Implosion

[Lighti]

At the moment this spell is not exactly great. look at casters, they have wail of the banshee with a short cool down and a mass radius. Ok Implosion has a mass radius aswell, but it only kills 1 mob at a time!! surly this can't be right, this limits the amount of mob you can kill in 1 go with it. Can you either change it so all mobs around you have to make a save at the same time OR lower the cooldown OR increase the time limit/make it extendable.

Doing any of these will start to bring healers a bit closer to casters instead of just/Blade Barriering allthe time

Light

[blitzschlag]

At the moment this spell is not exactly great. look at casters, they have wail of the banshee with a short cool down and a mass radius. Ok Implosion has a mass radius aswell, but it only kills 1 mob at a time!! surly this can't be right, this limits the amount of mob you can kill in 1 go with it. Can you either change it so all mobs around you have to make a save at the same time OR lower the cooldown OR increase the time limit/make it extendable.

Doing any of these will start to bring healers a bit closer to casters instead of just/Blade Barriering allthe time

Light

um, in what way is a cleric/fvs behind a arcane caster? you have to be kidding? i rather drop 2 bladebarriers than using implosion. implosion stops to be that good in amrath and later anyway...

[Lighti]

It is a nice spell for looting when doing things such as Vale, but at the moment the most amount of mobs you can kill with it is about 5 and thats if they all fail the save 1st time

[blitzschlag]

It is a nice spell for looting when doing things such as Vale, but at the moment the most amount of mobs you can kill with it is about 5 and thats if they all fail the save 1st time

there is just 3 mobs in vale that don't die like flies in a bladbarrier. troglodyte rangers, troglodyte shaman and the rakshasa named guy. as those don't come in swarms its mostly easier to pick em off with destruction.

my comments on blade barrier are unfortunately only true and viable if you have empower+maximize+heighten or at least maximize. but even the halfling-healbot should carry that around...

[sirgog]

It is a nice spell for looting when doing things such as Vale, but at the moment the most amount of mobs you can kill with it is about 5 and thats if they all fail the save 1st time

It seems to proc eight times.

It's still a useless spell in endgame content, however, as everything is immune.

[Nott]

I have a 20 sorc that carries wail. I had a 20 cleric (TR'd now) that used implosion. I'd prefer to have implosion for its duration. Also, though probably not WAI (and maybe fixed since?) it was fun during hound runs to cast implosion, then run up to the beholders and watch as they wither -- their anti-magic didn't affect implosion.

[phalaeo]

there is just 3 mobs in vale that don't die like flies in a bladbarrier. troglodyte rangers, troglodyte shaman and the rakshasa named guy. as those don't come in swarms its mostly easier to pick em off with destruction.

my comments on blade barrier are unfortunately only true and viable if you have empower+maximize+heighten or at least maximize. but even the halfling-healbot should carry that around...

What does the Halfling part have to do with it? :p
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[phalaeo]

It seems to proc eight times.

It's still a useless spell in endgame content, however, as everything is immune.

Agreed that it always seemed closer to eight for me. I used it in the Orchard and would pileon Wraiths and Shadows and they all went boom. More than 5, I know that for sure.

[blitzschlag]

What does the Halfling part have to do with it? :p
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lots of halfling clerics choose 3 dragonmarks + empower healing + toughness + 2 mental toughnesses as feats to dedicate themselves as pure red-bar minigame players. that however does not mean that you can't dragonmark a halfling cleric and still lay down a good bb ;)

[phalaeo]

lots of halfling clerics choose 3 dragonmarks + empower healing + toughness + 2 mental toughnesses as feats to dedicate themselves as pure red-bar minigame players. that however does not mean that you can't dragonmark a halfling cleric and still lay down a good bb ;)

Ah, gotcha- never took D-marks, so I forgot about the whole feat burning thing associated.

[Lighti]

Going back to the vale looting, i dont just mean the Explorer, soloing them quests is easy with BB but i like to whip out implosion for them peski Archers/Casters that like to stand still and spam. Also mixing BB with Implosion rocks for any mobs with Evasion in there. I am fully aware of how good Blade Barrier is but its nice to be able to use insta death aswell.

[Visty]

implosion works through doors, wail doesnt
implosion is a buff thus you can run around, cast other spells, pick your nose while the mobs die, for wail you have top gather them first
implosion is purple lightning

[Rusty_Can]

Implosion spell might be better, but right now I think it's not the worst problem which affects divine casters; as a matter of fact, several divine spells perform poorly, so poorly they are seldom used.

Let's look at FvS: they pay their larger mana pool with the availability of fewer spell-slots. Nevertheless, as a matter of fact, FvS manage to load (almost) all the useful spells: this means that a big share of divine spells are considered (and actually are) useless.

[Sirea]

Let's look at FvS: they pay their larger mana pool with the availability of fewer spell-slots. Nevertheless, as a matter of fact, FvS manage to load (almost) all the useful spells: this means that a big share of divine spells are considered (and actually are) useless.

/derail

I found this true when I was leveling up my FvS. I had a much easier time picking out spells than I did on my sorc because there's less good Divine spells to choose from...on the sorc I had a hard time picking a focus for my spells because I'd played a wizard previously and was used to more spell slots and and the flexibility, I wanted it all! :p

Level 6 spells are still a pinch though, I picked up BB/Cometfall/Heal, but I miss having Harm sometimes :(

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I've never understood why Implosion has a longer cooldown than Wail, the two really should be the same

[Original]

Don't forget Implosion works on undead.

[Zenako]

lots of halfling clerics choose 3 dragonmarks + empower healing + toughness + 2 mental toughnesses as feats to dedicate themselves as pure red-bar minigame players. that however does not mean that you can't dragonmark a halfling cleric and still lay down a good bb ;)

Ummm, not sure how many consititute "lots", but personally none of the halfling clerics I know or run with have any Dragon Marks. Probably since you can essentially replace those three feats with a stack of scrolls and take three other feats to make yourself more useful to the party. (Unless you are seriously plat poor and cannot afford scrolls, but by the time you have 7 feats under your belt as a cleric, you dang well better be able to afford some parchment...)

[rest]

I <3 implosion.

I would <3 it more if the cooldown was reduced to 45 seconds. Or 30 seconds. But in all honesty usually by the time I'm ready to cast another implosion, the cooldown timer has expired and I can. I'm a huge fan of BB/harm/meleeing mo fo's with my greenblade and death's touch for ***** and giggles. Implosion is just the cherry on top of the whippedcream of my cleric pie. Just don't ask me to heal any PUG raids :p