remove you from the forums by any means.
6: That your rights are only what DDO new staff of the neg rep givers give you.
7: That after 3+ years you have no choose but to delete your account from a rep system gone amok.

Again, I thank you for your open abuse of the system and mocking/belittle/insults DDO clearly allows to go on if you have certain pos points. After all it can be said its working as intended, that is very clear. Reminds me of a failed experiment they did with students by making one group fake prisoners and the other prison guards. It was cut short because the "prison guards" let the power go to their head and abused the ones under them.....fellow students. In other words...DDO you failed. Conversation over.

Yes




I am a new F2P player but yet I am very fearful of posting anything because I KNOW that the people with neg rep ability will give NEG rep for no reason.

You get positive rep for posting silly pictures that really pertain to nothing, yet, you make a brilliant post with valid points you get NO positive points.

There is no basis for reputation. If someone does not like you, they will neg rep you just because. if you are in a guild you all just give yourself pos rep for no reason just so you can NEG rep people.

There is ZERO honor. Just another form of internet bullying. Which tells me that the population of the game would rather mock and belittle new players, than welcome them.

No




So is that an open admission of abuse of the rep system?

Jackie Chiles

Arkat
05-15-2010, 10:41 PM
Proper reasons to give negative reputation:
Post is inflammatory, derogatory, disruptive, trolling, or violates community guidelines.

Original post's contents:
-OP is trying to pick a fight. This is inflammatory.

Inflammatory, derogatory.



In fact, I think the entire post qualifies as trolling.

Yes


-1 to ShadowHand2's OP btw.

Lorien_the_First_One
05-15-2010, 10:49 PM
I'm a new player and have seen what causes alot of neg rep, and that is the tone of the poster. For example in the last 2 weeks I have seen 2 posts about how hard Delera's is. One poster was polite and was honestly asking for advice on how to deal with the Ghostly Skeletons. For the most part he got good responses and even a cpl of offers to group up so he can be shown the ropes. Did he get Pos rep for asking a question? Probably not, but he did get his questions answered and I hope he repped those that offered help. The other post was something along the lines of "Delera's is a stoopid #$%^&* quest, worst quest ever. Turbine should be shot etc.." He also bashed on Gary Gygax as the DM voice.(didn't know who he was) He was abrassive and instead of calmly asking for advice(which he would have probably gotten if not for his tone) he decided to rant about how bad the questline is. He was rude, and got alot of rude responses back. I'm sure he got alot of neg rep from his tone.

It's just like real life; presentation is everything. If you go to your wife and say "Sweetie, I want to go out with the fellas tonight so we can catch up" will definately get a different response than saying,"Yo wench, me and the boys are going out and getting hammered at the strip club. Now go and make me a ham sammich!!"

Everyone gets neg rep from time to time. Sometimes you just rub someone the wrong way at the wrong time. It happens. However, if your bar is steady dropping into the red and that bothers you, you may want to take the time to look at your posts objectively.

Now here is someone who understands how it works

Quanefel
05-15-2010, 10:50 PM
Proper reasons to give negative reputation:
Post is inflammatory, derogatory, disruptive, trolling, or violates community guidelines.

Original post's contents:
-OP is trying to pick a fight. This is inflammatory.

Inflammatory, derogatory.



In fact, I think the entire post qualifies as trolling.

All of which is just your opinion which does nothing to explain you posting publicly to Lorien that YOU intended to give the OP a neg rep. Giving a neg rep is one thing, it takes a special kind of person to give neg rep and to publicly brag about doing it.

I am sure acts like this will help dismiss arguements suggesting the neg rep system is being abused? At least most who do hand our neg rep like candy have the mind to not publicly show they are doing it.

SolarDawning
05-15-2010, 10:55 PM
I'm a new player and have seen what causes alot of neg rep, and that is the tone of the poster. For example in the last 2 weeks I have seen 2 posts about how hard Delera's is. One poster was polite and was honestly asking for advice on how to deal with the Ghostly Skeletons. For the most part he got good responses and even a cpl of offers to group up so he can be shown the ropes. Did he get Pos rep for asking a question? Probably not, but he did get his questions answered and I hope he repped those that offered help. The other post was something along the lines of "Delera's is a stoopid #$%^&* quest, worst quest ever. Turbine should be shot etc.." He also bashed on Gary Gygax as the DM voice.(didn't know who he was) He was abrassive and instead of calmly asking for advice(which he would have probably gotten if not for his tone) he decided to rant about how bad the questline is. He was rude, and got alot of rude responses back. I'm sure he got alot of neg rep from his tone.

