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Bloodhaven

03-09-2010, 04:30 PM

Bloodhaven

03-09-2010, 04:35 PM

Any regular raid items are available and even a limited number of +3 tomes.

Diarden

03-09-2010, 04:36 PM

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=198820

I leveled this build to 20. I have 520hp currently unbuffed, I can get to 75AC self buffed, and evasion. Also, with GTWF I deal massive damage, and can reconstruct myself with scrolls. It is a great build to look over, however, very gear intensive.

Cyr

03-09-2010, 04:38 PM

Are you talking no buffs?

Diarden

03-09-2010, 04:45 PM

I think he's talking self buffed

WeaselKing

03-09-2010, 04:48 PM

500+ HP evasion and 74+ ac self buffed Possible?

This guy also needs to be able to deal damage.

I am looking to build something like this but not sure where the best place to start is.

My ranger has just under 400 hp with evasion and the ac but I want 100 more hp's

Discuss.

I have a Warforged 12 fighter/6 paladin/2 monk Stalwart Defender II/Knight of the Chalice I that pretty much fits the bill. With a full paladin around I can hit about 72 AC fairly easily and I have up to 65 dr blocking and an intimidate in the mid-60s to make use of it.

Cyr

03-09-2010, 04:49 PM

I think he's talking self buffed

Okay assuming he is.

OP, see my sig toon's first lineage. The stat's listed there are no buffs going at all including CE. She also could have had 40 more permanent hit points with no gear losses from epic gear and lotd as well as 3 higher AC (maybe 4 would have to think more about that though). That would put her at 423 + 40 + 40 (yugo) = 503 and with rage and madstone higher or just madstone higher. If I redid her now in the same manner with 36 point build and past lives it would look even better :)

Diarden

03-09-2010, 04:54 PM

I have a Warforged 12 fighter/6 paladin/2 monk Stalwart Defender II/Knight of the Chalice I that pretty much fits the bill. With a full paladin around I can hit about 72 AC fairly easily and I have up to 65 dr blocking and an intimidate in the mid-60s to make use of it.

Please explain how you pull off 65 blocking DR? I am quite interested to see that.

Cyr

03-09-2010, 04:56 PM

Please explain how you pull off 65 blocking DR? I am quite interested to see that.

20 docent of defiance + PrE stuff + feats + raid tower shield...it get's up there pretty fast.

Shade

03-09-2010, 04:58 PM

Please explain how you pull off 65 blocking DR? I am quite interested to see that.

It's not possible, he probably doesn't understand DR stacking rules.
Max is around 45-50 currently. And thats using a Titantic Docent clicky, or Paladin's Glorious stand, both of which are very short duration abilities.

Visty

03-09-2010, 04:58 PM

Please explain how you pull off 65 blocking DR? I am quite interested to see that.

12 bab/2+2
20 DoD
06 feats
15 shield
04 stalwart
=
57 blocking dr

almost^^

Visty

03-09-2010, 04:59 PM

It's not possible, he probably doesn't understand DR stacking rules.
Max is around 45-50 currently. And thats using a Titantic Docent clicky, or Paladin's Glorious stand, both of which are very short duration abilities.

wrong, see my post above this

Cyr

03-09-2010, 05:02 PM

12 bab/2+2
20 DoD
06 feats
15 shield
04 stalwart
=
57 blocking dr

almost^^

Good call I didn't bother doing the full math... 12 bab/2 +2?

Diarden

03-09-2010, 05:04 PM

But that kind of DR is very situational and not long-term. I never look at short duration clickies to justify certain stats, like AC or DR.

One can say they can get up to 120+ AC, but using 20 second clickie buffs to obtain said levels does not matter in the middle of a boss fight.

Delacroix21

03-09-2010, 05:04 PM

The OP stated he intends to deal damage, so the sword and board figures are out of the question. I know one of the builds posted it has TWF, but its AC numbers are based off sword and board so it wont work.

I think he is looking for a TWF dex based/monk splash.

