The Ultimate

[Logic]

The Ultimate: 20 Human FvS

This is the ultimate character. Most powerful overall solo/group/raid character I could come up with.

Notable Features:
OK melee dps
Free 6s heals (190 non crit to self)
OK offensive casting
DR 10
~70 Guard average damage
Absolutely UNSTOPPABLE

Stats (36 pt build)
Str 18/40 (18 base + 5 level up + 1 LotD + 6 item + 4 tome + 2 completionist + 3 exceptional + 1 human)
Dex 14/26 (14 base + 1 LotD + 6 item + 3 tome + 2 completionist )
Con 14/28 (14 base + 1 LotD + 6 item + 4 tome +2 completionist + 1 human)
Int 8/13 (8 base + 1 LotD + 2 tome + 2 completionist)
Wis 14/30 (14 base + 1 LotD + 6 item + 4 tome + 2 completionist + 3 exceptional)
Cha 10/24 (10 base + 1 LotD + 6 item + 3 tome + 2 completionist + 2 capstone)

Feats (would have to sub one out for completionist)
TWF
ITWF
GTWF
Toughness
Quicken spell
Maximize Spell
Empower Spell
Empower Heal

Gear
Weapon GS longsword: Holy, pure good burst, +30% healing amplification (or currently a +30% healing amp 2nd concordant op item since they are currently bugged and stack)
2nd swappable longsword or shield, i.e. mineral II and DR15 shield for turtling
Helm GS Heavy fort, greater healing lore, 1d8 acid guard, +10 hp, + 1 excep con skills
Goggles GS Lightning strike guard, 1d8 lightning, 1d4 good, 50% 1d4 lightning (Swap for tharnes if needed)
Neck Epic Torc, +6 dex
Cloak GS concordant op, +6 wisdom, blindness/disease immunity, +15 HP, +20 HP, +5 excep con skills
Armor DT robe, 10% healing amplification, 20% healing amplifcation, Disintegration Guard
Belt Knost's Belt, +6 con GFL, frenzied berserker (planar grids)
Bracer Swapable, Bracers of the Glacier, Epic bracers of demon consort, or GS guard item
Glove GS Incineration guard/GS crushing wave guard (Epic spectral if +hit is needed for epic)
Boot Madstone boots
Ring Encrusted Ring, +6 str, + 1 excep str, +2 excep str, frenzied berserker
Ring Dragonmarked Ring or Telvi's Touch, +6 charisma, +1 excep wisdom, +2 excep wisdom

537 Unbuffed HP
20 Base
160 FvS
10 Rep
30 GFL
45 GS
180 con bonus
22 Toughness Feat
60 Toughness Enh
10 Barb past life

Free cure light wounds
11.5 Base (1d4+4+5)
2.15 40% enh + 75% ardor pot
3 max empower empower
74 average healing

Healing amp
1.3 human
1.716 items (10%x20%x30%)
1.15 3x paladin past lifes
257% healing amp

74x257% = 190 free cure light wounds non crit to self on 6s cooldown

So this char can do it all. He has OK melee damage, DR 10, blade barriers, implosion, 190 hp free self heals, torc, concordant op, and the ability to turtle with 37 blocking DR to recover mana.

Add in more past lives like sorc (for implosion DC), wizard and FvS for spell pen, monk for melee damage, fighter for +hit, paladin for healing amp, and it will become even more powerful.

This char could solo almost every quest in the game w/o any consumables (other than cheap ardor pots) without too much trouble. I would imagine some epics could be solo'd w/o consumables, although it would take a while.

The ultimate character!

[Dartwick]

April fools day was 2 days ago.

[rjedi]

April fools day was 2 days ago.

harsh....

Logic, unless you have all of those completions and TRs then this might not be a good build for everything IMO you might want to bump str down 2 leaving you with 6 more stat points which would go into wis to try and get the DCs up

and if you do have all the TRs under your belt then more power to you

[Impaqt]

9x Reincarnate to get

"OK" Melee DPS.....

"OK" Offensive Casting....

Come on.... The only reason this guy is "Unstoppable" is because he can infinitely heal himself.. We arent playing Chess here.. there is no forfeit.....

[Logic]

Come on.... The only reason this guy is "Unstoppable" is because he can infinitely heal himself.. We arent playing Chess here.. there is no forfeit.....

Yeah. But the fact is he is unstopable. Could solo just about any quest on elite without too much trouble. Quicken + maximize + empower spell + empower heal for 190hp and you can keep swinging your longswords without having to back off unless you are taking a lot of damage. And while you're doing this you will be getting mana back from torc and cordant op. Drop blade barriers or implosion to speed things up if you want. Turtle with shield block and guards get mana back when soloing epics.

A 32pt human FvS build could do this but just wouldn't be quite as powerful as one with many past lives.

[Twerpp]

Unstoppable/Everlasting is only cool if you have enough intimidate or dps to make monsters actually want to hit you. As it is you're just an okay healer. Mobs will never pay attention to you so being unkillable is pointless.

[Logic]

Unstoppable/Everlasting is only cool if you have enough intimidate or dps to make monsters actually want to hit you. As it is you're just an okay healer. Mobs will never pay attention to you so being unkillable is pointless.

I guess I think of this as the best overall character. If the group needs a healer you can heal, if the group needs dps you can fill that role OK, if you want to solo... well you can solo just about anything.

[Twerpp]

Yeah no arguments about solo'ing. Any 17+ FvS is about all you need to solo anything. Whether you go melee, caster, or hybrid they can't be beat. I think they even put WF Wiz in their place.

