Extinct Twf Barbarian

[stormarcher]

Here it is one of the most deadly Twf Dps machine in the game.

( Similar to Shade’s Dwarven Barbarian Twf Build but with a few tweaks )

28 point build

Extinct: Chaotic Good Dwarf / Barbarian 20.

Base Stats:

Str 17

Dex 17- +6 Item 23 ( optional ) +2 tome for 25

Con 15- +2 enhance +6 item 23 base, +11 rage, +2 rage potion = 36 (endgame: +3 tome + dual madstone = 47, +2 yugoloth = 49)

Int 8 (Doesn’t Matter)

Wis 8 (If you have 32 Point Builds put 2 points in here. Will save is important later on)

Cha 6 (Not that important, altho 6 cha does mean you get helpless to cha damage from time to time. NO big deal your a barbarian eh? :) )

level 20 strength breakdown:

* 17 Base
* +5 level
* +2 Tome
* +4 Power Rage
* +8 Mighty Rage
* +4 Deathless Frenzy
* +2 Frenzy
* +2 Yugoloth Potion
* +2 Madstone
* +2 Rage Spell
* +11 Knost’s Belt + Encrusted Ring (+2 exceptional)
* +2 Barbarian Capstone
63 Sustained self buffed Strength.

Hitpoints level 20

240 - Pure Barb lvl20
20 - Heroic Durability
10 - Draconic Vitality (Gianthold Favor)
20 - Mions Legens (Toughness/Heavy Fort Hat)
30 - Greater False Life (Belt)
45 - Greensteel Item
20 - Yugoloth Potion Secret Effect
320 - 42 Con (+3 Tome - includes 140 points from rage + rage potion + yugoloth pot as this is a perma rage build)
= 705 Normal

23 - Toughness Feat

50- 5 Toughness Enhancements

= 778 Feated

(Situational Buffs)

40 - Madstone Single Con +4 (46)

40- Madstone Double Con +4 (50)

= 874 Situational Hitpoints.

Feats:

1- Two Weapon Fighting

3- Power Attack

6- Improved Two Weapon Fighting

9- Cleave

12- Toughness

15- Improved critical: Slashing

18- Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Feat choice: Feel free to do these feats in any particular order you desire. This is just the order I chose. Toughness Is not necessarily needed since you have so many hitpoints anyways how ever if you are going to be the main tank in an Epic raid it helps alot.

Feats:

* Barbarian-Damage Boost IV
* Barbarian-Sprint Boost I (Can be very Helpful get it early on)
* Barbarian-Extend Rage IV
* Barbarian-Extra Rage I
* Barbarian-Hardy Rage II
* Barbarian-Power Attack III
* Barbarian-Power Rage IV
* Barbarian-Frenzy Berserker I
* Barbarian-Frenzy Berserker II
* Barbarian-Frenzy Berserker III
* Barbarian-Toughness I
* Dwarven-Axe Attack II
* Dwarven-Axe Damage II
* Dwarven-Constitution II
* Racial Toughness IV
* Capstone-Barbarian Might

By lvl9 be sure to have:
Barbarian Damage Boost II, Barbarian Power Attack I, Barbarian Power Rage I to qualify for Frenzy Berserker I
By lvl12 be sure to have:
Barbarian Damage Boost III, Barbarian Power Attack II, Barbarian Power Rage II to qualify for Frenzy Berserker II
by lvl18 be sure to have :

Barbarian power attack III for Frenzy Berserker III

Skills:Anything you want really but here is what I went with

Jump, Spot, Tumble, Balance ( I also did a little intimidate until level 4 but I regret this.)

Barbarians have the most sustained Dps in the game. Berserkers can’t be matched by any other class. (Unless rogues had % 100 sneak attack and were always hasted and mobs had around 10 ac and no fort.. then Rogue’s would do more Dps)

Good luck on this build and the once I reach a higher level on this toon I will try to post some videos )
P.S ( I will Start playing on this character through out the week I just rolled it the other day and have been to busy to play )

This is my first ever thread so please give me advice dont bash. Thanks :)

Any comments and Feedback is appreciated!