It's just like real life; presentation is everything. If you go to your wife and say "Sweetie, I want to go out with the fellas tonight so we can catch up" will definately get a different response than saying,"Yo wench, me and the boys are going out and getting hammered at the strip club. Now go and make me a ham sammich!!"

Everyone gets neg rep from time to time. Sometimes you just rub someone the wrong way at the wrong time. It happens. However, if your bar is steady dropping into the red and that bothers you, you may want to take the time to look at your posts objectively.

Now this is a post worthy of positive reputation. Hope more people take this message to heart.

Uska
05-15-2010, 11:16 PM
All of which is just your opinion which does nothing to explain you posting publicly to Lorien that YOU intended to give the OP a neg rep. Giving a neg rep is one thing, it takes a special kind of person to give neg rep and to publicly brag about doing it.

I am sure acts like this will help dismiss arguements suggesting the neg rep system is being abused? At least most who do hand our neg rep like candy have the mind to not publicly show they are doing it.

Things would likely be better if you had to post a comment with any rep posting so at least the person who got the rep good or bad would know who gave it to them knowing that person your rep'd would know you did it might cause people to think twice when givng rep.

Arkat
05-15-2010, 11:20 PM
Things would likely be better if you had to post a comment with any rep posting so at least the person who got the rep good or bad would know who gave it to them knowing that person your rep'd would know you did it might cause people to think twice when givng rep.

I pretty much always tell people when and why (or I at least imply why) I neg rep them.

The only time I don't is when the post is an OBVIOUS baiting/trolling one. In those cases, the OP pretty much is (or should be) expecting to get hit hard.

Borror0
05-15-2010, 11:24 PM
Well according to rule #1 in the OP I have to ask you permission to post a comment in rebutle to yours, so may I?

Oh wait, I just posted this.
Well, according to another post in this thread, I'm a bully so I'm afraid I will have to say no and then neg rep you for daring talking back to me!

Also, "Rawr!"

Missing_Minds
05-15-2010, 11:29 PM
I look at it this way. Op made his post on a weekend when he knows the mods won't be around.

Vua
05-15-2010, 11:32 PM
All of which is just your opinion which does nothing to explain you posting publicly to Lorien that YOU intended to give the OP a neg rep. Giving a neg rep is one thing, it takes a special kind of person to give neg rep and to publicly brag about doing it.

I am sure acts like this will help dismiss arguements suggesting the neg rep system is being abused? At least most who do hand our neg rep like candy have the mind to not publicly show they are doing it.

Let's be honest here, this system has done nothing to affect your reputation or that of your brother. And wouldn't you rather know who is neg repping you. The anonymous neg rep seems rather gutless. Honestly though, the 2 of you deserve the negative rep you get.

Quanefel
05-15-2010, 11:52 PM
Things would likely be better if you had to post a comment with any rep posting so at least the person who got the rep good or bad would know who gave it to them knowing that person your rep'd would know you did it might cause people to think twice when givng rep.

Either a comment or the name of the person who gave you a neg/pos rep as well. This sniping at people with neg reps with vitually no accountablity on their part can be seen as abusive. Of course those with the ability to give neg reps will never acknowledge that or admit anything is wrong in the system. How can they when they are sitting comfortable with their high rep? While at the same time the vast majority of people who can not give neg reps are basically forced to walk around on egg shells so as not to upset those with high reps.

The fact is, power corrupts. Taking a small section of the community and placing powers in their hands that the majority of forum users do not possess is not treating people fairly or equally. It is placing one small group above everyone else with abilities not open to everyone, equally. All one has to do is get enough people to give them a certian amount of positive rep and they are set. If anyone does point these flaws out and that it is abused, be prepared to be dogpiled with alot of neg rep for your troubles. Only proving the point that yes, the system is being abused.

