PSA: For those who are looking for high level Clerics/FvS

[cdemeritt]

The other night I log onto my 19th lvl cleric in the hopes of doing a Hound raid... looking to get 20 done before TR'ing this cleric.... Hound is an easy pug raid, as long as you have the 3 key spots with people who know what to do, and the rest listen to the "Don't kill the little dogs, don't touch the stones..." you are generally going to be in good shape...

So I log in, with the hopes of doing a hound run.... open the LFM panel and great there is a hound run forming.... mostly filled, but they can still use a cleric.... Then in the Comments "Hjealer Wanted" ... I closed the LFM panel, and logged out, jumping on a lowbie...


Just for your info: Using the slang "Hjealer" in your LFM, you are more likely to put off the Clerics and FvS that you are trying to attract.... Most people who have played a high lvl healing class have usually suffered a lot at the hands of pugs, and see this as a jumbo neon sign with 6ft letters reading "Lots of Pain here"

[sultanica]

It's always a 50/50 chance

I joined a von5/6 "Healer Needed" the other night and was pleasantly surprised to find that I did not burn through more than 20 wands and I still had 2/3 SP left after von6. The group were well stocked and built.

Sometimes you get lucky.

Other times, everything goes smooth for a brief period and all of a sudden falls to pieces. People run ahead or fall behind causing party wipes, etc. All it takes is one person pulling a Leroy to mess everything up.

[Montrose]

If they really put "hjealer needed" in the LFM, then it was almost certainly a tongue-in-cheek statement.

Even if they put "healer needed" in the LFM it's still fine, especially for that raid, in which you want someone who is basically going to stand there and hit the heal button over and over.

It's the hound. Clerics and FvS sit there and smack the cure button until the team wins. I think saying "healer needed" pretty accurately describes what the group creater is looking for.

[cdemeritt]

It's always a 50/50 chance

I joined a von5/6 "Healer Needed" the other night and was pleasantly surprised to find that I did not burn through more than 20 wands and I still had 2/3 SP left after von6. The group were well stocked and built.

Sometimes you get lucky.

Other times, everything goes smooth for a brief period and all of a sudden falls to pieces. People run ahead or fall behind causing party wipes, etc. All it takes is one person pulling a Leroy to mess everything up.

True... But those odds change when the word goes from Healers to Hjealers.... Might still be a solid group, but it is unlikely my clerics will ever join a group looking for "hjealers", healers wanted, I'm going to look at the group and make a decision based on what I see... hjealers wanted will almost always be an immediate pass...

[Zaodan]

I don't like playing my hjealers anyway.

[cwfergtx]

Maybe they are like me with fat fingers and occasionally hit an extra key since the h and j are next to each other. It is totally possible but who knows these days.

[Thailand_Dan]

Ok, Im confused....and slow, and a horrible typist. "Hjealer" to me implies someone typed it fast and accidentally hit the J key, which is right next to the H key, and didn't take the time to reread it before submitting it. While this may suggest a bit of recklessness, its not really a neon sign spouting STAY AWAY, to me. Or is there some new slang along the lines of -izel, -izzy, etc. that I'm unaware of.

EDIT: See told you I'm slow, got in after someone else mentioned the same point :)

[ArichValtrahn]

This is all kinda of fail. Moreso than the LFM's typo.

[moops]

HJEEL ME
Obviously Tongue in Cheek--but they spelled it wrong :)

I thought this would be a rant on how they wouldn't except a 3rd healer. . .which has happened to me quite a bit.

[cdemeritt]

Ok, Im confused....and slow, and a horrible typist. "Hjealer" to me implies someone typed it fast and accidentally hit the J key, which is right next to the H key, and didn't take the time to reread it before submitting it. While this may suggest a bit of recklessness, its not really a neon sign spouting STAY AWAY, to me. Or is there some new slang along the lines of -izel, -izzy, etc. that I'm unaware of.

EDIT: See told you I'm slow, got in after someone else mentioned the same point :)

Really... you haven't seen how often the hjeal is being put into threads and such lately... do me a quick favor, go to the advance search of the forums, type hjeal in the search, and search entire threads... see how many times this comes up... then tell me all these people are just mis-typing it. It seems to be a very annoying new term that is making it's way into the game, like muppet, noob, etc... I do not for a second think this was an accident.

Oh, and yes to me it doesn't matter if you are on Korthos or Epic Von 6... Unless I know at least some of the people/guilds in the group hjealer wanted= noobs need a babysitter/ someone to blame when things go south.