[Jendrak]

Why are all you stats in the beginning odd numbers?

As a barb I would drop to maybe a 14 dex go max str and then the res into con.

[stormarcher]

Why are all you stats in the beginning odd numbers? As a barb I would drop to maybe a 14 dex go max str and then the res into con.
They are odd numbers due too 28 point build, and other reasons. New player friendly. Also I noticed that and corrected it.
The Reason for 17 Dex is For GTWF.
Now if you have a +2 Dex tome then drop it to 15 and raise con

[ruddyheck]

sorry to hijack a little but lets say i wanna hijack this build for a human barb is sats of

str 18
dex 14
con 14
int 8
wis 8
char 8

viable? or not? new to thisgame and uber over my head

[sigtrent]

Critique: I don't think cleave does much for a TWF character. (silly me its a pre-requisite for Frenzied)

As to claims...
While I don't know the numbers I think a WF with kopesh could out damage a dwarf with axes, but who cares, its still a **** ton of DPS either way.

[Baahb3]

sorry to hijack a little but lets say i wanna hijack this build for a human barb is sats of

str 18
dex 14
con 14
int 8
wis 8
char 8

viable? or not? new to thisgame and uber over my head

You need a dex of 15 to get Two Weapon Fighting (TWF) and 17 dex to get ITWF or GTWF so if you go with the stats above know that you will not be able to take TWF until you gobble a +1 tome and the other two feats until you eat a +3 tome.

[stormarcher]

You need a dex of 15 to get Two Weapon Fighting (TWF) and 17 dex to get ITWF or GTWF so if you go with the stats above know that you will not be able to take TWF until you gobble a +1 tome and the other two feats until you eat a +3 tome.

GTWF takes 17 Dex.. and to the cleave thing it is a pre-req to get berserker. with out cleave you cant become a true barbarian

[stormarcher]

sorry to hijack a little but lets say i wanna hijack this build for a human barb is sats of

str 18
dex 14
con 14
int 8
wis 8
char 8

viable? or not? new to thisgame and uber over my head
Are you going for Twf or Thf?

[sigtrent]

GTWF takes 17 Dex.. and to the cleave thing it is a pre-req to get berserker. with out cleave you cant become a true barbarian

Ahhhh that makes sense, I was wondering why I kept seeing it on TWF builds, should have guessed... I don't make a lot of barbarians... just not my kind of class due to the rage cutting off access to a lot of action types.

[spifflove]

Ahhhh that makes sense, I was wondering why I kept seeing it on TWF builds, should have guessed... I don't make a lot of barbarians... just not my kind of class due to the rage cutting off access to a lot of action types.

You havent lived until you have seen fb in action old man;)

[Sweyn]

Critique: I don't think cleave does much for a TWF character. (silly me its a pre-requisite for Frenzied)

As to claims...
While I don't know the numbers I think a WF with kopesh could out damage a dwarf with axes, but who cares, its still a **** ton of DPS either way.

Cleave is reqeired for Frenzied Berserker

[stormarcher]

Cleave is reqeired for Frenzied Berserker

Correct

[Kargraz]

Hmm... Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't ITWF require 6+ bab?

[Bacab]

Hmm... Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't ITWF require 6+ bab?

yes...move Power attack to lvl 3 and ITWF to 6

[Saint21]

Unless I miss read, couldnt you add Barb Con and Dwarf Con and save yourself 2 AP? Or, does that not stack?

[Kargraz]

yes...move Power attack to lvl 3 and ITWF to 6

No, you need to move ITWF to 9, since you need cleave for frenzied berserker at 6

[stormarcher]

Critique:
While I don't know the numbers I think a WF with kopesh could out damage a dwarf with axes, but who cares, its still a **** ton of DPS either way.

Check out one of my two other builds they both use Khopesh and out Dps this guy:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=2912076#post2912076

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=2951142#post2951142

[Nezichiend]

18 base str is a must.
go down to 15 starting dex.
rest into con.

