So confusing @.@

[XxLegitSaixX]

Well heres the deal...

Im an EX-WoW/EX-WAR/EX-LoTR die hard fan and I recently discovered DDO.

DDO = My new love.

But here is where i'm getting confused at.

Classes
Servers

And all my other hundreds of questions tie into those 2.

My main few questions are:

What class suits a person who wants to be a high DPS killing machine and at the same time can make a very important asset to any party [I don't care if it's bad in low-level as long as I have a non-gimped future i'm fine with it].

What the hell is multi-class, and is it useful for first timers?

What server has:
1) a lot of people
2) can find parties really fast
3) the general/trade/advice chat is active

So far I tried Ghallanda and Khyber, I see no difference between the 2 except that Khyber seems to have more of a population size then Ghallanda.

Ok, and also for the classes thing, im expecting people to just say "Depends on what you like." NO, I don't want that answer, I want a answer like "So-and-so is good with so-and-so build." The thing is, I hate starting a new char OVER and OVER. I'm a premium member [VIP for like what, 2 days? T.T] and I still don't have an idea on how to get dragon marks or even the Drow race. I'm just a clueless drifter making random char and trying to make his way to endgame. The highest level I have gotten anywhere with my char is 2/11 -.-; Im serious, I can't go past that because I have a strong feeling that i'm going to be the most useless thing later on and I get self conscious about my dmg my hp and silly things people don't care for in low levels. So i'm like a timebomb, it goes good for a while then I explode and start something new, and a major contributor to me blowing up are the forums and the comments they leave on the classes, sure not every class is perfect but I want one that fits my needs. [Listed in the start.]

Oh and the races, this ****es me off... I hate choosing between a certain race because all of them look like they could be useful later on but I don't see the benefits, it's disheartening with so many choices T.T

Well, that's about it for now, please people, throw me some suggestions and some builds.

[tunabomber]

use the search function thats what its for ;)

[Zachski]

What class suits a person who wants to be a high DPS killing machine and at the same time can make a very important asset to any party [I don't care if it's bad in low-level as long as I have a non-gimped future i'm fine with it].



It sounds like you either want a Barbarian (straight DPS, little defense, is an asset to the party by being DPS)

Or a Warchanter (a Bard that goes for the Warchanter Prestige Enhancement bit of a rough start, but has songs that help his party members, and at the same time, if built right, can be a mean DPS machine.)

Multiclassing is when you choose to level up as a different class. Like, say, if you want to become a Warchanter (18 Bard, 1 Barbarian, 1 Fighter, as an example), you take your level 1 Bard, who is ready to level up, to the Barbarian Trainer, and you ask him to train you. You'll get a warning about multi-classing, you go through all the level up stuff, and then you become a 1 Bard/1 Barbarian, but you're a level 2 (insert race here).

Honestly, which each race does have its specializations, human isn't anything to sneeze at either. In fact, I kind of think of it as "When in doubt, Human". They get an extra feat which can help out. They get Human Versatility which lets them boost a wide variety of... things for 20 seconds (things like armor class, skill checks, accuracy, and yeah).

I hate to say it, but what you are looking for is really not so well defined that it's a single class and build. Do you want to be a giant wrecking ball? Or do you want to be a smaller wrecking ball that makes all the other wrecking balls bigger? Or do you prefer magic?

[XxLegitSaixX]

I want to go for a giant wrecking ball.

[under_miner]

So then you want to be a Barbarian. I suggest Human Babarian. But other people might suggest another class. Other people might tell you that a Halfling Monk is the way to go, or a Warforged Fighter....each opinion depends on your style of play. I prefer the Human Barbarian for the very same reasons sited by Zachski. The Versatility feat lends itself to being a great DPS fighter.

[XxLegitSaixX]

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=207878

For barb I use that, but the comments seem kinda hurtful in a way.

[sigtrent]

What class suits a person who wants to be a high DPS killing machine and at the same time can make a very important asset to any party [I don't care if it's bad in low-level as long as I have a non-gimped future i'm fine with it].

<High DPS Killing Machine Classes>
Fighter
Ranger
Paladin
Barbarian
Monk
Rogue

See the thing is they are all pretty good. Go to the "Character Builds" forum to look for builds. Or hit up a specific class thread. Barbarian is the easiest. Max out Strength, take lots of Constitution and you should be good to go. Search for DPS Barbarian and you should find some builds.

The others all require a few more choices to be made as you level up.

Here is a good barbarian build (the player posting it is a bit...abrasive but its a good and straight forward build)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199947


What the hell is multi-class, and is it useful for first timers?

