Rocka Red Emma - Zerging off Again [Human FVS 18/FTR1/BRB1]

[Anthios888]

Disclaimer: I do not recommend copying this exact build. I posted this to share my excitement over my TR, and open up about my philosophy about the possibilities for a melee healer. Following this post are other builds that would be more ideal for players who do not grind as much, who have never played a battlecleric, or who are concerned about long-term game changes. By multiclassing into barbarian, I'm giving up some nice things (like evasion) for aesthetics, increased DPS and a "feel" that I cannot get any other way.


Rocka Red Emma (34 pt.)

People on the forums generally know me for my intimitank or my monk or my battlebard. But, behind the building, Rocka (Dwarf 18 cleric/2 fighter greataxe build) is my personal favorite to play. This is one of the first builds I have ever done that I would not recommend to anyone but myself. I love being a cleric and swinging a big ass weapon. I love being able to put out real DPS numbers -- not some half-assed roleplay heavy mace garbage -- while keeping the party up. I'm not a one-trick deal with only blade barrier or monk ac or whatever. When I want to get the quest done, I play Rocka.

The way it works is mana regeneration. The more I'm hit, the more I can heal. I use DR to help offset the incoming damage to keep a healthy incoming damage / outgoing mana ratio. An added bonus to this style is that I'm a guard-a-holic and my screen lights up like Christmas every time something swings at me.

This wouldn't work if I wasn't durable. Blade barriers can pull a lot of aggro. When I rolled her up, that used to mean dwarf was the only option, but since mod 9, Racial Toughness enhancements opened up the field. In fact, as a favored soul with human con enhancements, this character will be looking at very similar HP to what I'm sitting on now (which is around 600 buffed up).

Rocka was conceived in an age where I was afraid to join many groups lest I they find out I was a battlecleric. Every other post on the DDO forums was about how battleclerics were wasting their time meleeing. They couldn't hit. They didn't have enough hit points. They were communists and hippies and deranged little buggers. The name "Red Emma" comes from Emma Goldman, an Anarchist and feminist in the early 20th century. My insecurity drove me to min-max: my to-hit could hardly be higher. 18 str + level-ups. Dwarven axe attack. Destruction armor. Sundering ooze guard. Overkill can be a lot of fun, and it certainly came in handy for epic.

The following build is taking my battlecleric ideas to the extreme, and matching it with the playstyle I have developed as a zerger and healer. Practice has taught me that the faster you move and react, the faster you can heal. Practice has also taught me that the faster you kill them, the less damage they do to your party.

Why would you make a favored soul without using favored weapons (especially with scimitars and rapiers available)? Why skip the DR/10 capstone and at-will free abilities? And for a dual wielding multiclasser, how could I give up evasion, extend, and wisdom bonus to AC? (for references to builds with the above abilities, see attached builds). For every bit that this iteration makes no sense, it makes perfect sense for me. This character does everything I want as she is - without evasion, with a lower spell point pool, and without spring boosts and freakin' wings. This is all that but better.

At least 150% the DPS. 10% static speed boost. Barbarian sprint boost. Barbarian Power Attack I. And I get wings with that.

Finally, aesthetics. Thank god pink swords and hot bell bottoms are the top notch DPS gear this cycle. Epic Marilith chain and chaosblades for the win. No more fugly Rocka Red Emma.

Human 18 favored soul / 1 barbarian / 1 fighter
Chaotic Neutral. Two Weapon Fighting. Khopeshes.

UNBUFFED STATS
36 STR: 18 base + 5 levels + 1 enhancement +2 tome + 1 litany of the dead + 6 item + 3 exceptional
25 DEX: 15 base + 2 tome + 1 litany of the dead + 7 item
26 CON: 14 base + 1 enhancement +2 tome + 1 litany of the dead + 6 item + 2 exceptional
11 INT: 8 base + 2 tome + 1 litany
22 WIS: 8 base + 1 enhancement + 3 tome + 1 litany of the dead + 6 item + 3 exceptional
24 CHA: 12 base + 2 tome + 2 enhancement + 1 litany of the dead + 6 item + 1 exceptional

FEATS

1: Two Weapon Fighting
1: Toughness
2: Favored of the Sovereign Host
3: Maximize Spell
3: Child of the Sovereign Host
5: (Barbarian)
6: Energy Resistance: Acid
6: Quicken Spell
9: Improved Two Weapon Fighting
11: Energy resistance: Fire
12: Improved Critical: Slashing
13: Beloved of the Sovereign Hos
15: Power Attack
16: Energy Resistance: Electricity
18: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
20 (Fighter): Khopesh

SKILLS
Full ranks in concentration and intimidate. Remainder in balance. Enough in tumble to be able to tumble in my armor

SPELLS

Level 1: Divine Favor, Nightshield, Shield of Faith, Remove Fear

Level 2: Resist Energy; Summon Monster II; Bear's Endurance; Bull's Strength

Level 3 Prayer; Magic Circle Against Evil; Searing Light; Bestow Curse

Level 4 Divine Power; Freedom of Movement; Recitation; Neutralize Poison

Level 5: Protection from Energy; Break Enchantment; Raise Dead; Stalwart Pact

Level 6: Heal, Blade Barrier, Cure Moderate wounds, Mass

Level 7: Resurrection; Protection from Energy, Mass; Cure Serious Wounds, Mass

Level 8: Death Ward; Cure Critical Wounds, Mass

Level 9: Heal, Mass or Energy Drain

Consumable Substitutes True Seeing, Lesser Restoration, Greater Restoration, Remove Curse, Heal, etc.

