Cleric Solo Cash Time

[Turtlsdown]

What can I solo for maximum plat/hour?



My cleric:

Str 11
Dex 15
Con 16
Int 8
Wis 29
Cha 16

Fort +13
Ref +7
Will +19

BaB +12
SR 15
Fort 100%

AC:23
HP:216
SP:1355


What should I be aiming to tackle without too much fuss for a getting rich routine? Thoughts?

EDIT: Toon is here http://my.ddo.com/character/ghallanda/johnluke/ in case that helps with advice. I'm not a power player.

[bashemgud]

Can't link your page.

And posting your lvl would of been more useful than posting your stats.

[MonsterAbuser]

Lvl 13?

[Judo]

I was going to say

-running with the devils

-ritual sacrifice

-Madstone

-subt/vale slayers

but then i saw your hitpoints...

so i change it to:

-orchard/GH slayers

-waterworks elite...check that, hard

[Turtlsdown]

Sorry, durr me :/
Level 16 Cleric

[Turtlsdown]

I was going to say

-running with the devils

-ritual sacrifice

-Madstone

-subt/vale slayers

but then i saw your hitpoints...

so i change it to:

-orchard/GH slayers

-waterworks elite...check that, hard

Waterworks on hard? Really?

[ArichValtrahn]

Waterworks on hard? Really?

216 hp doesnt go very far, unfortunately.

[Turtlsdown]

216 hp doesnt go very far, unfortunately.

Hmm, obviously I'm doing it wrong. What should I be looking to do to raise my HP and what is the avg acceptable HP for lvl 16 clerics?

[ArichValtrahn]

Hmm, obviously I'm doing it wrong. What should I be looking to do to raise my HP and what is the avg acceptable HP for lvl 16 clerics?

It really depends on what kind of Cleric you are building. I wouldnt expect a ton of constitution on a healbot. My lv7 healbot has 16 con without any +stat items.

If you are supposed to be a solo capable or battle cleric, I would expect to see more than that.

[Anthios888]

It really depends on what kind of Cleric you are building. I wouldnt expect a ton of constitution on a healbot. My lv7 healbot has 16 con without any +stat items.

If you are supposed to be a solo capable or battle cleric, I would expect to see more than that.

Dead healers don't do anyone any good. Even with a 28 point build, an equivalent of 14 CON is minimum for a typical cleric.

What else are you spending build points on?

The OP suggested he wants to be "solo capable".

Around the level 16 cap, a typical human cleric would run around with 350-400 HP.

Ways you can improve your hit points:

1 toughness feats and all of the racial enhancements
Human / Dwarf / Warforged Constitution
Greater False Life (comes on rings, belts, dragontouched armor most commonly. There are some really easy belts in Amrath that have Greater False Life / 6 Con on them. I recommend them highly for someone without a lot of cash and time to grind)
Rage potions (20 HP is no joke)
Agents of Argo favor (150 favor = 10 HP)
Shroud Hit Point Items. Typically, clerics make mana items first, but even a second tier or single shard HP item is a great addition.
Lesser reincarnate (max wis, then pump con for the way you seem to describe yourself)

more later.. afk

[Turtlsdown]

Dead healers don't do anyone any good. Even with a 28 point build, an equivalent of 14 CON is minimum for a typical cleric.

What else are you spending build points on?

The OP suggested he wants to be "solo capable".

Around the level 16 cap, a typical human cleric would run around with 350-400 HP.

Ways you can improve your hit points:

1 toughness feats and all of the racial enhancements
Human / Dwarf / Warforged Constitution
Greater False Life (comes on rings, belts, dragontouched armor most commonly. There are some really easy belts in Amrath that have Greater False Life / 6 Con on them. I recommend them highly for someone without a lot of cash and time to grind)
Rage potions (20 HP is no joke)
Agents of Argo favor (150 favor = 10 HP)
Shroud Hit Point Items. Typically, clerics make mana items first, but even a second tier or single shard HP item is a great addition.
Lesser reincarnate (max wis, then pump con for the way you seem to describe yourself)

more later.. afk

I just got a GFL belt so thats starting to help. My CON is already at 16 (see OP above). I'll have to get the Toughness feat next level up that allows me a feat. Can I afford to use enhance pts for the racial toughness? I dont want to be a solo-beast. I just want to know what my char could solo that would help me earn $$$ once in a while. The reason I'm picking this cleric toon is only because it's my highest level toon right now. I'm sure my lvl 8 WF sorc could solo much easier but I figured the lvl 16 cleric could handle more than a lvl 8 sorc. Otherwise this toon is meant for healing only in parties.

