CoC vs. OFS...

[Gum]

Hjello,

I'm looking for some insight into Otilukes Freeking Sphere. I have Cone of Cold at the moment, have used it for a long time, and it's great, but I've never tried OFS. What is the difference in these two besides the spell level? They sound exactly the same in the description. I was considering picking it up, but don't want to if it's pretty much the same as CoC. Thanks for any input...Gum

[Lithic]

I dont like otilukes. Tried it a while back. Its nice for single targets like a fire elementals, but it doesnt have nearly the spread of cone of cold.

[Gum]

I dont like otilukes. Tried it a while back. Its nice for single targets like a fire elementals, but it doesnt have nearly the spread of cone of cold.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah that doesn't even sound like it's on par with CoC. Thanks bud :)

[Shade]

Yea ottilukes is garbage due to poor targeting and severe collision issues resulting it rarely hitting your main target, let alone any splash.. While CoC has a very solid targetting and huge AOE range.

Think the only advantage to ottilukes is it doesn't suffer from the slow-cast bug of CoC. (CoC casts at the same speed as a wizard on a sorc)

[ddoer]

Yea ottilukes is garbage due to poor targeting and severe collision issues resulting it rarely hitting your main target, let alone any splash.. While CoC has a very solid targetting and huge AOE range.


Otiluke's targeting is exactly the same as DBF so if you have problem in using Otiluke, you probably have problem in using DBF too. (and you probably have difficulty in using any ray spell too, btw) the statement of "it rarely hitting your main target" is more garbage than the spell.

i doubt any sorc will load this spell (nor i think any sorc should load this spell) as there are many other good L6 spells so you probably won't get too many meaningful comment of this spell on this forum. My wiz uses Otiluke in some quests and it works just fine. It has an animation similar to acid blast, that is slower than fireball, but i doubt if the animation delay actually give more time for a target to escape from the aoe distance.

[Shade]

Otiluke's targeting is exactly the same as DBF so if you have problem in using Otiluke, you probably have problem in using DBF too.
Unless they changed it recently (tested ottilukes years ago), it's nothing like fireball or DBF (Which cast almost identically on a sorc, but DBF is very different on a wizard - IE extremely slow)



i doubt if the animation delay actually give more time for a target to escape from the aoe distance.
Um yea ofcourse it does. That's almost the core of the problem.

Stay on the wizard forum as your advice really isn't accurate if your basing it wizards, which cast differently.

Your probably comparing DBF on a wizard to ottilkukes on a wizard, which may be the same. But on a sorc there 2 totally different worlds, so stick to your wizard forum.

[HallowedOne]

I usually use the TAB to select my target and wait for him to become "static" at the tank to fire it. Think its way easier than using mouselook view to select point of landing.

[Shade]

I usually use the TAB to select my target and wait for him to become "static" at the tank to fire it. Think its way easier than using mouselook view to select point of landing.

Easier? yea.
But also slower, less accurate and a poor choice if your trying to hit multiple targets.

I actually find my spells connect less often using the focus orb versus manually, so I almost always use manual targetting.

And when I use spells with fairly reliable aoe targetting like DBF with manual targetting, I connect 99% of casts.

I like the focus orb for reviewing debuffs and health status tho..Would be nice if there was some option to completely disable focus orb targeting, so I could still look at it, while using manual targetting.

[ddoer]

Unless they changed it recently (tested ottilukes years ago), it's nothing like fireball or DBF (Which cast almost identically on a sorc, but DBF is very different on a wizard - IE extremely slow)


Um yea ofcourse it does. That's almost the core of the problem.

Stay on the wizard forum as your advice really isn't accurate if your basing it wizards, which cast differently.

Your probably comparing DBF on a wizard to ottilkukes on a wizard, which may be the same. But on a sorc there 2 totally different worlds, so stick to your wizard forum.

so using your "years ago" test and subjective comment is probably a more useful advice than referencing to quicken wiz casting. I hope your test does not apply to manual targeting only.

btw, wizard quicken casting has a very close casting time in compare to a sorc. It is slightly slower (sth like 0.1 - 0.2 second difference) that one can hardly feel the difference in actual combat. I personally don't believe the slight difference in casting time affect targeting at all. Could you provide more information about how quicken wiz casting is different from sorc?