Where do you get tomes?

[MaxTesla]

Where do you get tomes?

These tomes that give extra stats

And how many per stat can you use?

[r3dl4nce]

You get tomes from quests or ddo store
+1 tomes -quest level 8 or more / or ddo store
+2 tomes quest level 16 or more / or ddo store
+3 tomes in raid chest / 20th completion reward from reaver fate raid and more
+4 tomes in Tower of Despair Raid end chest / 20th completion reward

You can use how many tomes you want, they don't stack, only the higher is applied, so if you use a int tome +1 and int tome +2, you get a total of +2

[atkbeast]

For those with money to burn or lots of Turbine Points, tomes can be acquired from the store. In game tomes can be found in chests and as end rewards with raids having a higher percentage of drops in my experience. Tempest spine is one quest where i have pulled many of my +1 tomes. I've seen +2 tomes in the VON and Titan raids as well as in some of the higher level explorer areas. As far as I know +3 and +4 tomes are raid rewards only.

In DDO tomes do not stack. If you use 2 +1 strength tomes you only get a +1 bonus. Also only the highest value tome used will take affect. Example my wizard used his +2 1750 tome for Intelligence to get to go from 31 to 33, but when he got his +3 tome from the Reaver raid his Int only went from 33 to 34, getting only the +1 difference between the tomes.

[MaxTesla]

Thanks for the replies ;)

[Mr_Ed7]

Got mine at TOME-MART, they have the best deals.

[Grecan]

<snip> my wizard used his +2 1750 tome for Intelligence <snip>

To make it clear, one more way to get a tome is reach 1750 total favor.
Then you can choose to have a +2 tome for any stat.

[strifeexcalibur]

How about using multiple tomes, not stacking them, like a +2 DEX tome then a +2 INT tome?

[ReaperAlexEU]

just to clarify:

the tomes on the store were added years after the game was released, so you are not expected to buy them to gear up your character.

this means the supreme tome is only a short cut to get all your stats boosted, you can use one of each regular tome to boost all the stats you fancy.

also note that the reward for getting 1750 favour is a +2 tome of your choice for any character getting 1750 favour and 32 point builds being unlocked on that server.

you can get 1750 favour at lvl16 as we did when that was the level cap. however the exp will be coming in fast and most players will probably hit lvl20 before they get 1750 favour unless they make a specific point to get the favour. it does however mean every character can plan on having one +2 tome of their choice.

[Sleepsalot]

Yes that works fine it is just the same type tome that doesn't stack..

Sleeps:D:):D


How about using multiple tomes, not stacking them, like a +2 DEX tome then a +2 INT tome?

[Cendaer]

Since no one else has, I will be the one to issue the warning:

The game will allow you to apply the same type of tome endlessly and will NOT warn you that you that you've already used one.

Example:
If you apply a +1 Strength tome, you can continue to apply +1 Strength tomes, but any you apply after the first, will have no effect.

If you can't remember which tomes you've already used, that information is on your character sheet (although it's not obvious).

Hover your mouse over one of the ability scores on your character sheet, and you will get a little pop-up window with the breakdown of your ability score. In that little pop-up window, anything listed as an "Inherent" bonus is a tome bonus. Use that information for checking ability scores to which you've already applied tomes.

Watch what you eat!

[LordMond63]

If you can catch the +2 Tome of Supreme Ability, which adds +2 to ALL stats, on sale in the DDO store, I think that's the best way to go. I believe I bought several for either 1796 or maybe 1996 TPs. For comparison sake, buying six +2 tomes in the AH would cost, on Orien, around 2 million plat. Doubtlessly, it cost much less real money to earn the 2 million plat and buy the six tomes, but I think it would take you far more hours of grinding in game to earn the plat than grinding in real life for the cash to buy the TP.

Note that there is a +1 Supreme Tome available in the AH as well and for slightly more than half the price.

In game, pretty much any quest level 8 or higher can have +1 tomes drop either in chests or as an end reward. In my experience, they become a bit less rare by the time you hit Gianthold (level 12ish). I have never gotten a +2 Tome from any quest below level 16 or so and get them most frequently- if you want to call it that- from Vale quest end rewards.

[Quetzacoala]

So I've been reading this, and even though I have multiple toons over level 10, including a level 18, I have never pulled a tome, +1 or otherwise. Why is this? Just bad luck?

[Barashkukor]

So I've been reading this, and even though I have multiple toons over level 10, including a level 18, I have never pulled a tome, +1 or otherwise. Why is this? Just bad luck?

Seems like it - I've gotten a complete set of +2 tomes dropped for me in roughly 3 months (most from quest reward lists in Amrath), and 4 different +1 tomes while levelling.

Or, maybe I've had leprechauns massaging me while I sleep.

[Schmoe]

So I've been reading this, and even though I have multiple toons over level 10, including a level 18, I have never pulled a tome, +1 or otherwise. Why is this? Just bad luck?