[Logic]

Yeah no arguments about solo'ing. Any 17+ FvS is about all you need to solo anything. Whether you go melee, caster, or hybrid they can't be beat. I think they even put WF Wiz in their place.

Yeah my 20 WF FvS lord of blades is awesome for soloing. I can't do epics without consumables though, so thats why I was thinking about human with free heals and torc/concordant op.

[Impaqt]

Let us know when ya have some screenshots.

[rjedi]

i want to see the 9x reincarnate screenies first :D

[Logic]

Let us know when ya have some screenshots.

I don't have the time to TR 9 times. Look at my post... I said the most powerful overall build I could think of, not that I was going to do it.

That being said even with a 32 pt build and no TR's you can still have 165HP free heals on a 6s cooldown, DR10, and OK melee and spell casting. Pick up torc and cordant op and you are good to go. You can solo epics w/o consumables while others are /rolling 6 ways for epic scrolls! :P

[Impaqt]

I don't have the time to TR 9 times. Look at my post... I said the most powerful overall build I could think of, not that I was going to do it.

That being said even with a 32 pt build and no TR's you can still have 165HP free heals on a 6s cooldown, DR10, and OK melee and spell casting. Pick up torc and cordant op and you are good to go. You can solo epics w/o consumables while others are /rolling 6 ways for epic scrolls! :P

ok, do that and get me some screenshots of that then....

Cause I essentally have that build less the overabundance of healing amp and I cant come close to soloing epic without any consumables.

Epic mobs laugh at a BB Dc under 35. and many have evasion. and yousimply cannot melee solo against more than 2 or 3 and expect to keep yourself up with the capstone.

[Logic]

ok, do that and get me some screenshots of that then....

Cause I essentally have that build less the overabundance of healing amp and I cant come close to soloing epic without any consumables.

My Ultimate is nowhere near 20 so it'll be a while before I get gear and everything. If I succeed at soloing epics w/o consumables I'll post, and if I fail... well then you won't hear from me :P

But elite (NOT EPIC!) sins and such definately won't be too much trouble as those are already commonly solo'd.

[SolarDawning]

But epic sins and such definately won't be too much trouble as those are already commonly solo'd.

"epic sins"?
Are you referring to the Amrath quest "Sins of Attrition"?
Because if so, you've lost me. There's no Epic difficulty for Amrath content.

[nicro]

Would of figured 18 wizard/2 rogue WF to be the one considered the ultimate?

[rjedi]

"epic sins"?
Are you referring to the Amrath quest "Sins of Attrition"?
Because if so, you've lost me. There's no Epic difficulty for Amrath content.

your right, he is so ultimate that he can solo Epic sins in the future!

[Logic]

Epic mobs laugh at a BB Dc under 35. and many have evasion. and yousimply cannot melee solo against more than 2 or 3 and expect to keep yourself up with the capstone.

BB will still work against non evasion mobs, and 5 DC isn't going to make or break you.

Against epic melee mobs the guard damage will probably be better than meleeing. Get almost 100 guard damage, shield block with DR 37 (~43 with demon bracers), pop 180HP free heals every 6s, and regain mana from concordant op/torc. You might need to kite around a bit if the damage is too much for capstone to heal through. Sure it won't be fast, but I think it is doable with the right gear. My WF FvS melee's down epic mobs solo but I just don't have the mana to make it through an entire dungeon. With free 180 HP heals I think I could.

It might be an option to pop on earthgrab guard and possibly freezing ice guard. Shield block and heal while doing guard damage. When they get earthgrabbed/frozen hitem for autocrits. But probably best to just do pure guard damage like disintigrate rather than earthgrabs/freezing ice considering there is no group to help you capitalize on the autocrit stun.

Lotta theorcrafting, but I'll let you know how it goes in a few months. Leveling up the ULTIMATE character at the moment :P

[Logic]

your right, he is so ultimate that he can solo Epic sins in the future!

oh haha I meant elite, let me fix

[Logic]

"epic sins"?
Are you referring to the Amrath quest "Sins of Attrition"?
Because if so, you've lost me. There's no Epic difficulty for Amrath content.

Hey. Solar your healing amp monk build got me thinking about a healing amp FvS build. Whatcha think?

[SolarDawning]

Hey. Solar your healing amp monk build got me thinking about a healing amp FvS build. Whatcha think?

I think healing amp on a Sovereign Host capstone FvS is downright essential. =)
I've been meaning to do it on a human FvS after I get a couple paladin past lives first.

[Logic]

I think healing amp on a Sovereign Host capstone FvS is downright essential. =)
I've been meaning to do it on a human FvS after I get a couple paladin past lives first.

Yeah. I'm leveling a 32pter up right now. I don't think I'm gonna go for any past lives, but just use him for running quests and farming. It'll be nice to have a char that'll be able to mindlessly run most content :]

[rjedi]

It'll be nice to have a char that'll be able to mindlessly run most content :]

logic, you could try and make a build that is focused around this
could call farmbot and just make it for soloing the end game stuff without to many consuables

you would not need to worry about getting to raiding level with him cause all that stuff bounds to character :)

[Creeper]

It'll be nice to have a char that'll be able to mindlessly run most content :]

I suggest to you a fvs/monk split with 20 levels of monk.

[Delar303]

You listed the feats:

TWF
ITWF
GTWF
Toughness
Quicken spell
Maximize Spell
Empower Spell
Empower Heal

I did not think that Empower Spell would stack with Empower Heal? I thought that it was maximize+empower or maximize+empower heal with the only exception being heal and mass heal which only used empowered healing. One feat for two spells doesn't seem a great trade off, you may want to select extend or heighten if you want 2 DC for BB.