[Tyrande]

I would add the Explorer Area: Desert of Menechtarun to the list of areas that you could solo.

It has better named loot items than Giant Hold or the Orchard.

[Kralgnax]

AC 23 at level 16?
Dude, you need to solo the Auction House and buy yourself some better armour.

Seriously, no offense meant here, but you should have an unbuffed AC of around 30.
Desert and Gianthold Explorer/rares are very good cash cows for you, I'd think.

[Beld]

and a typical 20 min loot run out there can net some decent coin. Plus, you will be getting slayer and eventually xp from that.

[Turtlsdown]

AC 23 at level 16?
Dude, you need to solo the AH and buy yourself some better armour.

Wearing +4 Fearsome Plate right now. The wierd thing is, with my HP and AC where they are, I've been able to do the Vale, Invaders, Subter, etc without dying alot or out of the ordinary while healing groups. I've just never really solo'd much of anything at all. So new armor needed huh? :(

[Turtlsdown]

and a typical 20 min loot run out there can net some decent coin. Plus, you will be getting slayer and eventually xp from that.

So you think if i get the toughness feat I'd be OK to solo in the vale? I've only done vale runs with groups of +3, haven't tried it solo. Do you solo the whole circle or just stay to certain areas and then recall and repeat?

[Beld]

I usually run out, check Pukru, the spider cave, Jukree and the Genie....shrine up and head to the Earth Ele, the Devil army, up to the Troll on the ridge and the bats......shrine or check the Hyena if still enough mana, or check after shrine, drop off and hit the Gnoll with the mephits, the first ewok village, drop off, check the rabid lion and then finish up with the second ewok village and shrine then recall, sell (or mail, I mail all stuff to my bard :) ) and wait 5 and run again.

I have also run the loop Earth Ele, bats, Troll, Hyena, Mephit dude, 1st/2nd village, Rabid Lion and continue past that to the devil area and check the Devil, Orthon, Lion and portal instead, both runs take me about 20 min or so.

Again, Blade Barrier (you want to have quicken tho) and then you sometimes have to banish/dismiss some of the lizard guys as they have improved evasion and don't always take alot of damge from the BB.

[Beld]

or if you don't have striders, some haste pots to get away from a group to drop a BB (Expeditious Retreat clickies work in a pinch)

[cluedout]

AC 23 at level 16?
Dude, you need to solo the Auction House and buy yourself some better armour.

Seriously, no offense meant here, but you should have an unbuffed AC of around 30.
Desert and Gianthold Explorer/rares are very good cash cows for you, I'd think.

lol???

why clr need AC? besides, AC meaningless at lvl 14-15 up unless you got 55+ AC

quickened heal is better than any AC i know of

[binnsr]

Vale, Orchard and Refuge slayers are very quick cash-per-hour for any caster or cleric.

Add the Menechtauren mephit/thirsty/general/commander loop for named items to sell on the AH just to mix it up.

30% striders, max, empower, quicken and extend are all very welcome additions to soloing on a cleric.

[rest]

If I were you, I'd look into getting some Elfcraft Full Plate.
Elfcrafted Plate Armor - (Armor) +3 Full Plate, Mithral, Arcane Lore, Minor Spell Penetration VII

It's a lower plus in terms of defense, but it will give your blade barriers a chance to crit. Arcane lore is the only way to get BB to crit. And elfcraft armor is the cheapest way to do it. Otherwise you'll have to try to grind out tome pages for a Skiver, Tor for blue dragon scales or DQ for the Greenblade. Of course these other 3 items are Greater Arcane Lore, whti a higher chance to crit and (i believe) a higher multiplier.