Equipment:
I have a lot of work to do! My old gear will work fine for a little while (I have lots of random guards like Sundering Ooze Guard, and I use a Belt of Brute Strength with Dragontouched Full Plate with Con 6 and Destruction). With the new build, I think it's time to re-craft some things. I need some luck with a Ravager or Frenzied Berzeker ring, and then I will switch over to a belt/ring set.

Weaponry

Mineral II Khopeshes (holy, acid burst, acid blast)
Lightning II Khopeshes (holy, shocking burst, shocking blast)
Steam Khopeshes (icy/good burst/icy blast)
Earthgrab Heavy pick and light pick
Epic Chaosblades
Greater construct bane longswords
Greater undead bane warhammers and longswords
Misc caster stuff like Epic Greenblade and Staff of the Petitioner


Armor

Armor: Epic Marilith Chain (Seeker +10, DR 5/Evil, Evil Guard, Blue slot: Toughness), and backup Dragontouched Full Plate with +5 resist / Corrosive Salt Guard / Destruction for mobs immune to critical hits
Bracers: Epic Bracers of the Claw (Heavy Fort, +2 con)
Goggles: Greensteel Goggles (lightning strike, greater lightning resistance, 150 mana, +5 cha skills)
Hat: Epic Helm of the Red Dragon (7 str, Greater False Life, Magma Surge Guard)
Necklace: Epic Torc of Prince Raiyum, (Wiz VI, Greater Spell Penetration 8, Colorless Slot: 6 cha), Shintao Cord, Kilau's Necklace
Cloak: Greensteel Radiance II or Corrosive Salt (45 HP)
Belt: Ravager Belt (6 con)
Trinket: Litany of the Dead (+1 hit/dam, +1 to all stats)
Gloves: Epic Gloves of the Claw (30% healing amp, set bonus 4 damage), Epic Spectral Gloves (7 dex, 4 to-hit, 4 resist)
Boots: Greensteel weave boots (Concordant Opposition fear immunity/poison immunity/superior healing lore)
Ring: Ravager Ring (6 str/+1 str/+2 str)
Ring2: Epic Ring of Venom (6 dex, 4 backstab)

[Anthios888]

Basic Principles

These builds are melees and they are healers. None of them is particularly focused on DC-based spells like Destruction, Greater Command, etc. There are many exceptional "combat caster cleric" builds available on this forum, but this is not the essence of Rocka.
Don't let anyone tell you that you can't heal well. It takes some practice. Accept the responsibility when you mess up and don't blame the build. Battleclerics have a learning curve.
I always advise that Maximize is going to get you the best bang for your buck. Battleclerics don't have a lot of time to sit around and alternate between tiny mass cures that aren't topping off the party. We benefit from swinging more, casting blade barrier more, with as few keystrokes as possible. Please don't start a flamewar arguing with me. If you want empower healing instead, go ahead and make your character your way.
Extend Spell is awesome and it is one of those feats on the border between luxury and necessity. For a battlecleric, double duration divine favors & divine powers is helpful. Due to the tight feats on these builds, it is generally the first to go when I need to fit something in.
Improved critical is included in every one of these builds because the days are gone when you can mineral II through everything and expect to be the greatest player in the game. Lightning II weapons, for example, will do over 20% more damage in many situations than a mineal II. Epic chaosblades, epic swords of shadows, and other upcoming weapons will no doubt reinforce the need to have improved critical. The improved critical feat adds a lot more than most players think. For the pure favored soul builds that are struggling with feats, dropping improved critical may be convenient while you are in the process of getting gear, after you have mineral II greensteel weapons.
DPS. A khopesh on either a cleric or favored soul is nearly identical to an elf with scimitars or a drow with rapiers and full class and racial bonuses (often within 1-2 damage per second). All of these are superior to other weapon types, with the exception of a warforged/h-orc Favored Soul or H-orc cleric with Greater Two handed Fighting and an Epic Sword of Shadows, which is also equal to the scimitar and khopesh. Any other 2-handed weapon drops your DPS significantly. After all this time, battleclerics are actually pretty well balanced between the weapon types!
Get the Torc! No, really! Nothing else matters in life but the Torc!




Fanfare Half-Elf 18 cleric / 2 monk ("The Unyielding Crusader")


Khopesh user
Human healing amplification
Evasion
Human versatility damage boost


BASE STATS
17 STR
15 DEX + 2 tome
14 CON
8 INT
8 WIS
13 CHA

FEATS
Toughness, Rogue Dilletante, Two Weapon Fighting, Maximize, Quicken, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Greater Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Critical: Slashing, Khopesh, Power Attack


Elf 18 Favored Soul / 2 Monk


Scimitar user
Evasion
Racial and class bonuses to scimitars


BASE STATS
16 STR
15 DEX + 2 tome
14 CON
10 INT
8 WIS
13 CHA

FEATS
Toughness, Two Weapon Fighting, Empower Spell, Maximize, Quicken, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Greater Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Critical: Slashing, Power Attack


Warforged Favored Soul 20


Greatsword user
High to-hit
Warforged power attack (6 damage)
Access to Epic Sword of Shadows
Warforged immunities
Robust hit point potential


BASE STATS (32 points)
18 STR
8 DEX
16 CON
6 WIS
12 CHA

FEATS
Toughness, Power Attack, Extend, Maximize, Quicken, Improved Critical: Slashing, & Empower Spell