Cyr

03-09-2010, 05:06 PM

Diarden

03-09-2010, 05:06 PM

Yeah, unfortunately I can only get about 65-70 AC self buffed dual weilding with my build... however, there is so much you can do with it, it is ultimately worth it.

I have soloed Reaver Elite with that build, and working on some other raids. VoD is my next raid in line to solo.

Visty

03-09-2010, 05:08 PM

valorik

03-09-2010, 05:13 PM

here's one of my favoiret hate tank builsd that hits all teh benchmarks you mention

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=213144

redraider

03-09-2010, 05:17 PM

The Mobster - Best all around non-WF melee. 500+ hps and 90+ raid buffed AC. GTWF DPS mode. S&B Intim/tanking Mode.

The Mobster has all the goods!

Bloodhaven

03-09-2010, 05:17 PM

im asking about self buffed no short term buffs, Haste from shroud is about as low on time i'm willing to go for self buffs.

Delacroix21

03-09-2010, 05:21 PM

Yup like the one I posted :)

I dont see any build posted by you. :(

Visty

03-09-2010, 05:22 PM

Good call I didn't bother doing the full math... 12 bab/2 +2?

just saw your edit

bab20/2=10+2=12

Cyr

03-09-2010, 05:25 PM

I dont see any build posted by you. :(

Nope just a toon link ;) If you can't figure it out from that then your out of luck and Visty what does the bab stand for? I am scratching my head over that.

WeaselKing

03-09-2010, 05:29 PM

Its been a little while since I played him, the 65 might have been with the Titanic docent, I don't recall offhand. That still leaves it at 55 most of the time and 43 all the time.

captain1z

03-09-2010, 05:37 PM

im asking about self buffed no short term buffs, Haste from shroud is about as low on time i'm willing to go for self buffs.

500 hp and 74 AC plus evasion & deals damage is possible.

My 18 pali/ 2 monk currently has 460 hp w/o a minos legens helm. AC self buffs to 66 with party help can get to 74 and I created it off 28 pts (well drow so kind of a 32). Once I TR or come across some +3 tomes or get some better gear all of the things u r looking for are possible.

I'd start there. 32pt pali/monk super twinked and later TR exceeds all you are asking for.

Bloodhaven

03-09-2010, 06:13 PM

I am thinking of making this into a human. 36 point build.

Big RockCandy the Mountain
Warforged ac intimitank
18 fighter/2 rogue, Stalwart Defender

Constructed with sugar, spice, and an eye for raid tanking, this hulking green brute is just the character to catch the attention (and appetite) of devils, demons, and other nasty bosses.

Using the stalwart defender PRE line, this 18 fighter/2 rogue build is supremely survivable. With a potential for 90+ AC in a raid party, evasion, standing DR 6/- with a shield (more blocking, of course), intimidate in the 70s, and the ability to be reconstructed through most (though not all) healing curses, she makes a mean raid tank. But that’s not all! This wall of warforged is more flexible than she appears. When intimitanking isn’t needed, she has greater two weapon fighting with khopeshes, power attack, enough UMD for nofail reconstruct scrolls and shield 10 wands, and pick lock just for fun!

Fun, flexible, mean and green, this tank can take advantage of mod 9’s new enhancement and armor offerings to defeat Eberron’s unlimited foes.

This character met my expectations within two weeks of creation, and is now level 20 preparing for TR to 34 point build. AC ranges between 60 and a high of ~95 (no tumbling fudging the numbers, either)

STATS

36 STR: 16 base + 2 tome + 2 enhancements + 6 item + 5 levels + 1 litany + 4 stance
30 DEX: 16 base + 3 tome + 1 litany + 1 enhancement + 6 item + 3 exceptional
32 CON: 16 base + 2 tome + 1 litany + 1 exceptional + 2 enhancement + 6 item + 4 stance
14 INT: 11 + 2 tome + 1 litany
8 WIS: 6 base + 1 tome + 1 litany
18 CHA: 9 base + 2 tome + 1 litany + 6 item

LEVELING GUIDE

Rogue levels at 1 and 8. I liked having evasion for gianthold. To maximize skill points, take rogue later.