[binnsr]

oh .. and put those spectral gloves you're wearing on the AH .. they're next to useless for an 11-str cleric and there are folks out there who'll pay GOOD money for them :)

[Turtlsdown]

I usually run out, check Pukru, the spider cave, Jukree and the Genie....shrine up and head to the Earth Ele, the Devil army, up to the Troll on the ridge and the bats......shrine or check the Hyena if still enough mana, or check after shrine, drop off and hit the Gnoll with the mephits, the first ewok village, drop off, check the rabid lion and then finish up with the second ewok village and shrine then recall, sell (or mail, I mail all stuff to my bard :) ) and wait 5 and run again.

I have also run the loop Earth Ele, bats, Troll, Hyena, Mephit dude, 1st/2nd village, Rabid Lion and continue past that to the devil area and check the Devil, Orthon, Lion and portal instead, both runs take me about 20 min or so.

Again, Blade Barrier (you want to have quicken tho) and then you sometimes have to banish/dismiss some of the lizard guys as they have improved evasion and don't always take alot of damge from the BB.

Awesome advice, i'm gonna try this!!! TY!! :)

[Kralgnax]

Wearing +4 Fearsome Plate right now. The wierd thing is, with my HP and AC where they are, I've been able to do the Vale, Invaders, Subter, etc without dying alot or out of the ordinary while healing groups. I've just never really solo'd much of anything at all. So new armor needed huh? :(

Absolutely it's true that in a group your AC may well not matter, and on the harder fights going forward it also won't matter, but against the critters you'd likely be soloing (say, Gianthold). I'd argue it matters a lot.

However, YMMV. Good hunting!

[Turtlsdown]

If I were you, I'd look into getting some Elfcraft Full Plate.
Elfcrafted Plate Armor - (Armor) +3 Full Plate, Mithral, Arcane Lore, Minor Spell Penetration VII

It's a lower plus in terms of defense, but it will give your blade barriers a chance to crit. Arcane lore is the only way to get BB to crit. And elfcraft armor is the cheapest way to do it. Otherwise you'll have to try to grind out tome pages for a Skiver, Tor for blue dragon scales or DQ for the Greenblade. Of course these other 3 items are Greater Arcane Lore, whti a higher chance to crit and (i believe) a higher multiplier.

My problem is right now I'm F2P/premium and I only had enough TP's saved up to get Vale/Sub module and Delera's module (for my other lower lvl toons). So no GH for me :/

[Turtlsdown]

oh .. and put those spectral gloves you're wearing on the AH .. they're next to useless for an 11-str cleric and there are folks out there who'll pay GOOD money for them :)

What kind of money should I try to list them at? Didn't realize they were valuable, just thought they had an interesting effect to wear just in case.

[rest]

My problem is right now I'm F2P/premium and I only had enough TP's saved up to get Vale/Sub module and Delera's module (for my other lower lvl toons). So no GH for me :/

Ah I gotcha. Getting the Vale was probably the smarter move since it allows you to (eventually) craft GS items which will far outweigh the stuff you'd pull from GH (except for the relic/scale armor).

What if you bought the relics of the AH and got a friend to buy you a 30 minute pass for GH? Not an ideal solution, but a workable one.

[SquelchHU]

I just got a GFL belt so thats starting to help. My CON is already at 16 (see OP above). I'll have to get the Toughness feat next level up that allows me a feat. Can I afford to use enhance pts for the racial toughness? I dont want to be a solo-beast. I just want to know what my char could solo that would help me earn $$$ once in a while. The reason I'm picking this cleric toon is only because it's my highest level toon right now. I'm sure my lvl 8 WF sorc could solo much easier but I figured the lvl 16 cleric could handle more than a lvl 8 sorc. Otherwise this toon is meant for healing only in parties.

Toughness + enhancements is definitely worth it. Keep GFL on, keep your Minos on, get Toughness + enhancements, and get a Constitution boosting item. Also, do you have two wisdom boosting items? I can't tell what the pluses on those are. With those things you should have level appropriate HP.


What kind of money should I try to list them at? Didn't realize they were valuable, just thought they had an interesting effect to wear just in case.

Depends on server, but millions of gold from what I've seen. I am not even kidding.

Anyways, don't worry about your AC. For GH you'd need 40+ to even begin to make enemies miss, for Vale higher than that. Since you probably aren't going to get it, just don't worry about it. You have other ways to keep yourself safe.

[Bogenbroom]

I'm going to dissent with a lot of folks here.