H-Orc Favored Soul 20


Greatsword user
Reaches Damage Reduction (DR/-) 10
No Greater Two Handed Fighting
At-will cure light wounds for free top offs while healbotting
8 Damage Boosts
Fullly boosted Divine Punishment


BASE STATS
20 STR
8 DEX
16 CON
6 INT
8 WIS
12 CHA

FEATS
Toughness, Weapon Proficiency: Greatsword, Empower Spell, Maximize Spell, Quicken Spell, Improved Critical: Slashing, Power Attack


Orc Cleric or FVS 18 / Fighter 2


Khopesh user
Ability to use all martial weapons
8 Fighter haste boost as well as damage boost
Marilith chain
Extra strength


BASE STATS
20 STR
15 DEX
14 CON
6 INT
10 WIS
6 CHA

FEATS
Toughness, Two Weapon Fighting, Khopesh, Maximize/(Empower Healing if you want radiant servant), Quicken, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Greater Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Critical: Slashing, Power Attack



Orc Cleric / Fighter 2


2-Handed Fighting user
Ability to use all martial weapons
Fighter haste boost
Marilith chain
Extra strength, power attack, and +4 damage using 2-handed
Divine Might


BASE STATS
18 STR
8 DEX
14 CON
6 INT
8 WIS
16 CHA + 2 tome (Divine Might 3)

FEATS
Toughness, Two Handed Fighting, Extend Spell, Empower Healing, Quicken, Improved Two handed Fighting, Greater Two Handed Fighting, Improved Critical: Slashing, Power Attack

[grodon9999]

Looks solid as hell.

[lord_of_rage]

Rock I have always loved your builds. I started playing one of the elf builds and its not bad but it just doesnt do what I want. This is right on the money hard hitting the potential to heal like a beast and I am guessing it solos like a champ. I prefer melees I always have. So I have become used to meleeing and dropping back or healing mid fight. I like being able to contribute to dps and help turn the tide of a bad run. This looks like it will let me do just that. +1.

[kanbeki]

nice build, a friend pointed me here as I have just recently capped an 18fvs/1barb/1fighter, but dwarf THF.

[Jyxx]

Rocka, your builds are always fun to play, and having ones like these explained are a great way to learn the dynamics. It makes perfect sense too. Sort of reminds me of the Erevis Cale character in the FR novels.

Without being able to roll a 34pt, do you have a suggestion for where to drop 2 points from it to start? Am hoping to eventually turn it into a 34pt.

Thanks and keep on Rocka-ing!

[wamjratl1]

She's a killer queen
gunfighter gelatine
dynamite with a laser beam

[valorik]

on your wf fvs build I don't reccomend adamantine body, you can still hit 13 dr, 2 dr is far from worth a feat in my opinion.




ps. Level meeeeeee :o

[maddmatt70]

Until they make clerical or Fvs prestige enhancements my question for you is why not bard? A bard can do the exact same thing other then when intense focused healing is required (example is the tower raid final boss) just with a little smaller mana pool and since you use mana regen guards and supplements why not go for it. A battle bard that heals is the most efficient healer in DDO in terms of they reduce healing duration moreso then any other healer. Since you are dumping wisdom anyway why not just go with a bard?

[Salkanor]

nice build, a friend pointed me here as I have just recently capped an 18fvs/1barb/1fighter, but dwarf THF.

You don't have any friends.

:eek:

[Anthios888]

Until they make clerical or Fvs prestige enhancements my question for you is why not bard? A bard can do the exact same thing other then when intense focused healing is required (example is the tower raid final boss) just with a little smaller mana pool and since you use mana regen guards and supplements why not go for it. A battle bard that heals is the most efficient healer in DDO in terms of they reduce healing duration moreso then any other healer. Since you are dumping wisdom anyway why not just go with a bard?

Silly Madmatt. It's called WINGS!

(and toughness enhancements, and uninterruptable rezzing, and blade barrier, and 1000+ more mana...)

[Gunga]

Sweet.

[Anthios888]

on your wf fvs build I don't reccomend adamantine body, you can still hit 13 dr, 2 dr is far from worth a feat in my opinion.




ps. Level meeeeeee :o

I'm more of a fan of a greater two handed fighting build, but I keep getting requests for a 15 DR fvs. I'd personally exchange it for empower spell or something and go for more of a hybrid model if I was staying pure like that.

[valorik]

I'm more of a fan of a greater two handed fighting build, but I keep getting requests for a 15 DR fvs. I'd personally exchange it for empower spell or something and go for more of a hybrid model if I was staying pure like that.

It's almost impossible to fit in gthf on a pure build the only thing I can see dropping would be toughnessm and that'd bring you to aroudn 400 hp from 500... am I mistaken in thinking that each tier of thf adds the same bonus to damage? as in say if thf adds 15 dps, then so does gthf? is it not worth goign for if you can't go full?

ps... sorry to start what may be a derailing?

[Anthios888]

I think that 3rd tier gives you a bit of an extra nudge of love, making things like Destruction hit all glancing blows

[cm2_supernova]

tee hee...you said ass :D

[Jyxx]

For 32-pt build, it worked out by dropping STR to 17 and changing INT to 9, with the rest the same.

The question(s) is/are - would taking Fighter at 1 and Barbarian at 11 do much of anything? Fighter gets the longsword for free, but it could allow Khopesh to be taken sooner (instead of at 20) for a DPS gain throught the build. Was also thinking of moving PA up sooner for the dmg bump.

The build is working quite well though. Fun and sturdy. Only needs a potion now and then when I get too full of myself and rile up too many trashers.

Ok, one more Q .. when you going to make a Rocka'n'Rolla build?

