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Lord_Winn
04-19-2010, 10:33 AM
I never could understand why Fred charges so much gold when exchanging feats (yes you do get one feat exchange with Lockania). Also, getting those Siberys fragments take a long time.
Unrelated to this, what are the crafting devices useful for besides upgrading weapons? I could never find the recipes on using these machines. All I've been doing so far is just combining my Kyhber and Siberys fragments. Isn't there a bag to carry these imperfect shards???

Lorien_the_First_One
04-19-2010, 10:36 AM
Mind flayers are evil.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Crafting

die
04-19-2010, 10:37 AM
he uses he's mental powers on you, and if you refuse you could end up in that mouth

DoctorWhofan
04-19-2010, 10:42 AM
Because it is something to make sure you did the right thing, or the exchanging feats is the right idea. Don't complain...we didn't have it when we started. We fixed feats with a reroll ONLY.

Since you cannot have the feat respec such as 3.5 ruleset to work in a MMO evironment, they just make it difficult to do so. It shouldn't be easy, or cheap. You are "forgetting" knowledge that you had for XYZ amount of days/weeks/years and aquiring new knowledge automatically.

Anderei
04-19-2010, 10:48 AM
The gold is negletable at top level 20 its what? 500.000g? this an afternoon raiding. The issue is the flawless shard, I played this game now for 8 months and from all my toons combined all the shards combined I still did not yet make a single flawless one (only 70% there) and if you dont buy them from the DDO-Store, did you look in the AH what people are asking for these? O.O

katana_one
04-19-2010, 10:48 AM
Why does Fred charge so much? Simple economics - the law of supply and demand. Fred pretty much has a monopoly on Feat re-specs, and nobody in their right mind will try to slap an anti-trust lawsuit on a mind flayer.

Daggaz
04-19-2010, 10:49 AM
As already mentioned, Illithids are always evil. "Always" being defined by the DMG as almost entirely always, but not always, as there can be individuals of a neutral or even opposite alignment.

So Fred is actually not truly evil as an individual, but his race "always" is, and as such, he is not very welcome even in the outpost border town that is Stormreach, where hobgoblin cooks outnumber halfling courtesans three to one. Therefore, his guest pass costs a bleeding fortune. If not for his invaluable skills, he wouldn't even be offered that pass in the first place, but as it is, he can barely make ends meet, and he has a whole swimming pool full of tadpoles to feed.

In the end, it is the corrupt and greedy coinlords who are pressing Fred for your hard earned cash. So who is the real evil, here? If you have any complaints, you should take it up with them, but I recommend you come well armed, or pay for your ressurection in advance.

dunklezhan
04-19-2010, 10:49 AM
Why does Fred charge so much? Simple economics - the law of supply and demand. Fred pretty much has a monopoly on Feat re-specs, and nobody in their right mind will try to slap an anti-trust lawsuit on a mind flayer.

*guffaws*

Daggaz
04-19-2010, 10:55 AM
Why does Fred charge so much? Simple economics - the law of supply and demand. Fred pretty much has a monopoly on Feat re-specs, and nobody in their right mind will try to slap an anti-trust lawsuit on a mind flayer.

Or wouldn't they?? Dun dun dun!

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0032.html

katana_one
04-19-2010, 11:27 AM
Or wouldn't they?? Dun dun dun!

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0032.html

Pfft. That's an Intellectual Property dispute. Totally different. :P

dranreb
04-19-2010, 11:36 AM
Fred charges so much because the guy that programmed him is the same guy whose idea it was to charge 995 Turbine points for an extra bank slot.

Irinis
04-19-2010, 11:40 AM
Or wouldn't they?? Dun dun dun!

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0032.html

+1 rep for OOTS.

Maxelcat
04-19-2010, 02:26 PM
Why does Fred charge so much? Simple economics - the law of supply and demand. Fred pretty much has a monopoly on Feat re-specs, and nobody in their right mind will try to slap an anti-trust lawsuit on a mind flayer.

yup.

"excuse me, are you Mr Fred?"

"why yes I am..."

"I'm here with a Subpoen... *MINDBLAST!* ..."