[Judo]

Hjeel me!

is the reference of course, being the dying cry of a dying noob...


to put it in the lfm is clearly a joke, that is all

if you gleaned something else from it, you were looking for something else...

and it looks like you found it by switching to a lowbie

[Bobthesponge]

"hjealer" is slang? for what?

[Mockduck]

I don't have Hjealing, I'm a Bjattle Cjeric.

[TFPAQ]

It's always a 50/50 chance

I joined a von5/6 "Healer Needed" the other night and was pleasantly surprised to find that I did not burn through more than 20 wands and I still had 2/3 SP left after von6. The group were well stocked and built.

Sometimes you get lucky.

Other times, everything goes smooth for a brief period and all of a sudden falls to pieces. People run ahead or fall behind causing party wipes, etc. All it takes is one person pulling a Leroy to mess everything up.

Sorry, but if you burned through 20 wands and consider that pleasantly surprised I want you in all my groups!!! Not Epic?

[Streaker]

Sorry, but if you burned through 20 wands and consider that pleasantly surprised I want you in all my groups!!! Not Epic?

im sure it wasn't epic, when was the last time you saw a "healer" whip out a wand in a raid?

[systemstate]

I'm with the OP on this one. If you can't spell a two word sentence correctly, I'm not joining your group. Either you're stupid, or lack attention to detail. Both traits are bad in a quest.

...Unless you're a barbarian. As a matter of fact, I think those traits are prerequisites for the class. I'm sure I saw it in the fine print somewhere. ;)
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[Khestral]

im sure it wasn't epic, when was the last time you saw a "healer" whip out a wand in a raid?

last week... that barbarian was whiping that wand like a jockey with a riding crop!

What? he was the main healer... I was playing tank!

[Uska]

Prostatic specific antigen for clerics? they must be male. Sorry lab tech humor when I see PSA thats what I think instantly

[GreenGurgler]

OP, what exactly is your point???? :confused:

Were you offended that they posted an ad looking specifically for a healer (which is what you logged in hoping to play :confused::confused:)?

Or was it that they referred to it as a Hjealer rather than a Healer :confused::confused::confused:???

If its the first, I don't follow you. They advertised what the wanted and also happened to be exactly what you were looking for. :rolleyes:

If its the second, you have got to be frigging kidding right :eek:??? :rolleyes:

You are actually offended by someone who either:
a) mistyped with fat fingers (which tells you nothing about the group or leader except his physical anatomy) or
b) they in jest typed Hjealer just like people will say "Hjeal me" or more common "Hjaste me". Its a joke. Having fun with a commonly mistyped word. I hear the "Hjaste me" spoken probably every single day that I play and as a Sorc, I am never once offended. Never once have I left a group or decided not to join because of it.

You sir are either thin skinned, confused or had a bad day and took it out in game. You make no sense at all.

Gjood Djay Sjir!!!!!!! ;)







I don't have Hjealing, I'm a Bjattle Cjeric.

Awesome! Made me laugh, then made me right down your alts names to add to my "do not group with" list for using improper spelling. You sir have offended me with your mistype. :p .

[sirgog]

Ok, Im confused....and slow, and a horrible typist. "Hjealer" to me implies someone typed it fast and accidentally hit the J key, which is right next to the H key, and didn't take the time to reread it before submitting it. While this may suggest a bit of recklessness, its not really a neon sign spouting STAY AWAY, to me. Or is there some new slang along the lines of -izel, -izzy, etc. that I'm unaware of.

EDIT: See told you I'm slow, got in after someone else mentioned the same point :)

Hjeel comes from the dopey barbarian in the Order of the Stick comedy D&D comics. That barbarian epitomizes what 3 Intelligence truly means.

People asking for a healer tend to be one of two types of groups:

a) A non-self-sufficient group running low level content
or
b) A solid group running stuff that's tough enough for their level that they actually do need a dedicated healer - example: a 17-20 Shroud normal group with 1 arcane, 1 bard-barian and nine other melees. In this case, that twelfth slot better be filled by someone with Mass Heal that knows how to use it, or in a pinch someone with Maximize Spell and three or more Mass Cure spells can fill in (although they may need mana potions).

[Bladecutter563]

zmg hjeel pls

OMG WHER MY HJEELS//?

Both statements scream "highly intelligent and articulate group member" to me.

I would still join that group though, unless I had reasons to do otherwise. It's an obvious joke, most people not worth healing don't mistype it anyway. Not that I notice. They just spell worse than my cat.

[Grond]

im sure it wasn't epic, when was the last time you saw a "healer" whip out a wand in a raid?

My mother wand whipped in a raid once... once.

[GhoulsTouch]

I think it was meant as a joke, or in humility if you think about it.
Being it scared someone made it all the more funny.

