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Rexmundis
04-12-2010, 09:40 PM
I know normally you should get damage first for WF barbs. But I was wondering if it was possible to swap out feats later on in your character's life or if it's set in stone (you need lesser wood to respec). If so... wouldn't it be better to get adamantine body at lev 3 barb and not Power attack (seeing how you'll probably miss so often due to the -5 to hit that the extra damage won't matter)
I have 2 Barbs Im working on (more like messing around with), the one with Adamantine body JUST WONT DIE, I'm doing many elite quests solo. But the one with power attack is getting KILLED a lot. They are the exact same stat/build short of the changes in lev 3 feats.
Anyhow is it possible to swap out feats later on? If so how?
Lehrman
04-12-2010, 09:43 PM
You can swap feat outs every 3 days. you need an appopraite level sib dragon shard and some plat. (If you find lockania in the market you can do her quest for a single free feat respec)
BTW you can not be unproficient with your own body, so you can use the Adamantine body feat without getting -hitroll on a barbarian. At least, I am 99% sure this is the case.
Rexmundis
04-12-2010, 09:51 PM
You can swap feat outs every 3 days. you need an appopraite level sib dragon shard and some plat. (If you find lockania in the market you can do her quest for a single free feat respec)
BTW you can not be unproficient with your own body, so you can use the Adamantine body feat without getting -hitroll on a barbarian. At least, I am 99% sure this is the case.
Yeh, this is true, and my dex is like 11 and I don't see getting anything thats going to boost my dex 4 points anytime between now and level 10. So... who else thinks this is a good idea? Adamantine Body as level 3 barb feat? Or still get powerattack?
Freeman
04-12-2010, 09:54 PM
Yeh, this is true, and my dex is like 11 and I don't see getting anything thats going to boost my dex 4 points anytime between now and level 10. So... who else thinks this is a good idea? Adamantine Body as level 3 barb feat? Or still get powerattack?
AC can be very useful at low levels, even for a barbarian, while Power Attack really hurts at lower levels. I'd say go ahead and take the body feat, then switch it out using the free feat exchange around levels 6-8. Your AC won't be helping much after that, but Power Attack becomes much more viable.
Rexmundis
04-12-2010, 10:33 PM
DO NOT GET ADAMANTINE BODY AS BARB... DO NOT NOT NOT. Apparently, it counts as heavy armor I compared attack rates and its like a difference of 6 between non-ada WF and adamantine WF. It's stupid. Just get power attack. NEVER get Adamantine body as Barb at ANY LEVEL.
Noctus
04-13-2010, 11:55 AM
DO NOT GET ADAMANTINE BODY AS BARB... DO NOT NOT NOT. Apparently, it counts as heavy armor I compared attack rates and its like a difference of 6 between non-ada WF and adamantine WF. It's stupid. Just get power attack. NEVER get Adamantine body as Barb at ANY LEVEL.
This is very bad advice for several reasons.
1st:
The Body-Feats are not armors, and thus require no armor proficiency.
2nd:
The armors do not influence your "attack rates"- The poster here most probably confused to-hit with armor check penalty, which influences only some skills.
3rd:
Power Attack in the low levels is a bad idea! For most characters and most enemys you actually will lower your damage dealt because you will miss more damage due to missed swings that the raised damage of those swings actually connecting.
4th:
Adamantine Body in the low levels is a very good feat for a Warforged Barbarian. It significantly lowers the amount of hits you take and lowers the damage of those hits that got you. There the AC even a Barbarian can reach is still meaningful.
In conclusion:
For a Warforged Barbarian it is an excellent strategy to take Adamantine Body as his level 1 feat, and then swap it out around level 7 or 8 against Power Attack.
ArichValtrahn
04-13-2010, 12:00 PM
For a Warforged Barbarian it is an excellent strategy to take Adamantine Body as his level 1 feat, and then swap it out around level 7 or 8 against Power Attack.
This is good advice. Personally, on my WF Barb, I skipped adamantine and didnt really have a problem. Just keep in mind you are very healer dependent with this build. Getting an arcane in your group to pack repair spells is helpful. Get ready for some very whiney clerics as well.
I found I couldnt use Power Attack until level 8 and that was only due to a +5 Flaming Greatsword that I had found with a higher level character.
Belwaar
04-13-2010, 12:06 PM
I took Power Attack on my WF Barb at low levels (forgot which one specifically), and never had a problem. But then again, I always have Heroism pots (until I get my Gird) and other pots/abilities that help with attack/damage.
I personally think it's pretty cool to crit for 100+ damage on a level 4 barbarian with a Starter Great Axe :)
tihocan
04-13-2010, 12:09 PM
Yes, for a new player it's good to start with adamantine body then swap it out later. Just try to avoid using your free feat swap token for this. Experienced players can usually afford the cost of potions to keep heals and buffs for PA, but adamantine body can be quite helpful without those.
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