Acid Wit End Chest still stinks

[UnderwearModel]

I had hoped that with the new update the end chest was upped in value.

Nope. A lovely level 6 weapon was the parting gift with some super 60 gold and 60 platinum.

Level 15 quest because the Acid Scar monsters are tough, but the loot is still equivalent to running Tear of Dhakaan on Normal. Maybe there is some secret room I am missing.

I thought maybe doing the last optional acid scar mob would be the location of the level 15 chest. If it is, it was not from their little cubbie hole.

Oh well. Move on. Next!

[ZeroTakenaka]

I had hoped that with the new update the end chest was upped in value.

Nope. A lovely level 6 weapon was the parting gift with some super 60 gold and 60 platinum.

Level 15 quest because the Acid Scar monsters are tough, but the loot is still equivalent to running Tear of Dhakaan on Normal. Maybe there is some secret room I am missing.

I thought maybe doing the last optional acid scar mob would be the location of the level 15 chest. If it is, it was not from their little cubbie hole.

Oh well. Move on. Next!

Update 4 is not out yet.

[Modinator0]

what? I get like 10 gold and a masterwork weapon on tear of dhakaan! but then my loot sucks everywhere >.>

[donfilibuster]

Quests? I tought loot only dropped in rares and raids.

[suitepotato]

We've been clamoring for more named loot, if only just stuff that is cool sounding or looking for years.

We get quests with chests that are putting out loot of a level half that of the quest.

It's not even vendor junk anymore.

[MeToo]

I've only run this once on my level 13 character but my impression was that the weak end chest is meant to lure unprepared adventurers to their death. We all got rubbish from that chest but the real reward comes from the quest giver outside where a party member got a +5 Shock Mace of Pure Good. Maybe the quest is labeled level 15 on Normal but I don't think the loot was too bad for a quest that our makeshift, unbalanced group completed with minimal trouble. It wasn't a cakewalk, but I've had a significantly harder time completing some level 12 - 14 quests.

[ragwa1]

I had hoped that with the new update the end chest was upped in value.

Nope. A lovely level 6 weapon was the parting gift with some super 60 gold and 60 platinum.

Level 15 quest because the Acid Scar monsters are tough, but the loot is still equivalent to running Tear of Dhakaan on Normal. Maybe there is some secret room I am missing.

I thought maybe doing the last optional acid scar mob would be the location of the level 15 chest. If it is, it was not from their little cubbie hole.

Oh well. Move on. Next!

Did you ransack?

If you got a lvl 6 weapon that means you didn't.

I ran this quest last night and pulled a +4 metaline qstaff of backstabbing +3.

I ran it again today with monk end rewards on ad i pulled a +4 holy handwrap of weighted 2%, aswell as a +3 metalline handwrap.


I got exactly what I expected.

You just got some bad luck.

Everyone needs to NOT open chests before ransacking.

If you do open it before ransack you are ASKING for **** loot.

[Shade]

There's a way to get a bonus end chest in that quest, for a total of 2.

[ragwa1]

There's a way to get a bonus end chest in that quest, for a total of 2.

Exactly.

[rest]

Did you ransack?

If you got a lvl 6 weapon that means you didn't.

I ran this quest last night and pulled a +4 metaline qstaff of backstabbing +3.

I ran it again today with monk end rewards on ad i pulled a +4 holy handwrap of weighted 2%, aswell as a +3 metalline handwrap.


I got exactly what I expected.

You just got some bad luck.

Everyone needs to NOT open chests before ransacking.

If you do open it before ransack you are ASKING for **** loot.

I'm not quite sure you know what ransacking a chest means. You can't get ransacked unless you open the chest. And being ransacked is a bad thing. It lowers the chest's loot level. In addition, end rewards != chest loot. His post is talking about the loot from the chests, yours seems to be talking about end rewards.

[wamjratl1]

Did you ransack?

If you got a lvl 6 weapon that means you didn't.

I ran this quest last night and pulled a +4 metaline qstaff of backstabbing +3.

I ran it again today with monk end rewards on ad i pulled a +4 holy handwrap of weighted 2%, aswell as a +3 metalline handwrap.


I got exactly what I expected.

You just got some bad luck.

Everyone needs to NOT open chests before ransacking.

If you do open it before ransack you are ASKING for **** loot.