[spyder7723]

I'm with ya op. Hjeal ranks right up there with rouge. I can't stand either and when I see someone type that it screams juvenile to me.
A: its intentionally being mispelled, I don't get the humor and find that stuff annoying so would not enjoy the group. I do not tolerate fools.
B:it was bad typing, in which case the person is too lazy to fix it. That kind of laziness leads me to believe they don't have a single potion on them.

[Montrose]

Wow... There are a lot of people here that get seriously uptight about spelling. And here I thought *I* was pedantic.

Look, if someone is forming a Hound run (which is was this thread refers to) then they are at or close to level cap. It also means that they almost certainly know the quest quite well.

The hound is not all that difficult if you have someone with solid fog or intimidate, a decent bard, and a couple of clerics. You've got 3-4 people that matter in a 12 person raid (which is actually better than other raids like DQ or Reaver where you have 1 or 2 people that matter).

The hound does not need to be run with military precision. On normal, a good portion of the quest is just standing there waiting for DM text to appear. Someone putting "hjealer wanted" in their hound LFM is almost certainly tongue-in-cheek and is exactly the type of person I'd want to group with; someone who won't take things too seriously and start screaming "MORE DOTS!".

[cdemeritt]

OP, what exactly is your point???? :confused:

Were you offended that they posted an ad looking specifically for a healer (which is what you logged in hoping to play :confused::confused:)?

Or was it that they referred to it as a Hjealer rather than a Healer :confused::confused::confused:???

If its the first, I don't follow you. They advertised what the wanted and also happened to be exactly what you were looking for. :rolleyes:

If its the second, you have got to be frigging kidding right :eek:??? :rolleyes:

You are actually offended by someone who either:
a) mistyped with fat fingers (which tells you nothing about the group or leader except his physical anatomy) or
b) they in jest typed Hjealer just like people will say "Hjeal me" or more common "Hjaste me". Its a joke. Having fun with a commonly mistyped word. I hear the "Hjaste me" spoken probably every single day that I play and as a Sorc, I am never once offended. Never once have I left a group or decided not to join because of it.

You sir are either thin skinned, confused or had a bad day and took it out in game. You make no sense at all.

Gjood Djay Sjir!!!!!!! ;)





Awesome! Made me laugh, then made me right down your alts names to add to my "do not group with" list for using improper spelling. You sir have offended me with your mistype. :p .




My point: A no-name pug raid leader from a no-names guild, has 9 people in a pug raid at 4am, all members of this group are not known, from guilds less than 1 week old or unguilded, no clerics or FvS, or even a bard at this point... Advertising for a Hjealer, even if a joke, might not be you best course of action here... Myself, am very selective of the raids I pug... I most likely would not have joined a reaver with this group... Yes the "word" if you can call it that hjealer was the main reason I didn't join this raid, as it screams of immature, and new players...

The hound raid is one of the easier raids, yet, I've seen many fail because 1 person or more just will not listen... I know not all people will be the same, but I know many clerics are careful about pugs they join, and I cannot imaging I'm the only person who plays a cleric who would be put off by this... And if it is taking a while for you to find a healer, you might want to consider why...


Now for the people who think this is just a typo... sorry don't buy it... not for a sec, but even if it was, the point still stands, you might want to make sure your LFM's say want you really want them to say ... As for the fat-finger defense... not even going to go there....

As for a hjaste... if we are in a quest running for our lives, due to whatever, and someone mis-spells a word, I'm not holding it against them... But we are talking an LFM in the Market... The last devil that was seen in the market was what, 2 years ago?




Awesome! Made me laugh, then made me right down your alts names to add to my "do not group with" list for using improper spelling. You sir have offended me with your mistype. :p .

Please feel free to do so, but it might just be easier to put hjealer wanted in all your LFM's, that way you don't have to remeber my names, I just won't join you... Although I do have to give you points for the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory reference (note: I said Points, not rep)




Look, if someone is forming a Hound run (which is was this thread refers to) then they are at or close to level cap. It also means that they almost certainly know the quest quite well.


LOL... You haven't been playing much have you... Just because someone is lvl 20 or even a TR, doesn't mean they know jack.... Pre-mod 9, I'd agree with you, however I've run into too many lvl 20 wizards that don't know they can swap spells, rangers that don't know they can use wands, rogues that know anything about being a rogue, and how many people have you bumped into without a heavy fort item, or have less than 200 hps? There are a few commonly known Lvl 20 Barbarians on Thelanis with less than 600hp fully raged... Beyond that, just because someone is capped, doesn't mean they know every quest/raid inside and out yet... I've been playing 2 1/2 years now, and have only completed the abbot raid twice, on one toon... There are more than a few players that couldn't find there way out of a wet paperbag, and being capped doesn't change this...