Fattiest
04-19-2010, 02:30 PM
Mind flayers are evil.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Crafting

Muhahahah, yes, yes we are........................


:D

thwart
04-19-2010, 02:35 PM
I have always thought Fred was a little sad. What has the world come to when a mind flayer has to turn mental tricks just to earn some gp.

Anderei
04-19-2010, 03:05 PM
Fred charges so much because the guy that programmed him is the same guy whose idea it was to charge 995 Turbine points for an extra bank slot.

dont thing so, there is a way in the game to achieve the same (altough at high levels insane), and even if you buy the shard from the store, its relatively cheap and still requires you to aquire ingame money!

Nah the same guy would likely abolish hearts of wood, and charge 995TP for a single feat change, or wait why the logic of removing a cheaper way to achieve the same? Just charge 995TP for a feat exchange right away!

Eladiun
04-19-2010, 03:08 PM
Fred is a hermaphrodite, therefore the correct pronoun is it.

dranreb
04-19-2010, 03:28 PM
or wait why the logic of removing a cheaper way to achieve the same? Just charge 995TP for a feat exchange right away!

Stop giving them ideas. If this happens, I'm coming after you!

Lord_Winn
04-19-2010, 04:04 PM
Mind flayers are evil.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Crafting

One time, I turned in a shard and gave Fred a lot of gps that my ranger character becomes the poorest kid in the block for awhile. For that, I didn't even get the "diehard", because I just started out, was naive and have no idea what the feats until I researched it further in ddo forums these feats. Strange, Turbine Inc., game manual is so "limited" and don't mention what these feats are for. You would almost have to do outside research.

Lord_Winn
04-19-2010, 04:06 PM
One time, I turned in a shard and gave Fred a lot of gps that my ranger character becomes the poorest kid on the block for awhile. For that, I didn't even get the "diehard", because I just started out, was naive and have no idea what the feats until I researched it further in ddo forums these feats. Strange, Turbine Inc., game manual is so "limited" and don't mention what these feats are for. You would almost have to do outside research. Fred, I'm going to cut your tentacles up and eat it as sashimi!

Drakos
04-19-2010, 04:13 PM
I never could understand why Fred charges so much gold when exchanging feats (yes you do get one feat exchange with Lockania). Also, getting those Siberys fragments take a long time.
Unrelated to this, what are the crafting devices useful for besides upgrading weapons? I could never find the recipes on using these machines. All I've been doing so far is just combining my Kyhber and Siberys fragments. Isn't there a bag to carry these imperfect shards???

Look at it this way, you're not paying for the feat exchange so much as paying him NOT to eat your brain while is doing the exchange. Fred has to forgo the delicious meal, unless you are a Barbarian then it isn't much of a snack, and he is starving, haven't you noticed how thin he is.

lutherl
04-19-2010, 04:18 PM
Because he has a monopoly and can charge whatever he wants.

Think that's bad now?

Wait till he threatens to bankrupt and the Gov't of Stormreach decide he's too big to fail and pulls 356 billion gold out of our pockets to provide him with some relief. That's really gonna hurt.

Eladiun
04-19-2010, 06:25 PM
Look at it this way, you're not paying for the feat exchange so much as paying him NOT to eat your brain while is doing the exchange. Fred has to forgo the delicious meal, unless you are a Barbarian then it isn't much of a snack, and he is starving, haven't you noticed how thin he is.

It could be worse...

Illithid larvae that survive after 10 years are inserted into the brain of a sapient creature. Hosts are determined in a very specific manner. Hosts generally are humanoid creatures that are between 5 feet 4 inches and 6 feet 2 inches. The most desirable of races for hosts are Human, Drow, Elves, Githzerai, Githyanki, Grimlock, Gnoll, Goblinoid, and Orc. Upon being implanted, the larva then grows and consumes the host's brain, absorbing the host's physical form entirely and becoming sapient itself, a mature (but still young) Illithid

ivar415
04-20-2010, 01:46 AM
It could be worse...

a mature (but still young) IllithidSo basically a FOX news watcher. :p

Baddub Tish! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34)

FluffyCalico
04-20-2010, 01:51 AM
One time, I turned in a shard and gave Fred a lot of gps that my ranger character becomes the poorest kid on the block for awhile. For that, I didn't even get the "diehard", because I just started out, was naive and have no idea what the feats until I researched it further in ddo forums these feats. Strange, Turbine Inc., game manual is so "limited" and don't mention what these feats are for. You would almost have to do outside research. Fred, I'm going to cut your tentacles up and eat it as sashimi!

