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Sllyder
04-30-2010, 08:02 PM
ok, lets rate this abomination of a build. hehe

it's a pali with sorc for healing and rog for evasion and SA

I went with THF but not married to it.

I didn't bother with search cuz i choose the detect doors spell.
but gave token points to OL so perhaps with good tools i can open them for a bit.
Was trying to get UMD to 20 for the RR on items


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 10 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(4 Paladin \ 2 Rogue \ 4 Sorcerer)
Hit Points: 140
Spell Points: 365
BAB: 7\7\12
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 12
Will: 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 10)
Strength 16 16
Dexterity 15 16
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 6 6
Charisma 14 15

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 10) (Level 10)
Balance 6 7 7
Bluff 2 2 2
Concentration 2 4 4
Diplomacy 2 2 2
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 2 2 2
Heal -2 -2 -2
Hide 6 7 7
Intimidate 2 2 2
Jump 6 6 6
Listen -2 -2 -2
Move Silently 6 7 7
Open Lock 6 7 7
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1 -1
Search -1 -1 -1
Spot 2 4 4
Swim 3 3 3
Tumble 3 4 4
Use Magic Device 6 14 14

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I


Level 2 (Sorcerer)
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Mage Armor
Enhancement: Sorcerer Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CON
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I


Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Enhancement: Sorcerer Wand Mastery I


Level 7 (Sorcerer)
Spell (1): Shield
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Force I


Level 8 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: DEX
Spell (2): Repair Moderate Damage
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics II


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 10 (Paladin)
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Lesser Restoration
Spell (1): Lionheart
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Resistance
Spell (1): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (1): Virtue

ArloOne
04-30-2010, 08:05 PM
Its not fail..its EPIC FAIL!

Sllyder
04-30-2010, 08:17 PM
sweet, the threads not 5 min old and i already got an epic fail vote lol
/cry

Thudul
04-30-2010, 08:20 PM
not to much of a build opinion giver...but i gotta say...anytime you take detect secret doors as a spell when you have limited spells as a sorc does is a waste. there are MANY clickys that give you dsd.

search is a good thing to have as a rogue so that you can at least TRY to find traps/disarm them.

why the 4 lvls of sorc for healing? if you are worried about healing and NEED to multi into sorc, 1 lvl should suffice, as you will be able to use wands.

with a wisdom of 6, even with a +6 stat item, you will not get to all of your spells as a pali. you need at least a 14. not to mention you will not have many mana points.

personally, thf or twf is all personal preference. i prefer thf personally. but thats just cuz i like to see huge numbers pop up when i crit with my g-axe. :)

also, as a wf, i dont really see a very big reason to have force of personality in there. most of the will based spells you are immune to already, so not much there. i know there are a few that will still get you, but not TOO many...

*huh. actually just notcied the header. it was already described by the op as an abomination

Hobgoblin
04-30-2010, 08:22 PM
why not take the build to 20?

why are your ablity raises not in str?

dump dex go thf and watch the masses cringe

Lorien_the_First_One
04-30-2010, 08:53 PM
I can't see this build being very useful

Bacab
04-30-2010, 08:57 PM
sad to say...If you have to ask if this will work...it will not.

Zippo
04-30-2010, 09:06 PM
Its not fail..its EPIC FAIL!

No that's not exactly true. With some slight reworking and moving around of feats, etc. and you have the Tukaw build. 15/3/2 Sorc/pali/rog

which has been proven to be quite effective

Sllyder
04-30-2010, 09:43 PM
meh, i like theory crafting weird builds lol

I idea behind this was basicly a melee toon, i went with pali for the auras and imuns.

Sorc is only for the self heals, maybe a buff or two. long as i have enough sp for that i'm good

Rog is taken for SA and evasion

I knew i didn't have enough skill points to keep up the rog skills so i didn't bother.
a spell slot for detect isn't an issue cuz i'm not using the sorc for dps as i stated
spot to find them and mobs, spell to detect so i can open.

with high saves most traps aren't an issue not running shroud solo lol

wasn't interested in pali spells.

this is a solo based melle toon that can heal and has sa and evasion.

never said it would work but it's fun screwing around with lol

Angelus_dead
04-30-2010, 10:02 PM
Sorc is only for the self heals, maybe a buff or two. long as i have enough sp for that i'm good
Spending four levels of a character just for that isn't worth it, particularly because as the character level goes up those spells will stay behind. A Pal18/rog2 could self heal about as well.

It can make sense to make a pal18/rog2 character, and even sor16/pal2/rog2 is fairly popular. But taking 1-4 levels of sorc (or any main prime caster) just doesn't work, unless you were never planning to advance to higher total levels. Unless your caster level continues to raise, then a few levels of a caster class provides nothing meaningful.

Jakarr
05-01-2010, 09:29 AM
I clicked here and expected to see a 16/2/2 and I see this build



:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


:confused:


:(

Noctus
05-01-2010, 10:08 AM
The 4 Sorc levels will be dead once you are 15+.


A Paladin 18 / Rogue 2 can selfheal, too. Even much better than you can with anything below 12 levels of Sorc. And "splashing" 12 levels of Sorc just to selfheal is a decidedly bad idea.

Look into the Favored Soul class if you want to have good selfhealing in combination with melee power.