I'm not quite sure you know what ransacking a chest means. You can't get ransacked unless you open the chest. And being ransacked is a bad thing. It lowers the chest's loot level. In addition, end rewards != chest loot. His post is talking about the loot from the chests, yours seems to be talking about end rewards.

I can't wait to hear the response to this. If it's what I'm expecting, it's going to be good!

[ragwa1]

I can't wait to hear the response to this. If it's what I'm expecting, it's going to be good!

My responce?

Very simple.

Ransacking has to do with BREAKABLES.
Where in the world did you get the idea that chests were breakables?

Nuff said.

Beyond that, your a tad confusing.

The staff was end reward. The two wraps were not.

I was under the complete impression that breaking everything and attaining ransack UPS the loot in the chest, and I have prooven this over and over again with extensive testing.

So Agian, im confused. What are you talking about?

[Kaldais]

Both chests and end-rewards can be ransacked.

[wamjratl1]

My responce?

Very simple.

Ransacking has to do with BREAKABLES.
Where in the world did you get the idea that chests were breakables?

Nuff said.

Beyond that, your a tad confusing.

The staff was end reward. The two wraps were not.

I was under the complete impression that breaking everything and attaining ransack UPS the loot in the cest, and I have prooven this over and over again with extensive testing.

So Agian, im confused. What are you talking about?

You answered exactly as I thought you would. Let me explain:

The word "Ransack" is used a couple of times in the game. The first one applies to the bonus XP you get when breaking a certain amount of breakables in a dungeon. IN NO WAY does this affect your loot pulls. At all. You have not proven this after extensive testing because it simply is not true.

Ransack also refers to loot in that once you have opened the same chest a certain number of times in a week, you get no more loot from that chest, until your ransack timer resets. Completely unrelated to breakables.

You heard / read both terms and got confused. No biggie. Easy mistake. But please do not claimed to have proven something as fact when it simply isn't true.

[ragwa1]

You answered exactly as I thought you would. Let me explain:

The word "Ransack" is used a couple of times in the game. The first one applies to the bonus XP you get when breaking a certain amount of breakables in a dungeon. IN NO WAY does this affect your loot pulls. At all. You have not proven this after extensive testing because it simply is not true.

Ransack also refers to loot in that once you have opened the same chest a certain number of times in a week, you get no more loot from that chest, until your ransack timer resets. Completely unrelated to breakables.

You heard / read both terms and got confused. No biggie. Easy mistake. But please do not claimed to have proven something as fact when it simply isn't true.

Sorry, but my testing so preceeds your supposed knowledge.

Every single time I have put this theory to test, I have gotten higher lvl rewards and chest loot from having ransacked the quest.

You can say I'm wrong but the testing prooves otherwise.

[rimble]

Well this took an amusing turn...

[ssgtkeats]

Sorry, but my testing so preceeds your supposed knowledge.

Every single time I have put this theory to test, I have gotten higher lvl rewards and chest loot from having ransacked the quest.

You can say I'm wrong but the testing prooves otherwise.

Ah, I logged in after the edit. Anyway 3 months of testing (see join date, not that mine is that old either) proves him right. He also proved diploing works with his extensive testing

[ragwa1]

Ah, I logged in after the edit. Anyway 3 months of testing (see join date, not that mine is that old either) proves him right. He also proved diploing works with his extensive testing

You can be as sarcastic as you like.

I'll still be pulling great loot every quest while the majority of you will be stuck with your lvl 6 items on a lvl 15 quest.

Have a good one.

lol

[Talcyndl]

Sorry, but my testing so preceeds your supposed knowledge.

Every single time I have put this theory to test, I have gotten higher lvl rewards and chest loot from having ransacked the quest.

You can say I'm wrong but the testing prooves otherwise.

And one wonders how someone manages 3 red boxes in only 66 posts...

[ragwa1]

And one wonders how someone manages 3 red boxes in only 66 posts...

That's ok, guy. I understand your need to compare join dates.

It's just very sad, that's all.

[ssgtkeats]

I've only been playing this game for 3 months but I know more than you, and even though you're saying that the loot from a known unintentionally understocked quest sucks for you it works fine for me and I'm far superior to you in every way and breaking boxes makes my loot better than yours, even when I am ransacked on the chest, whatever that means I still ransacked the dungeon and the double ransack cancels out and makes super loot in every chest but only for me because I diplo the chests and have a fighter with an 83 diplo and 28 cha and 26 int for more skill points which I will put into: Diplo!.