You are complaining about the current manual? The copy I have says that wizards get their spell points and spell DC from CON!! :eek:

Talon_Moonshadow
04-21-2010, 06:42 AM
Man! he's got five squids to feed! :D

ReaperAlexEU
04-21-2010, 06:57 AM
its the coin lords fault!

you see tax's are charged per tail for races that applies to, or per head for races without a tail (you'll note slimes got off scot free, bloomin loop hole exploiters! raise our taxes they do!)

unfortunately some bean counter decided fred's tentacles were close enough to tails so he got hit with several peoples worth of taxes!

so fred has to charge several times the real cost just to break even.

vVAnjilaVv
04-21-2010, 09:03 AM
Because Turbine is greedy and if ur already paying a million gold just for the feat service at 20, ur more inclined to buy the flawless shard u also need from the store than get it in game.

What does this have to do with imperfect shards and lower level feats changes? Well they had to rescale the whole thing.

I realize they may have needed to rescale it some due to the level cap increase...but what they did was absurd and over the top.

Lord_Winn
04-21-2010, 10:03 AM
Look at it this way, you're not paying for the feat exchange so much as paying him NOT to eat your brain while is doing the exchange. Fred has to forgo the delicious meal, unless you are a Barbarian then it isn't much of a snack, and he is starving, haven't you noticed how thin he is.

I'm always curious why the House of Jorasco, halfling's home world would sublease a space out to a hideous creature like Fred. This guy is "evil". Stay away from him.

Lord_Winn
04-21-2010, 10:06 AM
its the coin lords fault!

you see tax's are charged per tail for races that applies to, or per head for races without a tail (you'll note slimes got off scot free, bloomin loop hole exploiters! raise our taxes they do!)

unfortunately some bean counter decided fred's tentacles were close enough to tails so he got hit with several peoples worth of taxes!

so fred has to charge several times the real cost just to break even.

Instead of reforming healthcare and finance, President Obama should just reform Turbine Inc and break up Fred's monopoly. Send him back to his kind and give every player a free feat exchange at every 3 or 6 levels, no gold, no strings attached.

Lord_Winn
04-21-2010, 10:10 AM
Because he has a monopoly and can charge whatever he wants.

Think that's bad now?

Wait till he threatens to bankrupt and the Gov't of Stormreach decide he's too big to fail and pulls 356 billion gold out of our pockets to provide him with some relief. That's really gonna hurt.

Instead of reforming healthcare, the feds should be regulating Turbine Inc and Fred for antitrust violations. This guys is "evil": stay away from him. He's already sent my ranger to the poor house with that one feat exchange. And there is no unemployments checks in ddo either. Do not believe the guy!

vVAnjilaVv
04-21-2010, 10:17 AM
Instead of reforming healthcare, the feds should be regulating Turbine Inc and Fred for antitrust violations. This guys is "evil": stay away from him. He's already sent my ranger to the poor house with that one feat exchange. And there is no unemployments checks in ddo either. Do not believe the guy!

You did it now Winny...you went political. tsk, tsk

*consults the loot gods about your future pulls*

Otherworld
04-21-2010, 01:28 PM
You see, Fred has a pool under the marketplace (where else? everything's under the marketplace!). But sometimes( read: a lot of times), a lot of crystals get lost. They usually end up in the breakables we heroes tend to smash. So actually, Fred has to pay us to get his stuff back!

Who'd have thought that?

Lord_Winn
04-21-2010, 03:59 PM
You did it now Winny...you went political. tsk, tsk

*consults the loot gods about your future pulls*

Yeah, it would be nice if Fred pays a fair share of his taxes to Stormreach so they can provide us with free feat exchanges. Somebody call the Stormreach tax agency on this guy for tax evasion!