Selected feats:

1 - Mithral body
3 - Toughness
6 - Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
9 - Skill focus: Intimidate
12 - Bullheaded (Or Stunning Blow)
15 - (SF: UMD or Two weapon defense until +3 dex tome) Mithral fluidity
18 - Mithral fluidity (Past life: Fighter, if a reroll)

Fighter Feats:

2 fighter - Two weapon fighting
3 fighter - Weapon focus: Slashing
5 fighter - Weapon specialization: Slashing
7 fighter - Improved two weapon fighting
10 fighter - Improved critical: slashing
12 fighter - Greater two weapon fighting
14 fighter - Power Attack
16 fighter - Combat Expertise
18 fighter - Dodge
20 fighter - Greater weapon specialization: Slashing

Rogue feats:
8 (rogue) [evasion]

ARMOR CLASS BREAKDOWN

#1 Sword and Board:
10 base
5 mithral body
7 dragontouched docent
10 dex bonus w/ mithral fluidity, Armor Mastery 3, and Tower Shield Mastery3
1 alchemical docent
9 mithral tower shield
1 alchemical shield
3 dodge sovreign rune
4 insight shroud
2 chaosguardes
5 protection
1 dodge feat
3 Stalwart defender III
5 Combat expertise
4 stalwart defender stance
2 stalwart defender set bonus
72 beholder AC

3 barkskin pot
1 haste clickie returner
76 typical self-buffed AC

2 ranger 12 barkskin
4 Inspire Heroics "AC song"
2 Recitation
5 Paladin aura
1 Defender of Siberys Aura
90 raid-buffed AC
95 shield blocking AC

#2 Two weapon fighting DPS mode:
-10 tower shield + ritual
-5 combat expertise
+4 shield wand
65 solo to 79 party DPS mode

SKILLS:

Intimidate:
23 Ranks
6 Greensteel
6 Stalwart Defender III
4 Charisma modifier
15 Competence item
4 Fighter intimidate IV
3 Skill focus: Intimidate
2 Bullheaded or past life: Fighter
4 Greater Heroism
1 Yugoloth Charisma potion
----
68 intimidate (+2 bard, +2 monk, +1 luck - 71)

Use Magic Device:
23 Ranks
6 Greensteel
4 Charisma modifier
3 Vile blasphemy gloves
3 Skill focus: UMD
4 Greater Heroism
---
42 UMD

Hit Points:
20 Heroic Durability
10 Draconic favor
12 Rogue II
180 Fighter 18
73 Toughness + Fighter toughness III + racial toughness II
30 Greater False Life
45 Greensteel
220 11 con modifier
---
40 yugoloth potion
630 HP [650 in minos legens] (730 potential with madstone boots)

SUGGESTED EQUIPMENT

Mineral II khopesh with +4 insight (as well as other shroud weapons - lightning 2 khopeshes for max DPS)

Levik's shield with AC ritual
[epic shield with +7 enhancement bonus]

Dragontouched Docent - Greater false life / +1 dex / Dodge +3
also one with GFL / 20% healing amp / Destruction
Bracers: Chaosguardes with resistance ritual
Goggles: +6 cha skills / air guard (swap for Tharne's in DPS mode)
Helmet: Minos legens [Epic Shining Crest of St. Markus]
Necklace: Stalwart defender - 6 con, Lesser action boost, set bonus +2 AC
Trinket: Litany of the Dead
Cloak: Wretched Twilight
Belt: 45 HP Mineral II +5 protection / heavy fortification
Gloves: Vile Blasphemy (6 dex, +3 umd) [Epic Spectral Gloves]
Boots: Swap - Firestorm greaves, Striders, Spiked Boots, [Epic] Golden Greaves (DR/3 [4]), Boots of Anchoring
Ring1- Stalwart defender +6 strength +1 con +2 dex
Ring2- Circle of Hatred (resist 5 / intimidate 15)

ENHANCEMENTS

Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Tower Shield Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I

WeaselKing

03-09-2010, 06:19 PM

All the time when blocking from the front:

7 improved dr feats/enhancements (passive)

11 (bab/2) + 2 (active) (I could be using divine power or some other such bab completing spell for 1 more)
15 Levik's Shield (active)
4 Stalwart Defender II (active)
6 Shield Mastery/Imp. shield mastery (active)

43

With DoD proc in effect:

56 (13 more passive)

With Titanic:

66 (30 sec at a time I think) (10 more passive)

So, I should have said 56 dr, the titanic boost doesn't really count.