[Anthios888]

For 32-pt build, it worked out by dropping STR to 17 and changing INT to 9, with the rest the same.

The question(s) is/are - would taking Fighter at 1 and Barbarian at 11 do much of anything? Fighter gets the longsword for free, but it could allow Khopesh to be taken sooner (instead of at 20) for a DPS gain throught the build. Was also thinking of moving PA up sooner for the dmg bump.

The build is working quite well though. Fun and sturdy. Only needs a potion now and then when I get too full of myself and rile up too many trashers.

Ok, one more Q .. when you going to make a Rocka'n'Rolla build?

Sounds like you made good adjustments to make it work for you. Since I had a whole slew of weapons, including a mineral II greataxe, I just got by using longswords and 2-handed weapons until level 18, when I crafted a pair of Lightning IIs and couldn't resist taking Khopesh until any later. It actually makes sense to use longswords at low levels, since you're often more worried about hitting accurately, and FvS bonuses to hit are a big help in that area.

I took Barbarian right away because I felt it made the low levels much more tolerable. Running fast is super fun, and practical when quests consist of hitting a bunch of levers or whatever. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to dropping the barbarian level for a second fighter level in the event that I need an extra feat (living without Extend is occasionally annoying, but I manage).

P.S. There's some Rocknrolla dude on Ghallanda that everyone confuses for me. Blasphemy. So I haven't delved into the RockandRoll puns much beyond Roq Star and Rockan Robin.

[Ghostnote]

Eager to roll something similar to this build once I'm working on a serious alt, looks like a lot of fun. The Khopesh is an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

[Sircowdog]

Looking at the alternate builds, specifically the drow 2mo/18FvS, I'm wondering about a couple things:

The drow says rapier user, but I'm curious why you'd use that when the enhancements and class feats for Vulkoor only support shortswords, with the racial enhancements working for both shortsword and rapiers. Does the extra crit range on rapiers somehow make up for loss of hit and damage?

Also, the feats under the drow FvS list improved crit:slashing. Was this a cut & paste error? Seems like the build is centered around piercing....

[Anthios888]

Looking at the alternate builds, specifically the drow 2mo/18FvS, I'm wondering about a couple things:

The drow says rapier user, but I'm curious why you'd use that when the enhancements and class feats for Vulkoor only support shortswords, with the racial enhancements working for both shortsword and rapiers. Does the extra crit range on rapiers somehow make up for loss of hit and damage?

Also, the feats under the drow FvS list improved crit:slashing. Was this a cut & paste error? Seems like the build is centered around piercing....

You're right here on the shortsword thing -- I thought that the enhancements worked for rapiers as the elven enhancements work for scimitars. Build removed. Too bad they ended up with a second-rate weapon.

[Consumer]

At least 150% the DPS. 10% static speed boost. Barbarian sprint boost. Barbarian Power Attack I. And I get wings with that.

Ah I see its pull numbers out of thin air day, Barbarians do 169% more DPS than any other toon because they have an axe symbol.

Couple things to point out.

This build (401 rounded up) has ~15 DPS more than an elf 18/2 monk (386 rounded up) and it has less than an 18/2 Elf FvS/Fighter (405 rounded up).
It has lower to hit than the 18/2.
Lit II Khops do more DPS than epic Chaosblades.
The 18/2 has evasion.

[grodon9999]

This build (401 rounded up) has ~15 DPS more than an elf 18/2 monk (386 rounded up) and it has less than an 18/2 Elf FvS/Fighter (405 rounded up).
It has lower to hit than the 18/2.
Lit II Khops do more DPS than epic Chaosblades.
The 18/2 has evasion.

What variables did you use? All the gear listed in the OP and Lighting IIs?

[Consumer]

What variables did you use? All the gear listed in the OP and Lighting IIs?

Swapped to Shintao and Tharne's with GS boots for a dps set up.

Just noticed the OP has WF THF FvS equal to the TWF, this is incorrect, the THF is lower DPS than the TWF builds.

[xxpwnedxx]

First off great build! (s)

Secondly, I was wondering if anything has changed on Rocka since U9/U10 and if you would consider going AOV?

I plan on tr'ing my monk into this build if that helps at all.

Any advice would be great thanks!

[Anthios888]

First off great build! (s)

Secondly, I was wondering if anything has changed on Rocka since U9/U10 and if you would consider going AOV?

I plan on tr'ing my monk into this build if that helps at all.

Any advice would be great thanks!

Hey!

I'm Angel of Vengeance now. It's a very nice little addition to DPS. Because I'm not using a favored weapon -- and I knew I locked myself into that choice. Thankfully, Angel of Vengeance gives this build back its old hybrid flavor because there's a bit more you can accomplish with nuke casting in addition to the melee focus. So that's a lot of fun.

My current plan is to do a true reincarnate into a h-orc epic sword of shadow user, and whether I keep khopesh and g2wf or just drop the feats for greater two handed fighting I haven't decided. A few things have changed that made me re-evaluate my choice. First, half orc outstrips warforged for my particular build. Second, we can now slot sword of shadows with devil's ruin, something we couldn't do before. At the time, t2wf was way ahead on certain situations like boss fights which made 2HF seem less flexible for me. Now, that's still slightly true but not as much. Finally, I have used earthgrab heavy picks for a long time, and they're just not as necessary for having fun on this kind of character, since we have so many more strategy options available to succeed in epic.

Anyway, so that's my own path. Because I only do one reincarnation at a time, I don't have a lot of time to TR Rocka (http://my.ddo.com/character/ghallanda/rocka/) right now so I have just been playing it and having fun.