But seriously, if you don't know what you're saying don't say that someone who has been playing the game more years than you have months is wrong. There's a whimsical/joking tone to this, but I still think you're dumb.
Edit : used the word your instead of you're, making myself dumb as well

[ragwa1]

But seriously, if you don't know what you're saying don't say that someone who has been playing the game more years than you have months is wrong. There's a whimsical/joking tone to this, but I still think you're dumb.
Edit : used the word your instead of you're, making myself dumb as well
Oh look, you can edit posts!

Everyone clap.

Say what you like. I'm still getting better loot then most of you.

[Talcyndl]

That's ok, guy. I understand your need to compare join dates.

It's just very sad, that's all.

Lol...and now the boxes are gone. But the misinformation remains.

[wamjratl1]

Say what you like. I'm still getting better loot then most of you.

Screenshots please, of your uber loot.

Oh, and please describe to us your extensive testing process. How did you come to figure out what would have been in the chest had you not ransacked the breakables?

[stricq]

Yes, very good question.

[ragwa1]

Lol...and now the boxes are gone. But the misinformation remains.

That would be so that people such as yourself don't have forum rep to rely on when trying to dig up a good responce.

[ragwa1]

Screenshots please, of your uber loot.

Oh, and please describe to us your extensive testing process. How did you come to figure out what would have been in the chest had you not ransacked the breakables?

Did Your logic just fly out the window?

[wamjratl1]

Did Your logic just fly out the window?

No. But apparently your ability to prove anything (other than that what you spout is utter nonsense) has. Again, as expected.

[Talcyndl]

That would be so that people such as yourself don't have forum rep to rely on when trying to dig up a good responce.

Lol.

Perhaps you should view the amount of negative rep you earned in such a short time as a lesson. Namely, that you should take a step back and realize that the things you think are true, are not in fact true.

Just a suggestion.

[Tharlak]

This has thread of the week potential.

[ragwa1]

Lol.

Perhaps you should view the amount of negative rep you earned in such a short time as a lesson. Namely, that you should take a step back and realize that the things you think are true, are not in fact true.

Just a suggestion.

Just call me Shade mark II

[ssgtkeats]

I promise not to make fun of your red boxes or join date anymore if you bring them back, newer players need these there to warn them that anything you say is dubious at best and more likely complete misinformation. Can we still be friends so I can go on your uber loot runs? Please?

[ragwa1]

I promise not to make fun of your red boxes or join date anymore if you bring them back, newer players need these there to warn them that anything you say is dubious at best and more likely complete misinformation. Can we still be friends so I can go on your uber loot runs? Please?

Sorry, ssgtkeats.

You're just not leet enough for the likes of me.

[gavagai]

Because this topic seems to come up, let's go back to sources.

Here is a quote from a Dev stating that the only way to improve your loot is either by a DDO Store loot booster or by having an admin increasing the loot table.


Only thing that affects chests are admins or the estore but just for you, no other person or person effects can affect your loot.

The "Ransack" theory, the "diplomacy" theory, and all other fabrications are simply that: ways people tease each other into believing nonsense.

[ragwa1]

Because this topic seems to come up, let's go back to sources.

Here is a quote from a Dev stating that the only way to improve your loot is either by a DDO Store loot booster or by having an admin increasing the loot table.



The "Ransack" theory, the "diplomacy" theory, and all other fabrications are simply that: ways people tease each other into believing nonsense.

Who the heck said anything about diplo? That's completely absurd.

[kieljs]

Because this topic seems to come up, let's go back to sources.

Here is a quote from a Dev stating that the only way to improve your loot is either by a DDO Store loot booster or by having an admin increasing the loot table.



The "Ransack" theory, the "diplomacy" theory, and all other fabrications are simply that: ways people tease each other into believing nonsense.

Well there you go posting facts. Dang, you might derail this whole thread.

[Emili]

I had hoped that with the new update the end chest was upped in value.

Nope. A lovely level 6 weapon was the parting gift with some super 60 gold and 60 platinum.

Level 15 quest because the Acid Scar monsters are tough, but the loot is still equivalent to running Tear of Dhakaan on Normal. Maybe there is some secret room I am missing.

I thought maybe doing the last optional acid scar mob would be the location of the level 15 chest. If it is, it was not from their little cubbie hole.

Oh well. Move on. Next!