Human is a better option since you can do feats like this:
Cleave, Power Attack, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, Toughness, Stunning Blow, IC:Slash/Pierce.
You should drop IC:Slash/Pierce when you get MinIIs

You could do heavy pick, since things get stunned on this build the *4 > *3 from khop. Also fb crits are only on 19-20 so on a khopesh you get 17-18*3, 19-20*6, while on heavy pick you get 19-20*7.

[xEthreal]

This build is best used with Dwarven axes regardless of being a dwarf or not.

Reasons:
19-20 crit range for FB
Higher base damage than khopeshes
Alot higher base than picks.

Those make Dwarven axes superior for thsi build in my opinion.

[stormarcher]

This build is best used with Dwarven axes regardless of being a dwarf or not.

Reasons:
19-20 crit range for FB
Higher base damage than khopeshes
Alot higher base than picks.

Those make Dwarven axes superior for thsi build in my opinion.

Precisely

[BlackSteel]

This build is best used with Dwarven axes regardless of being a dwarf or not.

Reasons:
19-20 crit range for FB
Higher base damage than khopeshes
Alot higher base than picks.

Those make Dwarven axes superior for thsi build in my opinion.

except your a barbarian, and not a fighter. Theres no need to limit yourself to one specific weapon. picks could easily be your trash mob weapon, between stunning blow and a competent caster most thing should be in autocrit status. And you can easily switch to dwarven min 2's for the rare pit fiend.

plus you get to use deathnips, which as with the SoS, its the best weapon to have agaisnt anything crittable that does not have DR.

[Consumer]

plus you get to use deathnips, which as with the SoS, its the best weapon to have agaisnt anything crittable that does not have DR.

Not true, lit II picks are far better DPS. Even one offhand deathnip reduces DPS because you lose so much elemental damage just for 2 extra threat range (with IC pierce) which the FB *3 multiplier does not apply to. The only advantage is that you do not have to have seeker on your equipment anymore.

You could then combine litany, epic red scale docent and tharnes to provide more DPS from your armour slots.

[BlackSteel]

Not true, lit II picks are far better DPS. Even one offhand deathnip reduces DPS because you lose so much elemental damage just for 2 extra threat range (with IC pierce) which the FB *3 multiplier does not apply to. The only advantage is that you do not have to have seeker on your equipment anymore.

You could then combine litany, epic red scale docent and tharnes to provide more DPS from your armour slots.

true enough

[stormarcher]

Not true, lit II picks are far better DPS. Even one offhand deathnip reduces DPS because you lose so much elemental damage just for 2 extra threat range (with IC pierce) which the FB *3 multiplier does not apply to. The only advantage is that you do not have to have seeker on your equipment anymore.

You could then combine litany, epic red scale docent and tharnes to provide more DPS from your armour slots.


Min II dwarven axes surpass lit II picks on this build.

He is a dwarven barbarian and they get dwarven axe enhancements making it stronger and higher dps then lit II picks.

[Consumer]

Min II dwarven axes surpass lit II picks on this build.

He is a dwarven barbarian and they get dwarven axe enhancements making it stronger and higher dps then lit II picks.

You obviously do not see why picks are useful, as was stated earlier picks are far better weapons for clearing epic trash and mobs that can be put into an autocrit state. I don't know what kind of casters you run with or melee for that matter but those with high enough DCs should be stunning mobs. 2 damage from DA enhancements cannot equal an extra crit multiplier on stunned or held targets.

The idea here being that you use picks on trash and switch to DA when facing a mob like Harry where the higher base damage actually makes a difference.

[Krag]

Not true, lit II picks are far better DPS. Even one offhand deathnip reduces DPS because you lose so much elemental damage just for 2 extra threat range (with IC pierce) which the FB *3 multiplier does not apply to. The only advantage is that you do not have to have seeker on your equipment anymore.

You could then combine litany, epic red scale docent and tharnes to provide more DPS from your armour slots.

Precisely. You can have same Seeker +8 as Epic Bloodstone and still deal some decent damage with this weapon.

[stormarcher]

s.
The idea here being that you use picks on trash and switch to DA when facing a mob like Harry where the higher base damage actually makes a difference.

Misread, Thought you meant use picks at all times