Your HP, for a lvl 16, are tolerable. Not super, but okay. GFL and a +6 con item... those are standard, make sure you have those. Personally I would never use a feat on toughness on a cleric, especially if he is going to solo. Those feats are too valuable. That is just me though.

AC is near meaningless unless you can really jack it up, If you can get over a 35 or so, great. If not, go for effects. Fearsome is great for a soloer. If you can get a fearsome of something, anything, great. Use it to solo until you get your DT.

There is a short list of items that you *must* have. Potency VI or better is a must (for your BB.) 25 or better striders are critical.

One other comment... concentration. Make sure you have a very solid concentration skill. BB takes forever to get off and you *will* get hit while casting.

As far as where to go. Desert is fine if you don't care about the XP (being 16 you are over level.) I think you are better off in the Orchard and the Vale. Before much longer you will be able to solo things like the IQ and DD. Hell, there are 3-5 chests in that solo DD quest alone. Good for a pure cash loot run.

Just my 2 (okay 20) cents.

[binnsr]

What kind of money should I try to list them at? Didn't realize they were valuable, just thought they had an interesting effect to wear just in case.

Both pairs on Thelanis' AH right now are listed for 1mil pp with 1.2mil buyout..

Looks like on Ghallanda, there are several pairs listed in the 700-800k pp range.

[binnsr]

I'm going to dissent with a lot of folks here.

Your HP, for a lvl 16, are tolerable. Not super, but okay. GFL and a +6 con item... those are standard, make sure you have those. Personally I would never use a feat on toughness on a cleric, especially if he is going to solo. Those feats are too valuable. That is just me though.
A cleric gets 7 feats.. Maximize, Empower, Extend, Quicken, Mental Toughness, Improved Mental Toughness and Toughness are really all you need.
Although, I suppose You could take Spell Pen and/or Greater Spell Pen, but i've found that having the enhancements is all you really need most of the time

AC is near meaningless unless you can really jack it up, If you can get over a 35 or so, great. If not, go for effects. Fearsome is great for a soloer. If you can get a fearsome of something, anything, great. Use it to solo until you get your DT.
I'd go farther than that and say that if you can't get your AC in the 50-60 range, you might as well be wearing robes -- they, at least have the benefit of being quick-swappable :)

There is a short list of items that you *must* have. Potency VI or better is a must (for your BB.) 25 or better striders are critical.

One other comment... concentration. Make sure you have a very solid concentration skill. BB takes forever to get off and you *will* get hit while casting.
Blade Barrier without Quicken is too painful to consider :)
Concentration is only needed for when you want to conserve spellpoints by either having quicken off or for scrolling in an archer crossfire. That said, I wouldn't recommend skimping on concentration even with quicken :)

As far as where to go. Desert is fine if you don't care about the XP (being 16 you are over level.) I think you are better off in the Orchard and the Vale. Before much longer you will be able to solo things like the IQ and DD. Hell, there are 3-5 chests in that solo DD quest alone. Good for a pure cash loot run.
There are 3 chests in the 3rd DD quest and I've found that one easier to solo in about 10 mins than the other .. but then, i can't jump in a coordinated fashion to save my life :D
Just my 2 (okay 20) cents.

comments in red .. not that I disagree with it all either :)

[Yagi]

Maybe I am off base but I suggest keeping the gloves to use on future characters since your money troubles can be solved in many ways, but the benefit derived from the gloves is alot rarer.

[binnsr]

Maybe I am off base but I suggest keeping the gloves to use on future characters since your money troubles can be solved in many ways, but the benefit derived from the gloves is alot rarer.

He's playing a cleric .. all he has to do if he ever wants/needs a pair is to go solo it to the three chests that drop them..

[Babumbalaboo]

What can you solo as a cleric for good money?

Hmmm...

You can solo-heal The Shroud.