Yes, bad luck. My characters each pulled at least one, maybe two, +1 tomes prior to level 10. It seems that there is a decent chance to have pulled at least one +2 tome by the time you reach level 20.

[ReaperAlexEU]

So I've been reading this, and even though I have multiple toons over level 10, including a level 18, I have never pulled a tome, +1 or otherwise. Why is this? Just bad luck?

i'd say lvl10 or below will be very rare. when you get more chars above lvl10 working in the gianthold and vale quests then you should start to find a few tomes. its based purely on the level of the quest, the higher the level the more chance of getting some sort of tome.

[Gkar]

1) Take the Craft Wonderous Item Feat
2) Learn/memorize with the Wish spell or Miracle spell
3) Buy the materials (6250gp for a +5)
4) Craft the item (it will cost you 25,500 xp for a +5)

[LordMond63]

So I've been reading this, and even though I have multiple toons over level 10, including a level 18, I have never pulled a tome, +1 or otherwise. Why is this? Just bad luck?

Yeah I'd have to put that down to a run of plain old bad luck.

[Maxallu]

Auction House brudda, and trade chat.

[Quetzacoala]

Well... about an hour after I posted how I had never looted a tome of any kind, I gotta +2 Constitution tome as an end reward. Maybe my fortunes are starting to improve :D

[Seikojin]

If you have the greater mark of finding, you can find stat tomes in the relevant levelled raids pretty quickly.

[Deanarth]

Something not mentioned is that if you TR you lose tomes applied to your character, but not if you LR.

[Zarquine]

It looks like the drop rate (for +1 tomes at least) has increased and I pulled different +1 tomes from rare encounters in Demon Sands.

[Frotz]

First time I ever ran Spawn of Whisperdoom I was offered a variety of +1 Tomes as end rewards, so I highly recommend farming that quest for Tomes! :) (Not really.)

[LifeLine1620]

Hover your mouse over one of the ability scores on your character sheet, and you will get a little pop-up window with the breakdown of your ability score. In that little pop-up window, anything listed as an "Inherent" bonus is a tome bonus. Use that information for checking ability scores to which you've already applied tomes.

Watch what you eat!

Please feather it in for the new guy. I am a LvL 7 AA Ranger. I just got a rare upgrade tome of constitution +4 to +5. My stat is Con 14 +2. I bought a +2 to +3 and a +3 to +4 ie. (not knowing how to use them). I have tried them all by double clicking them. They all failed saying I don't have an inherent upgrade. I did read the tome info. I understand it says I have to have an inherent upgrade +2 to +3, I do so what am I not getting or using right? Thank you

[Kynestra]

Please feather it in for the new guy.

In order to use a +2 to +3 upgrade, you need to have used a +2 to start with. Each tome gives an inherent bonus to the stat, which can be seen on your Feats list on character sheet. So, you can use a +2 or +3 etc, but in order to use an upgrade you need to have the initial bonus; a +3 to +4 upgrade needs a +3 inherent bonus to start with. In your particular situation, you would need a +1 tome and an upgrade +1 to +2, or simply a +2 tome to start with, which can be gotten from total faction favor on your server.

[Nebless]

My stat is Con 14 +2. I bought a +2 to +3 and a +3 to +4 ie. I have tried them all by double clicking them. They all failed saying I don't have an inherent upgrade.

What is your +2 in CON from? Equipment, Jewels, ?. The Tomes don't work off what ever your pluses are to stats which can come from equipment etc...., but off of each previous Tome. If your +2 wasn't from a Tome, than you first need to use a +1 Tome to get the ball rolling. Once you've applied a +1 Tome, than the +2, 3 etc... will work.

[Arkat]

9-year-old thread necro. Outstanding! :rolleyes:

[PsychoBlonde]

9-year-old thread necro. Outstanding! :rolleyes:

My eyes about crossed when I saw someone say that your tomes go away if you TR. That's ancient history!

[Arianrhod]

As someone who doesn't buy tomes from the DDO store, most of mine have come from anniversary event giveaways and the like. I've looted a few over the years, but never anything higher than a +1 or +2. I'd say, for anyone not inclined to buy tomes from the store, best to stick to builds that don't require them (i.e., put enough creation/levelup points into the appropriate stats to qualify for whatever feats you'll need without relying on tomes to get there.

[cdbd3rd]

9-year-old thread necro. Outstanding! :rolleyes:

In this particular case, the poster is not intentionally trying to make extra Cordo-work like some necros seem to be. It probably should have been it's own thread for the question, but we're here now, so...