There would be no harm in a forum users name being attached to their rep they hand out so that person can know who it is and why they were given it. Those who use the system properly would not have issue if Turbine was to readjust the system like this.

7-day_Trial_Monkey
05-16-2010, 12:10 AM
All one has to do is get enough people to give them a certian amount of positive rep and they are set. If anyone does point these flaws out and that it is abused, be prepared to be dogpiled with alot of neg rep for your troubles. Only proving the point that yes, the system is being abused.

You've proven nothing. You've stated your paranoid fantasies about people conspiring to get themselves high rep.

Is it so hard to believe that people with high rep got it from making helpful posts?

Is it so hard to believe that people get neg rep for making bad posts?

Lorien_the_First_One
05-16-2010, 12:15 AM
All of which is just your opinion which does nothing to explain you posting publicly to Lorien that YOU intended to give the OP a neg rep. Giving a neg rep is one thing, it takes a special kind of person to give neg rep and to publicly brag about doing it.


Either a comment or the name of the person who gave you a neg/pos rep as well. This sniping at people with neg reps with vitually no accountablity on their part can be seen as abusive.

Wait a minute, first you call someone names for NOT being anonomous and then you complain about people who give rep anon. I think you just qualified yourself as trolling in this thread. Unfortunately I'm out of rep for the day. If I think of it I'll visit tomorrow and take care of that.

Warlawk
05-16-2010, 12:36 AM
Shut rep off and never bother to look at it again. Problem solved. If turbine is too dense to see that a "fun" system like this will be nothing but abused in the hands of the faceless internet masses then just take matters into your own hands. The whole system is a stupid high school popularity contest given numbers, and pretty insulting. So just take matters into your own hands and shut it off.

Every single forum I have ever seen that uses the rep system ends up with drama based on little green or red bars, it's stupid.

Ashurr
05-16-2010, 12:48 AM
Hi Welcome

Kurt Dallie

Dark_Helmet
05-16-2010, 12:58 AM
Well, according to another post in this thread, I'm a bully so I'm afraid I will have to say no and then neg rep you for daring talking back to me!

Also, "Rawr!"

Hey, have you cleaned up those pizza boxes yet? ;)


Trolling begats trolling so the OP should expect his red bad of shame to glow (or turn black).

Quenafails while Tomgoesfar as rep is concerned.

7-day_Trial_Monkey
05-16-2010, 12:58 AM
Shut rep off and never bother to look at it again. Problem solved. If turbine is too dense to see that a "fun" system like this will be nothing but abused in the hands of the faceless internet masses then just take matters into your own hands. The whole system is a stupid high school popularity contest given numbers, and pretty insulting. So just take matters into your own hands and shut it off.

Every single forum I have ever seen that uses the rep system ends up with drama based on little green or red bars, it's stupid.

Is it a coincidence that people who make childish, rude, and insulting posts are the one's who don't like the system? I think not.

Quanefel
05-16-2010, 01:00 AM
You've proven nothing. You've stated your paranoid fantasies about people conspiring to get themselves high rep.

Is it so hard to believe that people with high rep got it from making helpful posts?

Is it so hard to believe that people get neg rep for making bad posts?

I have not proven anything and I have paranoid fantasies about how people gain high rep? That is interesting considering it is not paranoid nor a conspiricy to understand that in order to gain high rep, that yes a person will need alot of people to give them positive rep to the point they are "set". Meaning the point where they can hand out negatives with little worry of getting negatives themselves. Someone with alot of rep should know that by now.

Is it so hard to believe that "some" people with high rep got it from gaming the system from their friends or guildmates artifically boosting their scores? Because you know, people are angels and would never think of doing that....

Is it so hard to believe that people get neg rep in many cases, for no real reason? Since of your high rep I can imagine someone in your position not understanding that some people giving out neg reps might be doing it out of spite, revenge, or any number of petty reasons they have to do so. Those not passing out negatives for petty reasons would have no need to get defensive about something that does not apply to them.

Tarrant
05-16-2010, 01:13 AM
I look at it this way. Op made his post on a weekend when he knows the mods won't be around.

Don't worry, my thread-going-nowhere-fast alarm went off. I'll take care of everything from here!