The hound is not all that difficult if you have someone with solid fog or intimidate, a decent bard, and a couple of clerics. You've got 3-4 people that matter in a 12 person raid (which is actually better than other raids like DQ or Reaver where you have 1 or 2 people that matter).



About the only reason I even considered pugging my cleric in the first place...

[pSINNa]

One of my fellow guildies was in a pug for Black Anvil Mines just a few days ago.

At a certain point of the quest, the 2 x clerics both declared 'no healing for anyone unless we get all the ore'.

I see a lot of posts where clerics define a set of rules by which they 'deny healing' or 'deny groups the privilege of their presence'.

Really?, I mean, really people?.

Being a good healer takes a certain mindset in my opinion, the above does not describe what it takes.

My cleric was part of a power levelling group that charged 10 levels in a week very recently, it was 'resource intensive' for me.
It did not bother me in the slightest, my toon was levelling at the speed of light right?

My FVS was specifically built for mellee and solo fun for me, but is raid flagged, and semi-heal specced, carrying wands and scrolls (and appropriate enhancements) so that when the nanny-bot role is what's called for, it's what's delivered.

Every single member of my guild plays at least one cleric/fvs to facilliate guild raiding whenever and in whatever raid/quest we like with whatever toons we would like to play on the day.

May i suggest you find a guild that will take away the 'i'm a healer!' mindset, and replace it with 'I'm a team player'.

This is not an attempt to troll, it may help you to see things a little bit differently (perhaps)

Coit out~

Ghallanda : Coitfluff, Coitrippr, Coitfu, Coithealz, Coitburner, Coittimeh, Luciforge Son of Coit : Revelationz

[cdemeritt]

One of my fellow guildies was in a pug for Black Anvil Mines just a few days ago.

At a certain point of the quest, the 2 x clerics both declared 'no healing for anyone unless we get all the ore'.

I see a lot of posts where clerics define a set of rules by which they 'deny healing' or 'deny groups the privilege of their presence'.

Really?, I mean, really people?.

Being a good healer takes a certain mindset in my opinion, the above does not describe what it takes.

My cleric was part of a power levelling group that charged 10 levels in a week very recently, it was 'resource intensive' for me.
It did not bother me in the slightest, my toon was levelling at the speed of light right?

My FVS was specifically built for mellee and solo fun for me, but is raid flagged, and semi-heal specced, carrying wands and scrolls (and appropriate enhancements) so that when the nanny-bot role is what's called for, it's what's delivered.

Every single member of my guild plays at least one cleric/fvs to facilliate guild raiding whenever and in whatever raid/quest we like with whatever toons we would like to play on the day.

May i suggest you find a guild that will take away the 'i'm a healer!' mindset, and replace it with 'I'm a team player'.

This is not an attempt to troll, it may help you to see things a little bit differently (perhaps)

Coit out~

Ghallanda : Coitfluff, Coitrippr, Coitfu, Coithealz, Coitburner, Coittimeh, Luciforge Son of Coit : Revelationz

First: How does this have anything to do with my comments about using Hjealer when looking for a healer? As for the BAM run, I'd tell those clerics to get lost...

Second: I actually belong to 2 very good guilds... And am fairly well known to many others... The big point here was if you are looking for a Healer, don't ask for a Hjealer...

[porq]

A true LOL moment. Hjealer in a lfm screams either laziness(not good when you're posting something that could be up for a while!) or like the OP said, "come join us for a painful experience!"

There's been a couple times I've witnessed a fighter run ahead then scream(caps lock) HJEAL MEE, or HEAL PLZ, followed by a ding.
I wouldn't touch a lfm like that with a 10 foot pole either.

[Kalari]

My favored soul the other night got finished running guildies who needed TOD flagging threw Amrath. Wasnt out of the group a hot second before a blind invite happened.. Yeah I dont hide on her because im used to people at least sending a tell asking then I can decide if I want to be bothered.

But this captain dumbarse decided to just try to blind invite me. I decline send a tell saying sorry I do not like to be blind invited. He comes back at me "Oh I thought you were good.."

Huh? Whether im good at healing or not if I didnt click your lfm to join you dont assume that im on to heal your group. The bad thing is he caused a few of my guildies headaches in raids before so he made my squelch list for that little stunt. Word to the wise just because a healer is on doesnt mean we just want to serve your groups. A polite tell is one thing but blind inviting me due to my icon will get you ignored.