:confused:

OH? right now, well see it be this ... that was a level 16 weapon, 600.000 gold and 60.000 platinum in that chest... but by the time you openned it the acidic nature of the quest had bloody errode the reward down a tad. ;)

[SableShadow]

Who the heck said anything about diplo? That's completely absurd.

People don't account for a lot of things when they "notice" stuff in game (or in life, for that matter). Myths get started, reinforced by biases, and become legend.

[clanqui]

Well. At least it's original. :D

[Deathseeker]

Sorry, but my testing so preceeds your supposed knowledge.

Every single time I have put this theory to test, I have gotten higher lvl rewards and chest loot from having ransacked the quest.

You can say I'm wrong but the testing prooves otherwise.

Rag,

I'll leave out any flaming or poking fun and take this seriously. As this would be a finding that would be a major importance to the community, could you expand upon the testing you have done?

For example, several people spent a lot of time testing their theory that Concordant Opp does not stack, and it provided great value to the community. If you could expand upon the testing you've done to help others, that would be great.

If you are not comfortable doing this, then you should not be so assertive in your position. It is clear your view here is quite contradictory to both the community at large and even previous dev posts. However, as we have seen in the past, sometimes dev posts are proven to be wrong (or outdated). But to have any credability and to be taken seriously you should be willing to provide actual data and not just "cuz every time I pull loot it's uber".

Ok, that was a nice and civil way of saying it. If you can't respond in kind, then I think you are simply hurting your credability. Let's see if maybe you are onto something. And if not, you should embrace the fact that you are learning something new as opposed to being offended by it.

[UnderwearModel]

Well there you go posting facts. Dang, you might derail this whole thread.

Did I buy Jewel of TP Wasting when they first appeared? You bet.

Did I get anything better by running some quests and hoping for the better loot? Nope. Titan Raid, Hound Raid, the desert for Ring of Spell Storing, Firestorm Greaves, and Bloodstone, and a myriad of Vale quests and the loot was as usual.

When I finally used up the last Jewel of Torture I vowed to never waste TP on that again.

Back to the Acid Wit lack of loot

I was not ransacked, because it was the first time I had done it on this character.

My Acid Wit loot was
Chest Loot
+1 Greater Ice Lore Dagger, level 6.

My end reward was vendor trash but it was better than the chest loot.

[Alanim]

Actually, my extensive testing shows that ransacking actually makes your loot WORSE, since you're taking all the loot from the quest, meaning there will be almost none in the chest, I've put this to the test ATLEAST three times, so don't try to deny it.

I don't have anything written down, or screenshots, but hey, if you want to get crappy level 6 loot from a level 15 quest, fine by me ransackers.

/troll off

I've run this quest various times, aswell as delirium, always ransacking, and the claims he makes are pretty absurd, in no way does it make your loot any better.(since I've recently had a terrible dry spell, when I used to pull great stuff from there and it's not ransacked.)

also, this quest gives great end-rewards. I don't remember much about the chest, but if I recall it WAS garbage.

[ragwa1]

Rag,

I'll leave out any flaming or poking fun and take this seriously. As this would be a finding that would be a major importance to the community, could you expand upon the testing you have done?

For example, several people spent a lot of time testing their theory that Concordant Opp does not stack, and it provided great value to the community. If you could expand upon the testing you've done to help others, that would be great.

If you are not comfortable doing this, then you should not be so assertive in your position. It is clear your view here is quite contradictory to both the community at large and even previous dev posts. However, as we have seen in the past, sometimes dev posts are proven to be wrong (or outdated). But to have any credability and to be taken seriously you should be willing to provide actual data and not just "cuz every time I pull loot it's uber".

Ok, that was a nice and civil way of saying it. If you can't respond in kind, then I think you are simply hurting your credability. Let's see if maybe you are onto something. And if not, you should embrace the fact that you are learning something new as opposed to being offended by it.

Finally,

An intelligent poster.

Testing as follows:

After running acid wit a total of 24 times, 12 of which were fully ransacked, whilst the other 12 not touching a single breakable.
Notable loot below:

Ransacked(Chest loot):
+2 weakening rapier of pure good
+2 weakening handwraps of bonebreaking
+4 metalline kama of backstabbing(+3)
+3 acid guard myth fullplate of greater fire resistance
+4 flaming burst composite bow
armoured bracers +6
Ring of heavy fortification
Wise helm(+5) of Eloquence
Various gems pp and gold as per-usual.