A DDO character has 20 levels. Each level can be a different class (although you can only take three different classes). Each level of a given class comes with certain benefits and abilities. Multi classing is the art of choosing abilities from different classes that augment one another. You don't need to do it to make end game characters, both pure class and multi class characters are good.

Until you learn the game rules, I advise you either avoid multi classing, or find a build and follow it carefully.


What server has:
1) a lot of people
2) can find parties really fast
3) the general/trade/advice chat is active

There really isn't all that much difference.

Avoid Orien as its probably a bit lower population, it was a newer server. Great if you want a fresher start, not so good for large crowds.

I think Argonesson is pretty big... not sure. I'm on Thelanis, its pretty decent compared to others. Parties are easy to find if you aren't too picky.


Oh and the races, this ****es me off... I hate choosing between a certain race because all of them look like they could be useful later on but I don't see the benefits, it's disheartening with so many choices T.T

Like most games, race isn't all that big a deal. Warforged are the most unusual and in many ways one of the best. They are immune to a number of things but they are somewhat more challenging to heal than other races. Human is a good default choice. The others all have little benefits and such but mostly its not all that important.

[Bracosius]

Much easier to stay pure if its your first character. Either Barbarian or Fighter for damage dealing. When you learn more about the game you can lesser reincarnate to fix any mistakes you may make along the way without having to re-level.

Dwarf and Warforge are both good melee races due to the constitution bonus. One of the biggest mistakes new players make is taking to low of a con score and not having enough hit points at the higher levels.

[XxLegitSaixX]

<High DPS Killing Machine Classes>
Fighter
Ranger
Paladin
Barbarian
Monk
Rogue

See the thing is they are all pretty good. Go to the "Character Builds" forum to look for builds. Or hit up a specific class thread. Barbarian is the easiest. Max out Strength, take lots of Constitution and you should be good to go. Search for DPS Barbarian and you should find some builds.

The others all require a few more choices to be made as you level up.

Here is a good barbarian build (the player posting it is a bit...abrasive but its a good and straight forward build)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199947



A DDO character has 20 levels. Each level can be a different class (although you can only take three different classes). Each level of a given class comes with certain benefits and abilities. Multi classing is the art of choosing abilities from different classes that augment one another. You don't need to do it to make end game characters, both pure class and multi class characters are good.

Until you learn the game rules, I advise you either avoid multi classing, or find a build and follow it carefully.



There really isn't all that much difference.

Avoid Orien as its probably a bit lower population, it was a newer server. Great if you want a fresher start, not so good for large crowds.

I think Argonesson is pretty big... not sure. I'm on Thelanis, its pretty decent compared to others. Parties are easy to find if you aren't too picky.



Like most games, race isn't all that big a deal. Warforged are the most unusual and in many ways one of the best. They are immune to a number of things but they are somewhat more challenging to heal than other races. Human is a good default choice. The others all have little benefits and such but mostly its not all that important.


I have read that guide before, but it seemed all too confusing for me, but I guess i'll stick to Khyber for a while.

[XxLegitSaixX]

Much easier to stay pure if its your first character. Either Barbarian or Fighter for damage dealing. When you learn more about the game you can lesser reincarnate to fix any mistakes you may make along the way without having to re-level.

Dwarf and Warforge are both good melee races due to the constitution bonus. One of the biggest mistakes new players make is taking to low of a con score and not having enough hit points at the higher levels.


Well I have tried cleric and whatnot, but so far I like Barbarian for it's immense DPS at times and it's high cons is a huge bonus, how would one go about getting a 32 point build or a 40 point build? And how would I unlock Drow/Dragonmarks?

[Noctus]

Hello and Welcome to DDO.

I always feel a bit better when a new player comes to the forums and asks for honest advice. Means one more nice Newbie, and one less no-clue Noob. :)


From how you described your preferences and your new player status, i´d recommend a pure Barbarian as your 1st character.

Shade´s build which was linked is a good way to get introduced to DDO´s melee combat. And a max STR - THF (Two Handed Fighting) Barbarian is easy to build, easy to equip (all for DPS, ignore AC once you hit the dual-digit levels) and easy to play. Once you capped this character you will be an asset to the groups you join, and will have gathered enough play experience to make an informed decision on how/if to multiclass your next character, as to tailor him to your personal playstyle preferences.


Go and roll up your Barbarian and get to know DDO´s highly involving combat.


P.S.
Here (http://ddowiki.com/page/Newbie_guide)at the DDO wiki are some guides which might interest you.

[XxLegitSaixX]

Hello and Welcome to DDO.