Please feather it in for the new guy. I am a LvL 7 AA Ranger. I just got a rare upgrade tome of constitution +4 to +5. My stat is Con 14 +2. I bought a +2 to +3 and a +3 to +4 ie. (not knowing how to use them). I have tried them all by double clicking them. They all failed saying I don't have an inherent upgrade. I did read the tome info. I understand it says I have to have an inherent upgrade +2 to +3, I do so what am I not getting or using right? Thank you

If I'm understanding you right by what you posted, you seem to be looking at the +2 hp you get for the 14 Con. That is not what the Tome applies to. That is just what benefit you're getting from that score of 14.

I'm going to guess that CS won't help in this case, tho it would be nice if they'd refund the two upgrades so you could buy a straight +4 tome.
(Not going to get into the opinions of whether one should or shouldn't buy them. Just trying to help the poster out from where they're at currently.)

So, with those upgrades already purchased, I suggest one of two options:

1) Buy a straight +2 Con Tome, which will start you up the ladder of using those upgrades.

OR

2) Hold those upgrade tomes and work your favor up to 1750 and get the reward +2 tome for that.
(Wiki page on favor, scroll down to the bottom under "Total Favor") https://ddowiki.com/page/Favor_Rewards

edit, option 2a) Watch Auction House / Shard Exchange for a +2 Con tome.


Also note, as others have pointed out, info posted on earlier dates in this thread is outdated and incorrect. Most notably, when you eat a Tome, it's yours forever. NOT lost on TRs.

3rd edit, last edit I promise: LifeLine, what server are you on?

[jskinner937]

Where do you get tomes?

These tomes that give extra stats

And how many per stat can you use?

You must kneel and pray to the Gods every hour for a month straight.

[RAFAR]

Please feather it in for the new guy. I am a LvL 7 AA Ranger. I just got a rare upgrade tome of constitution +4 to +5. My stat is Con 14 +2. I bought a +2 to +3 and a +3 to +4 ie. (not knowing how to use them). I have tried them all by double clicking them. They all failed saying I don't have an inherent upgrade. I did read the tome info. I understand it says I have to have an inherent upgrade +2 to +3, I do so what am I not getting or using right? Thank you

Understanding so many numbers on the character sheet can be confusing, so here's a pic with some explanation.

https://i.postimg.cc/tZznXCvS/tomevsabilitybonus.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tZznXCvS)

Mouseover for a stat gives this pop-up window that has details about what numbers make that stat together.

<1> points to the "ability bonus" of the stat, which is not the tome bonus, but the effective bonus the stat gives: CON's ability bonus applies to Fortitude saving throws (+1 per bonus), the Concentration skill (also +1/bonus), and +1 hit point per con bonus per character level. (This last one means that as my CON ability bonus is +16, and my level is 19+1+5=25, I gain 16x25=400 hit points just from con; that's why constitution is never a dump stat for any character.)

<2> points to the "inherent" bonus that ability tomes apply to stats, these increase the ability score's total, permanently. Even through TR.

Inherent bonuses, as most other named bonuses in the game, do not stack. With other words, only the highest value applies.


In your case, that 14+2 means your constitution ability score is 14, therefore it's ability bonus is +2***. If on the mouse-over window you can not see "inherent bonus" then you haven't applied any tomes yet. Your best solution atm is to get 1750 favor and choose the constitution one from the free +2 tome of your choice from Nyx in Harbor, then apply the upgrades to +3 and +4.


Another way to check if you have tomes is Feats tab on character sheet, "special feats".
https://i.postimg.cc/YG7mKmRL/stattomecheck.jpg (https://postimg.cc/YG7mKmRL)


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Ability score is the sum of all base, items, enhancements etc, the biggest number.
Ability bonus is the +X value, that is (ability score-10)/2.

But why is that 10?

In the original, pen and paper DnD, an ability score of 10 is considered average, mostly for roleplaying purposes. At creation, all characters have below average stats (all 8, +- racial modifiers), but get a number of ability points to spend on stats of their choice, these will increase his abilities to or beyond average.

Higher values grant positive bonuses to the adventurer - a character with a strength of 16-18 was considered very strong, muscular, trained, who can effortlessly throw tables in the pub, lift heavy weights and hit as a truck. And those +1-s he could get every four levels is the result of constant exercise and adventuring.

Similarly, a character with stats below average (under 10) had penalties (negative ability bonus). For example, Halflings start with -2 str due to their small stature - this means that an average halfling would have a strength of 8, while an average human peasant would have 10 - clearly, an average halfling can lift less weight than a human, no?

Therefore, stat increasing items were very rare and powerful indeed.


As DDO's stats can now increase over 100, these pumped characters would be beyond godlike compared to the original pnp characters.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

My sheer guess is that Daily Dice could give tomes, too.
I vaguely remember getting one that way, but I'm not sure anymore.

[rabidfox]

My sheer guess is that Daily Dice could give tomes, too.
I vaguely remember getting one that way, but I'm not sure anymore.

I've got some alts across servers that are just used for grabbing weekly rolls (in case I ever actually play on that server) and I've gotten some +5 tomes on them from the dice (I assume other tomes are also possible with RNG).