Quikster

03-09-2010, 06:32 PM

Nope just a toon link ;) If you can't figure it out from that then your out of luck and Visty what does the bab stand for? I am scratching my head over that.

Base Attack Bonus. Which is used to figure blocking dr.

Xyfiel

03-09-2010, 07:47 PM

And if you are really nuts...
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2541875&postcount=1

Bloodhaven

03-09-2010, 08:35 PM

And if you are really nuts...
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2541875&postcount=1

WOW! Sofar you win ;)

Bloodhaven

03-09-2010, 08:50 PM

+10 hp for tr barb X1 and +60 hp for base 12 con, moving 2 points from int and getting more points from 36 point build.

Hps:
10 Barbarian TR 1
20 base
10 draconic vitality
30 greater false life
45 shroud item
20 minos legens
110 toughness*5
40 toughness IV
20 racial toughness
120 fighter base
48 monk base
20 paladin base
120 con
10 way of the tortoise II
20 yugo con pot
663
20 store pot
683

Bloodhaven

03-10-2010, 12:17 AM

OK this is another slightly modified concept.

Bloodpact after TR barbarian.

TR Ranger 1 Barb 1

36 point
Elf Fighter12/monk6/pal2

Gear I need to obtain befor rolling this guy:

<Need> +3 con
<Need> +3 Str
<Need> +3 Cha
<Need> holy +3 wis mineral II kama, holy +1 dex +4ac lightning II kama
<Need> 2 min II scimitars for full dps mode
<Need> Circle of hatred, berserker ring
<Need> goggles: 6 cha skills air guard
<Need> necklace: 45 hps +6 wisdom concordonant opposition
<Need> belt: con +6 greater false life berserker
<Need> 20 Epic quest tokens BTA
<Need> Shard of the Spectral Gloves

[30/36]14str +3enh+3tome+6item +1 Level +3Defender

stance/+2ring+2madstone+2yugo pot
[38]17dex +2enh+3tome+2Wind stance+8items+4levels+2yugo pot
[24]12con +3tome+3Defender stance+6item-2Wind stance+2yugo pot
[20]12int +2tome+6item(as needed for runes)
[30]14wis +3tome+2enh+9items+2yugo pot
[26]14cha +3tome+1enh+6item+2yugo pot

Feats:
1 Monk.....1 base..1 class Bullheaded/Dodge
2 Fighter..0 base..1 Class Two weapon fighting
3 Monk.....1 base..1 class Past Life: Berserkers Fury/Toughness
4 Monk.....0 base..0 class N/A
5 Fighter..0 base..1 class Power Attack
6 Paliden..1 base..0 class Combat Expertise
7 Fighter..0 base..0 class N/A
8 Monk.....0 base..0 class N/A
9 Paliden..1 base..0 class Improved Critical: Slash
10 Monk....0 base..0 class N/A
11 Fighter 0 base..1 Class Improved Two Weapon Fighting
12 Fighter 1 base..0 class Skill Focus Intimidate
13 Fighter 0 base..1 class Greater Two Weapon Fighting
14 Fighter 0 base..0 class N/A
15 Fighter 1 base..1 class Skill Focus Umd/Two Weapon Defense
16 Fighter 0 base..0 class N/A
17 Fighter 0 base..1 class Weapon Focus Slashing
18 Monk....1 base..1 class Toughness/Toughness
19 Fighter 0 base..0 class N/A
20 Fighter 0 base..1 class Weapon Specialization Slashing
TOTAL......7 base..10 class