I always feel a bit better when a new player comes to the forums and asks for honest advice. Means one more nice Newbie, and one less no-clue Noob. :)


From how you described your preferences and your new player status, i´d recommend a pure Barbarian as your 1st character.

Shade´s build which was linked is a good way to get introduced to DDO´s melee combat. And a max STR - THF (Two Handed Fighting) Barbarian is easy to build and easy to play. Once you capped this character you will be an asset to the groups you join, and will have gathered enough play experience to make an informed decision on how/if to multiclass your next character, as to tailor him to your personal playstyle preferences.


Go and roll up your Barbarian and get to know DDO´s highly involving combat.


P.S.
Here (http://ddowiki.com/page/Newbie_guide)at the DDO wiki are some guides which might interest you.


Haha thank you, theres still a lot I need to learn.

[lazyninja81]

Well I have tried cleric and whatnot, but so far I like Barbarian for it's immense DPS at times and it's high cons is a huge bonus, how would one go about getting a 32 point build or a 40 point build? And how would I unlock Drow/Dragonmarks?

You can get drow and 32 pt builds but earning favour for completing quests or purchasing the options in the DDO Store. Like xp, you get favour when completing a quest. Harder the difficulty the higher the favour. For example, completing on normal may earn you 4 favour, on hard 6 and on elite 8. Favour for a quest does not stack. So if you complete a quest on norm and get 4 favour then go back and finish it on hard you get 6 favour not 10. You can check your total favour by hitting the 'P' hotkey to open the adventure compendium (or use the menu bar). There are a couple different tabs here, click through and explore (all self explanatory).

To access drow you need a total of 400 favour, 1750 for 32 pt builds. You can easily get enough favour for drow as a free to play (f2p) player but you'll almost certainly need to buy quest packs to get enough favour to unlock 32 pt builds. Also, one very important point, favour awards are tied to the character that earned the favour. This means that if you unlock drow by earning 400 favour with "Bob" and then delete "Bob", you will no longer have access to drow unless you have another character on the same server with 400 favour. Favour awards are also limited to servers, thus you'll have to unlock drow on each server (however, if you purchase drow in the DDO Store you'll have account wide access on all servers).

Finally dragonmarks are a type of feat that gives you access to abilities specific to your race. I believe (could be mistaken here) that you have to complete a mini in-game quest of sorts to enable dragonmarks for your character. I'd suggest searchin ddowiki.com for more info.

Hope that helps. I run a couple toons on Kyber (Arrtu or Zaephod), look me up and I'd be happy to help you out.

Welcome to DDO.

[Bracosius]

Well I have tried cleric and whatnot, but so far I like Barbarian for it's immense DPS at times and it's high cons is a huge bonus, how would one go about getting a 32 point build or a 40 point build? And how would I unlock Drow/Dragonmarks?

Drow and 32 point builds are unlocked with favor or turbine points. You can either buy it or earn it.

Currently there is not a 40 point build. You can achieve a 36 point build by True Reincarnating a level 20 character 2 times.

You initially start with 28 points assuming you do not buy 32 point builds. This is fine. Greater reincarnation allows you to re-spec an existing character and increases you to a 32 point build. Your best bet is to roll a barb and just have fun. When you get to lvl 20 analyze what you would like to change about your character and do it. Don't stress about decisions you make now, just remind yourself that you will greater reincarnate at level 20 to become a 32 point build and fix any flaws that exist.

When you start to get some gold in your bag, buy cure potions. The best you can afford. It's nice when someone heals you, but don't expect it all the time or come to rely on it.

[Mockduck]

All the servers are pretty much the same in all regards, just play on whatever server you have friends on. Really, not much difference between the servers.

[Bracosius]

All the servers are pretty much the same in all regards, just play on whatever server you have friends on. Really, not much difference between the servers.


Except that Ghallanda is the best. I mean, everyone already knows that, right?

[XxLegitSaixX]

Cool cool, thanks everyone. I'll stick with a barb till 20 and decide, and i'll try unlocking Drow incase I want to go magic later on, thanks for the help ^.^ [Khyber Permanent member]

Guys look me up on Khyber as "Buldor", i'd be glad to take anymore help and advice.

[Daliyn]

Also, one very important point, favour awards are tied to the character that earned the favour. This means that if you unlock drow by earning 400 favour with "Bob" and then delete "Bob", you will no longer have access to drow unless you have another character on the same server with 400 favour.

Is this really right? I always thought and heard that once you earned 400 favor, Drow is unlocked serverwide, and that it doesn't matter if you keep the char which earned it. On the other hand, if you buy Drow in the DDOStore, it's unlocked for the whole account, which means you can roll a Drow on every server you wish. Same goes for 32pt-builds.

