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Maldavenous
05-11-2010, 02:30 AM
Possible TR path for my 20 Ranger. Should really come up with one of those cool names to call it...

14 Ranger lets me keep useful ranger spells as well as a good chunk of Favored Damage (Enhancements) and Favored Enemy Feats. 6 Fighter gets me a good damage and to-hit boost as well as enough feats to pick up Khopeshes and Improved Critical for both Slashing and Ranged.

Lost Damage:
Level 15 Favored Enemy 2 points
Level 20 Favored Enemy 2 points
~2.5% Attack Speed (Assuming AA Set, ~12.5% attack speed without it)

Gained Damage:
Kensai Longbow Mastery 1 1.6-2.2 points (depends on 19-20 base or 20 only crit range)
Weapon Specialization Longbow 2 points
Fighter Strength 1 point
Fighter Haste Boost 2 20% attack speed 20 seconds (100seconds/rest great with Many Shot)

Subtract 2 from STR/DEX if I decide not to make this my final TR and use +2 tomes instead of the +4 DEX tome I do have and possible +4 STR tome I don't have.



Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Elf Female
(6 Fighter \ 14 Ranger)

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 17 24 (38) (+7 Item, +1 Exceptional, +2 Exceptional, +4 Tome)
Dexterity 19 22 (36) (+7 Item, +1 Exceptional, +2 Exceptional, +4 Tome)
Constitution 12 12 (20) (+6 Item, +2 Tome)
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 10 10 (18) (+6 Item, +2 Tome)
Charisma 8 8

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 16 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Ranger)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

Maldavenous
05-11-2010, 05:50 PM
Any feedback?

Is there a better build with the same or better functionality?

unbongwah
05-11-2010, 06:05 PM
Not convinced this would be a better AA than a pure ranger, but...

You don't need such high base DEX; and you can dump-stat WIS if you're already planning on a +6 WIS item. Alternatively, have you considered a monk splash with higher base WIS? You'd give up your lvl 4 spells but gain an extra feat (or two) plus the WIS AC boost.

Maldavenous
05-11-2010, 11:30 PM
Not convinced this would be a better AA than a pure ranger, but...

Reasons I think it could be better:

1. Enough feats for Khopesh and IC:Slashing as well as Power Attack.
2. Greater base damage with bows on non-favored enemies as well as favored enemies.
3. More HP than a pure ranger with the same stats.
4. Almost all the useful spells of a full 20 ranger.
5. Truly devastating Haste Boost Many Shots.

What I'm looking for is reasons it isn't going to be better.

1. Doesn't receive the Capstone for Ranger (~12.5% attack speed) however this doesn't stack with the AA set from ToD so it's only a ~2.5% attack speed loss to not be 20 Ranger.

Maldavenous
05-11-2010, 11:35 PM
You don't need such high base DEX;

I'll consider it nice to be able to hit the epic DQ on the run on a 2+. There are some epic monsters that my current 32 DEX AA has some issues hitting.


and you can dump-stat WIS if you're already planning on a +6 WIS item. Alternatively, have you considered a monk splash with higher base WIS? You'd give up your lvl 4 spells but gain an extra feat (or two) plus the WIS AC boost.

Yes, I've considered it. It doesn't seem as worth it seeing the current state of epics and I don't have any slots I consider available for AC gear.