Otherwise, the build is basically the same with the exception of some gear and AP. It's always a fun one for me. The speed boost may or may not be overkill, I haven't decided =)

Enjoy! Monk is a great past life!

p.s. Just noticed Consumer's crazy bumps up there from 7 months ago. What a shame I missed his trolling!

[Gunga]

The speed boost may or may not be overkill, I haven't decided =)

It's perfect. ;)

My favorite healing build.

[Quikster]

Didnt read the whole thing Anth. But I agree with your opening. Nothing beats being able to melee well and also heal the group.

Currently have a 34 pt 18/2 fvs/monk, human with khops. Since the change to spells and extend I dropped extend for ic slash.

I also have an 18 clr 1 barb 1 rog that im leveling. This beast will use esos. Its helf with 2 paly past lives. Healing amp specd. Currently maxed wis and about 30 str, but that will prolly change once I get a torc and a shroud sp item. Lots of fun to play.

[Horkrux]

wrong thread but free bump!

[xxpwnedxx]

I'm Angel of Vengeance now. It's a very nice little addition to DPS. Because I'm not using a favored weapon -- and I knew I locked myself into that choice. Thankfully, Angel of Vengeance gives this build back its old hybrid flavor because there's a bit more you can accomplish with nuke casting in addition to the melee focus. So that's a lot of
fun.

Thanks for the response!

That's what i was thinking about the AoV, just wanted to make sure that in going that route i wouldn't miss out on anything major.


My current plan is to do a true reincarnate into a h-orc epic sword of shadow user, and whether I keep khopesh and g2wf or just drop the feats for greater two handed fighting I haven't decided. A few things have changed that made me re-evaluate my choice. First, half orc outstrips warforged for my particular build. Second, we can now slot sword of shadows with devil's ruin, something we couldn't do before. At the time, t2wf was way ahead on certain situations like boss fights which made 2HF seem less flexible for me. Now, that's still slightly true but not as much.

I also thought about going Thf, would you suggest taking the thf feat line in-place of the twf line? or maybe throw in some more meta's for better healing?

Half-orc > human. on a dps level yes. How ever does the benefits of half orc outway human versatility/extra feat?




The speed boost may or may not be overkill, I haven't decided =)

Seems like the speed boost is amazing!

I guess the best way would be to try them both. and hey multiple past life's wont hurt any1 :D

[wiglin]

Hey Rocka. I have been afk for a few months now. Probably be back sometime. When I re-vip, I was planning on TR'ing my FvS into a variant of this build. My FvS is my favorite character, and I thought about trying a little more defensive side of the build with tanking possibilities, so I thought I would post here, since it was the inspiration to what I wanted to try.

Gear is pretty dynamic, and what I have gives me the majority of want I want without gear swapping. I am pretty lazy when it comes to clickies and gear swapping, so I like to squeeze as much of my stuff into one set. Of course I could make a few changes to boost dps when needed, but I wanted to see on paper how it would look if I went a little more defensive with damage mitigation. This is why calvary armor instead of marilith chain. If I go this route, I would probably knock out 3 barb past lives for the tasty 30hps. This would let me push to almost 700hps. Add the unlimited self heals and 65 intimidate, I thought it would be a fun change of pace.

My Int is a little high, but if I wanted to max umd, concentration, and intimidate it is needed. I end up with 12 extra points, so I threw them in jump for a decent dispell proof jump score. Those 12 points could go anywhere though. I figured 12 points in jump had a better return then 6 points into a cross class skill. Although balance wouldn't be a bad option and with a 6 base and the current gear set balance would be 26.

My second ring can be any tod ring with +1Con. I chose Kormors, because no one ever wants it and I still need the ring, but any of the +1Con rings would work.

With Tr'ing in the game and me being as fickle as I can be with builds sometimes, I no longer use +3tomes in any calculations.

Level 8 is a controversial spell choice. Most use mass deathward, but I really like my air elemental and holy aura offensive blindness against evil mobs for soloing.

I added Spell Focus: Evocation since I had a free yellow slot with this gearset. My evocation DC will be really low, but I figured its there might as well have it. Even on my current FvS which uses wisdom as a dump stat blade barrier is a nice addition to dps. I was happy with the results of it when I specced AoV on Lamannia pre-u9.

The only real question I have is could I hold aggro on mobs that need more than a 65 intimidate. I have the claw set, but so does pretty much every other good melee so its more or less a wash. I would be looking at the damage from the epic sword of shadows plus the archons laser dmg and stacking divine punishments.