In fact, if you're on a f2p-account with only 2 char slots, unlocking Drow seems not quite an advantage. Everybody wants to play more than one char, and everybody needs mules, doesn't he? :)

[Gadget2775]

Bunch of new player friendly builds here (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=147492). If it says a Kensai, Tempest or Frenzied build (and focuses on Strength over Dex) it's probably made for DPS.

If you're the reading kinda check here (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=170873) for a whole bunch of useful threads.

[moomooprincess]

Multi-class is when you combine classes together that make sense. A wizard/rogue makes sense because both rely on Intellligence. A cleric/monk because they use wisdom. Yes, you can combine other classes that don't make sense, but some of those can be atrociously bad characters.

These are my choices not anyone elses

Human - I usually make my clerics human. Paladins and Intimitanks also.

Warforged - good because of their immunities, use these for wizard/rogue, or sorceror builds. Because the arcanes can repair themselves. I do have a 13 sorceror/1st barbarian mutl-class that can get in there fast, run like heck, drop a ton of firewalls, and whip out a couple weapons to deal damage and repair myself while I cook everything.

Dwarves - excellent rangers, fighters, barbarians.

Drow - excellent bards and sorcerors because you can start their CHARISMA at 20

Halfling - Still working on them. I have seen good halflings being played, but I do not have a good grasp of the halfling and where they fit. I am working on a mutli class halfling but it is only 6th level and I am unsure of its outcome.

Servers
Cedwin - I think that is the forum name - has written an app that tells you the server populations at LOGIN.
from his data. Research for his posts on the subject
Ghallanda is the smallest population. Around 22,000 actives.
Khyber is the largest population, Cannith is the second largest population. Those two are pretty close at around 25,000 active each.

All servers have around 20,000 + active players on them. The dead times are US times 3 AM EST to 6 AM EST.

Most veteran players turn off General/Advice/Trade channels because those channels are filled with many childish posts that get to be quite burdensome.

[Kepli_Moonshadow]

Is this really right? I always thought and heard that once you earned 400 favor, Drow is unlocked serverwide, and that it doesn't matter if you keep the char which earned it. On the other hand, if you buy Drow in the DDOStore, it's unlocked for the whole account, which means you can roll a Drow on every server you wish. Same goes for 32pt-builds.

In fact, if you're on a f2p-account with only 2 char slots, unlocking Drow seems not quite an advantage. Everybody wants to play more than one char, and everybody needs mules, doesn't he? :)

This is a true statement. If you earn enough favor for Drow on "Bob", but do not talk to the NPC to officially unlock the Drow characters, and delete "Bob"- you have to start over.

If "Bob" earns the favor, talks to the NPC (Nyx in the harbor BTW), and THEN gets deleted, drow is still available on that same server.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Also, one very important point, favour awards are tied to the character that earned the favour. This means that if you unlock drow by earning 400 favour with "Bob" and then delete "Bob", you will no longer have access to drow unless you have another character on the same server with 400 favour..

This is absolutely incorrect. Once unlocked on that server it is unlocked, you are free to delete the favor char if you want.

[Ashurr]

I would have said an elven, or halifling rogue with weapon finesse and dual rapiers, but you wanted a wrecking ball.....wait until they intro Half-Orcs then roll a Barb.

[lazyninja81]

This is absolutely incorrect. Once unlocked on that server it is unlocked, you are free to delete the favor char if you want.

I stand corrected. Thanks Lorien, I've been keeping an old toon with lots of favour for no reason apparently.

[KualaBangoDango]

I stand corrected. Thanks Lorien, I've been keeping an old toon with lots of favour for no reason apparently.Just make sure you talk to any NPC's necessary to officially unlock the reward (Drow NPC for example). If you delete the character without officially unlocking the reward then you gotta redo it. This is my understanding of how it works anyway.

[tihocan]

Looks like you already got plenty of good suggestions, but just in case, I'll plug one more: the Savage of the Wild (Barbarian), Vanguard Warrior (Fighter) and Tempest (Ranger) builds from this thread (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232660) should fit your needs. The Flame of Justice (Paladin) as well, but it's not as straightforward to play (the two easiest ones are Barbarian and Fighter).

[Shumanfoo]

Yeah many suggestions here, and I just briefly scanned through the responses. I like going Dwarf for barbarian. You get a Con bonus as a dwarf as well as enhancements to axe attack and damage. Nothing like a squat muscular dwarf swinging a big nasty axe.