from caster to melee. Is this a viable build?

[kadens]

hi folks,

i have a capped human caster/evoker FvS that i am thinking of rebuilding (reincarnating) to the following. Can i get comments on the viability. Looking to heal mostly and get in when i can with melee in elites/epics.


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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Favored Soul)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 2020
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 15
Will: 12

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 22
Dexterity 15 17
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 10 10
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 14 20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Nightshield


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Spell (1): Shield of Faith


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Spell (2): Resist Energy


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Remove Curse


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (5): True Seeing


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (6): Heal


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Spell (7): Mass Restoration


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Spell (8): Death Pact


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (9): Mass Heal


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (9): True Resurrection


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Enhancement: Favored Soul Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendancy: Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

[Xithos]

Going for the full TWF feat line on a non-splash favored soul looks a little too ambitious even if you are Human and don't wield an exotic. The biggest weakness IMO of this build is the lack of the quicken metamagic. Without quicken you won't be able to heal something like an epic demon queen reliably because no one can take 150 points of efreeti fireball damage and make a concentration check. Furthermore, your mass cures might not have enough "Oomph" with only empowered healing and no maximize. Finally, I think 14 starting charisma is a little too high on a melee-soul.

[Mellkor]

Also, I think your HP are low for epics. I suggest you try and break the 500 barrier in that regard If you have to lower dex a little and certainly lower CHA to an 11 or 12 and bump up CON instead. If you only want to help out melee every now and again, the best thing you can do IMO, with this build, is get yourself 2 tenderizers (for the +5, 5% weighted). Just use them without any TWF feats, you will be fine fully buffed. That way you can really help with the stuns and do ok dam while they are stunned. Quicken is essential!

[BLAKROC]

if your not taking extend till lvl 18 do you really need it ?

otwf is not really necessary, yes it's nice but you can do without it.


quicken is a must, that way you want auto attack and use cures as needed


i never use mass cure critical on any of my clerics or fvs. worst heal to sp ratio of them all.


i have a similiar fvs, but is elf so one less feat i didnt' take gtwf but works out okay.


gl

[Impatiens]

Also, I think your HP are low for epics. I suggest you try and break the 500 barrier in that regard If you have to lower dex a little and certainly lower CHA to an 11 or 12 and bump up CON instead. If you only want to help out melee every now and again, the best thing you can do IMO, with this build, is get yourself 2 tenderizers (for the +5, 5% weighted). Just use them without any TWF feats, you will be fine fully buffed. That way you can really help with the stuns and do ok dam while they are stunned. Quicken is essential!


500, really? I do epics all the time on my FVS with 417 hit points and do fine. Granted she is a monk splash so has evasion, but I think as long as people are over the 400 mark with their gear there really shouldn't be much of a problem.

I do agree that Quicken is absolutely necessary.

[Impaqt]

Going for the full TWF feat line on a non-splash favored soul looks a little too ambitious even if you are Human and don't wield an exotic. The biggest weakness IMO of this build is the lack of the quicken metamagic. Without quicken you won't be able to heal something like an epic demon queen reliably because no one can take 150 points of efreeti fireball damage and make a concentration check. Furthermore, your mass cures might not have enough "Oomph" with only empowered healing and no maximize. Finally, I think 14 starting charisma is a little too high on a melee-soul.

Solid Advice.


Also, I think your HP are low for epics. I suggest you try and break the 500 barrier in that regard If you have to lower dex a little and certainly lower CHA to an 11 or 12 and bump up CON instead. If you only want to help out melee every now and again, the best thing you can do IMO, with this build, is get yourself 2 tenderizers (for the +5, 5% weighted). Just use them without any TWF feats, you will be fine fully buffed. That way you can really help with the stuns and do ok dam while they are stunned. Quicken is essential!

1 or 2 points of CON is not critical. I always question people who recommend putting more points into COn to hit a "Critical" HP Theashold. The Most your going to se ein most cases is 20 more hit points... Hardly important when your looking at a Build capable of well over 400 as it stands.. Character planner HP's dont take into account Draconic Vitality, +6 Con Item, Minos, SHroud HP Items, GFL/SFL, +2/+3 Exceptional CON, Rage Pots/Spells, etc etc etc.....

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as for the build..

OTWF is rarely needed, I personally find PA of marginal value in Epic on builds that are not Melee Focused. you often have to turn it off in order to increase your TO hit enough.

[kadens]

thanx. so inm a nut shell im seeing "remove OTWF and improved crit" feats. stick in quicken and maxmise. Use min II weapons.

[Mellkor]

I was going by what he posted. I never assume anything. I still reccomend breaking 500 HP if what you want to do is epics. however he gets there.

[unbongwah]

- Normally I would say dump-stat INT, but I can't decide where to put those extra points. Don't really need extra DEX - WIS maybe?
- I would drop OTWF for another metamagic like Maximize, Heighten, or Quicken. Can't decide if PA or another metamagic is more useful.
- Most folks will tell you to get Blade Barrier, even with WIS as a dump stat. However, when you say "capped," I presume you mean you're Lesser Reincarnating a lvl 20 FvS, yes? If so, I don't know if BB is still useful at endgame with your WIS & feats.

Otherwise looks like a fairly solid buffer / healer melee FvS.