Race: Dwarf
Class: 18Favored Soul /1Fighter /1Barbarian
Alignment: Neutral
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Stats: 36-Point (Helpful Past Lives: 3Barbarian)
Str: 32 +11 {34 +12} (16Base +5Levels +2Tome +6Item +3Exc) {+2Rage Potion}
Dex: 18 +4 (8Base +2Tome +6Item)
Con: 30 +10 {32 +11} (18Base +2Tome +6Item +3Exc +1Enh) {+2Rage Potion}
Int: 22 +6 (14Base +2Tome +6Item)
Wis: 16 +3 (8Base +2Tome +6Item)
Cha: 26 +8 (14Base +2Tome +7Item +2Enh +1Exc)
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Saves:
Fort: 35 / 37 (12Base +10Stat +4GH +5Resist +1Ritual +2Luck +1Rage Potion) / +2 vs Spells
Reflex: 28 / 30 (12Base +3Stat, +4GH, +5Resist +1Ritual +2Luck +1Haste) / +2 vs Spells
Will: 27 / 29 (12Base +3Stat +4GH +5Resist +2Luck +1Ritual) / +2 vs Spells
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Skills:
38 Concentration (23Base +8Stat +4GH +2Luck +1Rage Potion)
65 Intimidate (23Base +8Stat +4GH +2Luck +15Item +5Item +3SF +3Persuasion -2Aura Debuff)
34 UMD (11Base +8Stat +4GH +2Luck +5Shroud +3Persuasion)
29 Jump (12Base +11Stat +4GH +2Luck) or 26 Balance (6Base +4Stat +4Racial +6Shroud +4GH +2Luck)
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Hit Points: 643 (673)
144 FvS
12 Barbarian
10 Fighter
200 Constitution
20 Heroic Durability
10 Draconic Vitality
42 Toughness Feat x2
20 Toughness Item
40 Dwarf Enhancement
40 FvS Enhancement
40 Superior False Life
45 Shroud
20 Rage Potion
(30 Barbarian Past Life x3)
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Spell Points: 2571
1405 Base
80 Magical Training
216 Cha
150 EotS IV
400 Archmagi
300 Shroud
20 FvS Past Life (I would TR my current FvS)
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Attack Bonus: 47 (Epic Sword of Shadows)
15 Base
12 Str
10 Weapon
3 Divine Favor
5 Divine Power
2 Aura Debuff (If I am hitting it, then it is in my aura losing 2 ac, effectively raising my AB by 2)
1 Haste
4 GH
-5 Power Attack
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Damage: 50-75 Normal / 150-225 Crits (Epic Sword of Shadows)
5-30 Base
10 Weapon
18 Str
10 Power Attack
3 Divine Favor
4 Claw Set
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Feats:
L1B: Toughness
L2: (FvS) Favored by the Sovereign Host (Longsword Proficiency)
L3: Empower Healing
L4: (FvS) Child of the Sovereign Host (+1Hit Longswords)
L6 Toughness, (FvS) Energy Resistance: Fire
L9 Quicken
L10 (FvS) Energy Resistance: Acid
L12 Improved Critical: Slashing,
L13: (FvS) Beloved of the Sovereign Host (+2Damage Longswords)
L14F: (F) Power Attack
L15: Maximise
L17: (FvS) Energy Resistance: Electric
L18: Skill Focus: Intimidate
L19: (FvS) Leap of Faith
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Noted Abilities:
Leap of Faith
Aura of Menace (-2Saves, -2Atk, -2AC, -2SR)
Shield of Condemnation (On Hit % Chance for -20%Light Vulnerabilty, -10Fort) {Can stack up to 5 times}
Summon Archon (Deals 1-3+18Dmg every 2s) {Effected by potency and enhancements at time of summoning}
+30% Dmg to Fire, Physical, and Untyped Spells
+10% Run Speed
10 Fire, Acid, and Electric Resistance
Damage Mitigation (Con Opp, DR5/Chaotic, Demonic Shield)
SP Regen (Con Opp + Torq)
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Enhancements:
Fighter Haste Boost I
Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Dwarven Constitution I
Dwarven Racial Toughness IV
Favored Soul Unyielding Sovereignty
Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II
Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Favored Soul Smiting IV
Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
Favored Soul Charisma II
Favored Soul Toughness IV
Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
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Spells:
L1 Divine Favor, Nightshield, Protection from Evil, Remove Fear
L2 Resist Energy, Soundburst, Bulls Strength, Bears Endurance
L3 Mass Aid, Prayer, Protection From Energy, Cure Serious Wounds
L4 Deathward, Divine Power, Freedom of Movement, Recitation
L5 Mass Cure Light Wounds, Protection from Elements, Divine Punishment, Break Enchantment
L6 Blade Barrier, Heal, Cometfall
L7 Destruction, Mass Cure Serious Wounds, Resurrection
L8 Summon Monster 8, Holy Aura
L9 Mass Heal
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Armor:
Weapon: Epic Sword of Shadows (+10, 5d10, 18-20x3, Adamantine, DR Crystal {red})
Head: Dread Admiral’s Tricorne (Superior Potency VI, +15Intimidate)
Goggles: Shroud (Blindness/Disease Immunity, +150SP, Conc-Opp, +5Cha Skills, +10 Haggle/Diplomacy, +6Wis)
Trinket: Epic Shard of Vollun (Archmagi, Imp Radiance 9, Radiance Guard, Spell Focus: Evocation {yellow}, +1Str {colorless})
Necklace: Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II (Transform Kinetic Energy)
Cloak: Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord (+7Cha, +15Diplomacy/Haggle, Persuasion, +1Cha {yellow})
Body: Epic Calvary Plate (+6, Demonic Shield, Superior False Life, +5Resist, DR5/Chaotic, Toughness {blue})
Gloves: Epic Glove of the Claw (+6Str, +5Intimidate, 30%Healing Amp, Set Bonus: +4Damage, +20%Hate)
Bracers: Epic Bracers of the Claw (Heavy Fortification, +2Con)
Ring 1: Epic Ring of the Buccaneer (+7Dex, +2Luck, +5Protection, +15Swim, Underwater Action, +6Con {green})
Ring 2: Kormor’s Ring (+6Int, +1Con, +2Str)
Belt: Shroud (45HP, +6Dex Skills, Blur, Displacement 2/2)
Boots: Striding / Anchoring
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[Anthios888]

I also thought about going Thf, would you suggest taking the thf feat line in-place of the twf line? or maybe throw in some more meta's for better healing?