Ransacked(End reward):
+4 holy handwraps of weighted(2%) - Monk end reward on
+3 weakening rapier of lawful outsider bane - Monk end reward off
Deathblock outfit of heavy fortification - Monk end reward on
+5 holy kama - Monk end reward on
+4 holy burst kama - Monk end reward on
+3 metalline qstaff of backstabbing(+3) - Monk end reward on
+3 Frost kama of improoved destruction - Monk end reward off
*Alot of other items were OK, but nothing I would sell on the AH.

NOT Ransacked(Chest loot):
+2 holy longsword
+1 Flaming sickle of deception
+4 longsword
+5 fullplate
+2 anarchaic burst battleaxe of enfeebling
And a ton of gems gems gems.
*Nothing else was worth mentioning... Not saying these were either.

NOT Ransacked(End reward):
+2 lesser ice guard halfplate of stability
+5 dwarven axe
+2 holy greatsword of shatter
ring of featherfalling
*Nothing else worth mentioning.

Yes, I write down all loot from every quest(disregarding gem types/potions/collectabls etc etc).

It's a tad nerdy, yes. But I like knowing how mechanics work in every game that I play. This includes, but is not limited to Loot tables/drop rates.

I decided to test if maybe my drop rates in regards to ransacking or not were indeed, just coincidence.

So I thought of "Invaders", due to the fact that there are no breakables to smash, and only two chests and an end reward.
12 runs.
Testing below:

Chest loot:
featherfalling boots of featherfall(lol)
+4 docent
+3 chainshirt of silentmoves
+2 bastard sword of puregood
+5 greataxe
collapsable hole
And a bunch of sp elixers

End reward loot:
+1 int tome
+4 studded leather of everbright
+1 True chaos handaxe of everbright
+1 dex tome
*the rest was, well... Not as good as these, lol.

These are not the only quests that I have noticed this reoccuring theme.

In conclusion, I have in my experience found that I receive better chest loot/end rewards based on the amount of breakables smashed through-out each quest.

Yes I played the arsehat card this whole thread, but I wasn't too impressed by the low level of intelligence projected in my direction from the get-go.

Sorry to have be-fouled any of your feelings towards me as a poster. But, I have seen and tested my theory unlike most others who just spout off.
Could just be a big coincidence on the drops, but it always seemed a tad fishy to me.

[Kaldais]

I somehow smell a Troll...

Where is my flaming burst club of greater troll bane?

[Angelus_dead]

After running acid wit a total of 24 times, 12 of which were fully ransacked, whilst the other 12 not touching a single breakable.
Wow, what a lot of characters you must have to have been able to control for the opening counter!

[ragwa1]

I somehow smell a Troll...

Where is my flaming burst club of greater troll bane?

I smell an instigator.

[Creeper]

who The Heck Said Anything About Diplo? That's Completely Absurd.

Not Treu!

Diplomaceys Works On Chsts And End Reward> I Hve Tested It Mysef>
See Join Dates____>

Ransaking Does Not Efect Loots> Tht Is Just So Totally Stuped Ideas And Completly Absurded>>>

[Creeper]

Proof of beter loot on diplomacyies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5vnt3VYCC4

[Vordax]

blah blah blah

Screenshots please, there is no way that anyone can take some one with low rep and recent join date at their word without proof. In addition this is a very very small sample size.

Vordax

[Josh]

You can be as sarcastic as you like.

I'll still be pulling great loot every quest while the majority of you will be stuck with your lvl 6 items on a lvl 15 quest.

Have a good one.

lol

Noob

[Mentor61]

Finally,

An intelligent poster.

Testing as follows:

After running acid wit a total of 24 times, 12 of which were fully ransacked, whilst the other 12 not touching a single breakable.
Notable loot below:

Ransacked(Chest loot):
+2 weakening rapier of pure good
+2 weakening handwraps of bonebreaking
+4 metalline kama of backstabbing(+3)
+3 acid guard myth fullplate of greater fire resistance
+4 flaming burst composite bow
armoured bracers +6
Ring of heavy fortification
Wise helm(+5) of Eloquence
Various gems pp and gold as per-usual.

Ransacked(End reward):
+4 holy handwraps of weighted(2%) - Monk end reward on
+3 weakening rapier of lawful outsider bane - Monk end reward off
Deathblock outfit of heavy fortification - Monk end reward on
+5 holy kama - Monk end reward on
+4 holy burst kama - Monk end reward on
+3 metalline qstaff of backstabbing(+3) - Monk end reward on
+3 Frost kama of improoved destruction - Monk end reward off
*Alot of other items were OK, but nothing I would sell on the AH.