Skills:
[41]umd: 11ranks+6shroud item+4gh+5gloves+3feat+8cha+2luck+2walk of the
sun
[72/74]intimidate: 23ranks+6shroud item+4gh+15ring+3enh+2bullheaded+3skill focus+8cha+4defender+2luck+2walk of the sun+2bard
[43]balance: 23ranks+14dex+4gh+2luck
[39]jump: 23ranks+10str+4gh+2luck
[38/68]hide: 3ranks+14dex+15item+4gh+2luck+10camo scroll+20invis clicky
[26]concentration: 14ranks+4con+4gh+2luck+2tortoise

AC:
10 base
4 deflection
5 combat expertise
1 dodge
3 chattering ring
1 haste
4 insight
14 dex
10 wis
1 aura
2 centered
3 defender stance
2 defender dodge
8 bracers
1 two weapon defense
5 icy rainments with alchemical
69 Beholder mode
4 shield wand
4 nat(yugo pot) or +3 Bark pot
77 dps mode, 82 tank mode
1 natural(barkskin)
5 aura(defender III)
4 inspire heroics
2 recitation
2 blocking
1 deflection(shield of faith)
90 dps raid buffed, 97 turtle mode raid buffed
+2 store pots dex/wis
1 haste air guard
100 non boosts potential

Hps:
10 Barbarian TR 1
20 base
120 fighter base
48 monk base
20 paladin base
140 con mod +7
10 draconic vitality
30 greater false life
45 shroud item
20 minos legens
66 toughness*3
20 Past Life: Berserkers Fury
40 toughness IV
20 racial toughness
10 way of the tortoise II
619
20 yugo con pot
20 store pot
659

To hit:
20 bab
12 str
1 haste
5 weapon
1 weapon focus
2 walk of the sun
-2 twf
-5 expertise/power attack
9 inspire courage/competence
43 hate tanking
1 str
2 flanking
5 tharnes
2 Valenar enh
-2 twf(scimitars)
51 full dps mode

Saves: 41 fortitude, 45 reflex, 44 will +4 vs enchantments
8/4/4 fighter base
5/5/5 monk base
3/0/0 paladin base
1/1/1 aura
5/5/5 resist
4/5/4 gh and haste
8/8/8 divine grace
4/14/10 stats
1/1/1 alc
2/2/2 defender stance
2/2/2 luck
2/2/2 walk of the sun
-4/-4/0 yugo pots

Enhancements:
Elf: dex II, valenar attack II
Fighter: str III, item defense I, AC boost II, haste boost IV, extra

boost I, Intimidate III, toughness IV
Monk: wind II, water I, fists of light, improved recovery I, tortoise

II, wis II
Paladin: cha I

Items:
holy +3 wis mineral II kama, holy +1 dex +4ac lightning II kama
2 min II scimitars for full dps mode
helm: minos legens
ring: intimidate +15/resist +5 circle of hatred, berserker ring
ring2: chattering ring
goggles: 6 cha skills air guard/tharnes
necklace: 45 hps +6 wisdom concordonant opposition
trinket: head of good fortune
gloves: Epic Spectral Gloves +7 Dex with +6 Str swapped with seven
fingered as needed
belt: con +6 greater false life berserker
armor: icy rainments
cloak: +6 cha
Bracers: AC 8 Bracers

WeaselKing

03-10-2010, 05:00 PM

Cyr

03-10-2010, 05:08 PM

Base Attack Bonus. Which is used to figure blocking dr.

lol and this is why I don't build any blocking toons. Just not my area of expertise. I had no idea it was based upon BAB at all. I thought it was a static bonus. So formula is BAB/2 +2 then?

Cyr

03-10-2010, 05:12 PM

And if you are really nuts...
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2541875&postcount=1

That is a really neat build. In fact I might steal it for my fighter run on my TR.

Xyfiel

03-10-2010, 06:34 PM

That build probably has some errors in it and needs updated for epic loot. Of course going 36 point build and starting with 12 con means you could have one of the following depending what you liked more:
greater weapon focus and spec
2 dragonmarks for self cast invis and displacement
2 of the toughness feats
shield mastery feats