2HF feats are a great investment. More metamagics doesn't necessarily equal better healing. Once you have quicken + either max or empower healing, you're in pretty good shape.




Half-orc > human. on a dps level yes. How ever does the benefits of half orc outway human versatility/extra feat?

On a two handed fighter, yes. 3 haste boosts, +3 str, +4 damage on two handed weapons, and +6 damage from power attack is a ton of DPS. I would also consider h-elf with rogue dill. (khopesh), elf (scimitar), or human (khopesh) on a 2wf variant.

[Anthios888]

Hey Rocka. I have been afk for a few months now. Probably be back sometime. When I re-vip, I was planning on TR'ing my FvS into a variant of this build. My FvS is my favorite character, and I thought about trying a little more defensive side of the build with tanking possibilities, so I thought I would post here, since it was the inspiration to what I wanted to try.

Gear is pretty dynamic, and what I have gives me the majority of want I want without gear swapping. I am pretty lazy when it comes to clickies and gear swapping, so I like to squeeze as much of my stuff into one set. Of course I could make a few changes to boost dps when needed, but I wanted to see on paper how it would look if I went a little more defensive with damage mitigation. This is why calvary armor instead of marilith chain. If I go this route, I would probably knock out 3 barb past lives for the tasty 30hps. This would let me push to almost 700hps. Add the unlimited self heals and 65 intimidate, I thought it would be a fun change of pace.

My Int is a little high, but if I wanted to max umd, concentration, and intimidate it is needed. I end up with 12 extra points, so I threw them in jump for a decent dispell proof jump score. Those 12 points could go anywhere though. I figured 12 points in jump had a better return then 6 points into a cross class skill. Although balance wouldn't be a bad option and with a 6 base and the current gear set balance would be 26.

My second ring can be any tod ring with +1Con. I chose Kormors, because no one ever wants it and I still need the ring, but any of the +1Con rings would work.

With Tr'ing in the game and me being as fickle as I can be with builds sometimes, I no longer use +3tomes in any calculations.

Level 8 is a controversial spell choice. Most use mass deathward, but I really like my air elemental and holy aura offensive blindness against evil mobs for soloing.

I added Spell Focus: Evocation since I had a free yellow slot with this gearset. My evocation DC will be really low, but I figured its there might as well have it. Even on my current FvS which uses wisdom as a dump stat blade barrier is a nice addition to dps. I was happy with the results of it when I specced AoV on Lamannia pre-u9.

The only real question I have is could I hold aggro on mobs that need more than a 65 intimidate. I have the claw set, but so does pretty much every other good melee so its more or less a wash. I would be looking at the damage from the epic sword of shadows plus the archons laser dmg and stacking divine punishments.