NOT Ransacked(Chest loot):
+2 holy longsword
+1 Flaming sickle of deception
+4 longsword
+5 fullplate
+2 anarchaic burst battleaxe of enfeebling
And a ton of gems gems gems.
*Nothing else was worth mentioning... Not saying these were either.

NOT Ransacked(End reward):
+2 lesser ice guard halfplate of stability
+5 dwarven axe
+2 holy greatsword of shatter
ring of featherfalling
*Nothing else worth mentioning.

Yes, I write down all loot from every quest(disregarding gem types/potions/collectabls etc etc).

It's a tad nerdy, yes. But I like knowing how mechanics work in every game that I play. This includes, but is not limited to Loot tables/drop rates.

I decided to test if maybe my drop rates in regards to ransacking or not were indeed, just coincidence.

So I thought of "Invaders", due to the fact that there are no breakables to smash, and only two chests and an end reward.
12 runs.
Testing below:

Chest loot:
featherfalling boots of featherfall(lol)
+4 docent
+3 chainshirt of silentmoves
+2 bastard sword of puregood
+5 greataxe
collapsable hole
And a bunch of sp elixers

End reward loot:
+1 int tome
+4 studded leather of everbright
+1 True chaos handaxe of everbright
+1 dex tome
*the rest was, well... Not as good as these, lol.

These are not the only quests that I have noticed this reoccuring theme.

In conclusion, I have in my experience found that I receive better chest loot/end rewards based on the amount of breakables smashed through-out each quest.

Yes I played the arsehat card this whole thread, but I wasn't too impressed by the low level of intelligence projected in my direction from the get-go.

Sorry to have be-fouled any of your feelings towards me as a poster. But, I have seen and tested my theory unlike most others who just spout off.
Could just be a big coincidence on the drops, but it always seemed a tad fishy to me.

Wooooooow congratulations on pulling all the garbage off your server for a day,so which of these pieces of turd will you equip on logout to impress people?

[ragwa1]

Screenshots please, there is no way that anyone can take some one with low rep and recent join date at their word without proof. In addition this is a very very small sample size.

Vordax

Yeah, Good idea. But I'm not screen shotting 25+ items and then imageshacking them onto a forum.

Nice try at refuting my claims though.


Noob

Ok, Josh.

[ragwa1]

Wooooooow congratulations on pulling all the garbage off your server for a day,so which of these pieces of turd will you equip on logout to impress people?

You see, your post would have sounded intelligent had I been refering to high lvl raid loot.

Anyways,

My posted items etc, were directed at Deathseeker since he so nicely responded.

TBH, The rest of you.... lol.

[Hokiewa]

ahaha....really, you're an idiot.....

[Vordax]

Yeah, Good idea. But I'm not screen shotting 25+ items and then imageshacking them onto a forum.

Nice try at refuting my claims though.


But you will spend the time to write all your loot options down.. Hmm... I call shenanigans.

BTW Claim refuted.

Vordax

[Vordax]

ahaha....really, you're an idiot.....

QFT

Vordax

[Aristalla]

Proof of beter loot on diplomacyies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5vnt3VYCC4

That made my night. Thank you.

[Crazyfruit]

There's a way to get a bonus end chest in that quest, for a total of 2.

How do you get the 2nd chest in there?

If it's the ambush, is it located somewhere out of the way?

[kurand]

I actually made it half way through page two before i realized I was getting dumber.

[Xaearth]

There's a way to get a bonus end chest in that quest, for a total of 2.


Acid Wit

* The Troglodytes have amassed more wealth in their efforts. Perhaps some brave adventurers can take it from them.
* The rare encounters should be a little less rare now.

Haven't ran this until after the update, but seems from the comments here there used to be just 2 chests at the end. One for completion and one for the optional?

Ran it just now on hard, got 3 chests after killing the troglodyte theurge (completion) and a 4th for the optional... 3 of the 4 seemed to have level appropriate loot, the 4th had a major mem pot and a diamond, but heck I'm not complaining.

So... what's this about rares? :confused:

PS: Watching "vengeance-seeking troglodytes" run off a cliff into a max-emp-crit firewall like lemmings is HILARIOUS. :D