Race: Dwarf
Class: 18Favored Soul /1Fighter /1Barbarian
Alignment: Neutral
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Stats: 36-Point (Helpful Past Lives: 3Barbarian)
Str: 32 +11 {34 +12} (16Base +5Levels +2Tome +6Item +3Exc) {+2Rage Potion}
Dex: 18 +4 (8Base +2Tome +6Item)
Con: 30 +10 {32 +11} (18Base +2Tome +6Item +3Exc +1Enh) {+2Rage Potion}
Int: 22 +6 (14Base +2Tome +6Item)
Wis: 16 +3 (8Base +2Tome +6Item)
Cha: 26 +8 (14Base +2Tome +7Item +2Enh +1Exc)
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Saves:
Fort: 35 / 37 (12Base +10Stat +4GH +5Resist +1Ritual +2Luck +1Rage Potion) / +2 vs Spells
Reflex: 28 / 30 (12Base +3Stat, +4GH, +5Resist +1Ritual +2Luck +1Haste) / +2 vs Spells
Will: 27 / 29 (12Base +3Stat +4GH +5Resist +2Luck +1Ritual) / +2 vs Spells
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Skills:
38 Concentration (23Base +8Stat +4GH +2Luck +1Rage Potion)
65 Intimidate (23Base +8Stat +4GH +2Luck +15Item +5Item +3SF +3Persuasion -2Aura Debuff)
34 UMD (11Base +8Stat +4GH +2Luck +5Shroud +3Persuasion)
29 Jump (12Base +11Stat +4GH +2Luck) or 26 Balance (6Base +4Stat +4Racial +6Shroud +4GH +2Luck)
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Hit Points: 643 (673)
144 FvS
12 Barbarian
10 Fighter
200 Constitution
20 Heroic Durability
10 Draconic Vitality
42 Toughness Feat x2
20 Toughness Item
40 Dwarf Enhancement
40 FvS Enhancement
40 Superior False Life
45 Shroud
20 Rage Potion
(30 Barbarian Past Life x3)
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Spell Points: 2571
1405 Base
80 Magical Training
216 Cha
150 EotS IV
400 Archmagi
300 Shroud
20 FvS Past Life (I would TR my current FvS)
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Attack Bonus: 47 (Epic Sword of Shadows)
15 Base
12 Str
10 Weapon
3 Divine Favor
5 Divine Power
2 Aura Debuff (If I am hitting it, then it is in my aura losing 2 ac, effectively raising my AB by 2)
1 Haste
4 GH
-5 Power Attack
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Damage: 50-75 Normal / 150-225 Crits (Epic Sword of Shadows)
5-30 Base
10 Weapon
18 Str
10 Power Attack
3 Divine Favor
4 Claw Set
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Feats:
L1B: Toughness
L2: (FvS) Favored by the Sovereign Host (Longsword Proficiency)
L3: Empower Healing
L4: (FvS) Child of the Sovereign Host (+1Hit Longswords)
L6 Toughness, (FvS) Energy Resistance: Fire
L9 Quicken
L10 (FvS) Energy Resistance: Acid
L12 Improved Critical: Slashing,
L13: (FvS) Beloved of the Sovereign Host (+2Damage Longswords)
L14F: (F) Power Attack
L15: Maximise
L17: (FvS) Energy Resistance: Electric
L18: Skill Focus: Intimidate
L19: (FvS) Leap of Faith
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Noted Abilities:
Leap of Faith
Aura of Menace (-2Saves, -2Atk, -2AC, -2SR)
Shield of Condemnation (On Hit % Chance for -20%Light Vulnerabilty, -10Fort) {Can stack up to 5 times}
Summon Archon (Deals 1-3+18Dmg every 2s) {Effected by potency and enhancements at time of summoning}
+30% Dmg to Fire, Physical, and Untyped Spells
+10% Run Speed
10 Fire, Acid, and Electric Resistance
Damage Mitigation (Con Opp, DR5/Chaotic, Demonic Shield)
SP Regen (Con Opp + Torq)
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Enhancements:
Fighter Haste Boost I
Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Dwarven Constitution I
Dwarven Racial Toughness IV
Favored Soul Unyielding Sovereignty
Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II
Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Favored Soul Smiting IV
Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
Favored Soul Charisma II
Favored Soul Toughness IV
Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
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Spells:
L1 Divine Favor, Nightshield, Protection from Evil, Remove Fear
L2 Resist Energy, Soundburst, Bulls Strength, Bears Endurance
L3 Mass Aid, Prayer, Protection From Energy, Cure Serious Wounds
L4 Deathward, Divine Power, Freedom of Movement, Recitation
L5 Mass Cure Light Wounds, Protection from Elements, Divine Punishment, Break Enchantment
L6 Blade Barrier, Heal, Cometfall
L7 Destruction, Mass Cure Serious Wounds, Resurrection
L8 Summon Monster 8, Holy Aura
L9 Mass Heal
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Armor:
Weapon: Epic Sword of Shadows (+10, 5d10, 18-20x3, Adamantine, DR Crystal {red})
Head: Dread Admiral’s Tricorne (Superior Potency VI, +15Intimidate)
Goggles: Shroud (Blindness/Disease Immunity, +150SP, Conc-Opp, +5Cha Skills, +10 Haggle/Diplomacy, +6Wis)
Trinket: Epic Shard of Vollun (Archmagi, Imp Radiance 9, Radiance Guard, Spell Focus: Evocation {yellow}, +1Str {colorless})
Necklace: Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II (Transform Kinetic Energy)
Cloak: Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord (+7Cha, +15Diplomacy/Haggle, Persuasion, +1Cha {yellow})
Body: Epic Calvary Plate (+6, Demonic Shield, Superior False Life, +5Resist, DR5/Chaotic, Toughness {blue})
Gloves: Epic Glove of the Claw (+6Str, +5Intimidate, 30%Healing Amp, Set Bonus: +4Damage, +20%Hate)
Bracers: Epic Bracers of the Claw (Heavy Fortification, +2Con)
Ring 1: Epic Ring of the Buccaneer (+7Dex, +2Luck, +5Protection, +15Swim, Underwater Action, +6Con {green})
Ring 2: Kormor’s Ring (+6Int, +1Con, +2Str)
Belt: Shroud (45HP, +6Dex Skills, Blur, Displacement 2/2)
Boots: Striding / Anchoring
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Hi Wigz,

Hope you've been well

Why dwarf ? I know you wanna tank, but have you given a good look at h-orc? It's just a lot of free to-hit, intimidate, etc. since you are using a greatsword. I think dwarves are neat for axe users or evaders but you're basically just getting a little HP from it. Even warforged would give you a bunch of free hit/damage from favored weapons, and still net you the same HP.

Also, I'd really consider shield mastery for your extra feat you were talking about, unless you think you will be hate tanking primarily. Shield mastery gives a static 15 or 20% damage reduction. I have another fvs I am going to use with epic demon scale armor, shields, and other ways to reduce damage in order to corral aggro. We'll see how well it works!

See you around

[wiglin]

Hi Wigz,

Hope you've been well

Also, I'd really consider shield mastery for your extra feat you were talking about, unless you think you will be hate tanking primarily. Shield mastery gives a static 15 or 20% damage reduction. I have another fvs I am going to use with epic demon scale armor, shields, and other ways to reduce damage in order to corral aggro. We'll see how well it works!

See you around

I have been good. Just taking care of some other stuff right now and needed to lay down the keyboard and mouse until I am done.

I chose dwarf mainly for flavor not a power game choice. I did want to hit 650HP and dwarf makes this easier, although warforged would make it just as easy and add a little more dps to the SoS. No real reason other than personal choice.

Shield Mastery is a good choice, I didn't really think about since I haven't played with the new changes. If I grind out 3 barbarians past lives, I could easily drop a toughness and still be at 650HP. The loss of dps threat would be offset a little by the double threat gained from using a shield with intimidate, and I could still switch to the epic sos for mobs that need more than a 65 intimidate.

I do like the passive damage mitigation with the shield setup.
20% DR Levick's Defender w/ Shield Mastery
30 Temp HP Proc Demonic Shield
5/Chaotic
Temp HP Con Opp
Heal Guard Levicks Defender (small chance but its there)

Then if did need to block for a few seconds
25 more DR (15 Shield + 10 BAB/2)