[Turtlsdown]

So I'm getting alot of really great input in this thread, but some of the advice is point-counterpoint and I have to admit a bit confusing. Should I get toughness(feat)+toughness(enchancements)? Or are my HP ok, and save my future feats for other stuff? And should I be spending money for new armor? Or just sell the fearsome plate and pick up a wardrobe of robes? Every argument is very convincing, probably because they all sound alot smarter and more intricate than the amount of though I've put into my toon as a new player. But I just trying to figure out in which direction to go now, since I dont want to have to mess with expensive feat-changes, and buying expensive new armor is counter productive to my goal of taking some time off from xp-questing and earning some money. Heh, I'm not even sure now whether to sell the gloves or not :P

[binnsr]

As with most things, we all have opinions :) none of them are right or wrong, we're just giving you advice that you can take and hopefully make an informed decision with :)

[Babumbalaboo]

Just a note that while I was technically joking about solo-healing The Shroud, I'm not entirely joking about it. Now, you don't have to be a superstar ace, but if you manage to actually get a completion in and pick up a large ingredient, you can easily sell it for over a million gold (going by Cannith's prices), thus eliminating your need for any sort of cash farming. Seriously.

[budwise09]

He's playing a cleric .. all he has to do if he ever wants/needs a pair is to go solo it to the three chests that drop them..
Umm where are these three chests? :D

[binnsr]

Umm where are these three chests? :D

First 3 chests after the second aspect.

[Bacab]

you can solo Wizard-King no problem if you use freedom of movement and you are familiar with the quest. Also you will pick up pretty good XP on it.

[LordMond]

Forgive me if it's been said before here- I may have overlooked it- but be sure to have a Heavy Fortification item equipped. If you solo alot, you've almost certainly developed some workable tactics on limiting the number of mobs you pull at a time and such. Knowing that they won't be able to receive a lucky crit and take you down half or more (or, worse, one of those double crits that has you taking a dirt nap in one swipe) means one less thing to worry about.

[dread333]

[QUOTE=Turtlsdown;2753139]What can I solo for maximum plat/hour?



Just to answer your original question, I'd go with Tear of Dhakan (lol probably misspelled that) in House P, lots of chests, decent loot, and you should be able to draw most mobs through a blade barrier, go on norm, without a thief you won't be able to access the shrine, but be careful and you should be ok :)

[Bloodhaven]

Absolutely it's true that in a group your AC may well not matter, and on the harder fights going forward it also won't matter, but against the critters you'd likely be soloing (say, Gianthold). I'd argue it matters a lot.

However, YMMV. Good hunting!

AC on a cleric is not needed, find yourself some robes to wear. Axeblock/spearblock deathblock, there are plenty to chose from. None of my divine casters wear armor. It is all robes from level 1 on. Just keep moving and if you get knocked down block till you get back up. BB is your friend. High HP will also help allot. Carry a shield, preferably adamantine tower shield as high a + as you can get cheep. The DR will more than compensate for not having AC. You do not need to be proficient with your shield to use it.

[Yagi]

He's playing a cleric .. all he has to do if he ever wants/needs a pair is to go solo it to the three chests that drop them..

Thats three chests for gloves vs many chests for cash...........

[binnsr]

Thats three chests for gloves vs many chests for cash...........

Directions for Offering were given in the event that he wanted Spectral Gloves for a future character after selling the pair that he has that is useless on his cleric.

[bobbryan2]

Named items will give more cash than selling loot. Things like the bloodstone, spectral gloves, firestorm greaves and spellstoring ring are all high cash drops that drop from the desert (and would be very easy to solo.)

I would stay away from chests that don't drop named items... at least until you're 18-20 and can just solo amrath and inspired quarter for tons of plat.

[hkusp45]

Inspired Quarter...great loot EZ quest ,can make alot of plat in just an hour

[Turtlsdown]

I have the Minos helm, so I think that gives me hvy fort (correct me if I'm wrong here). So what quest is this quest that goes by the intitials DD that was mentioned above?

EDIT: Just thought of something. Doesn't the Minos helm already give me the Toughness feat also? Is that how that works?

[Yagi]

I have the Minos helm, so I think that gives me hvy fort (correct me if I'm wrong here). So what quest is this quest that goes by the intitials DD that was mentioned above?

EDIT: Just thought of something. Doesn't the Minos helm already give me the Toughness feat also? Is that how that works?

As far as I can tell it just gives the effect of toughness, but does not count as an actual feat. And yeah it gives heavy fort.

[Turtlsdown]

As far as I can tell it just gives the effect of toughness, but does not count as an actual feat. And yeah it gives heavy fort.

Does this mean that the Toughness from the Minos helm and the Toughness feat will stack?

[budwise09]

Does this mean that the Toughness from the Minos helm and the Toughness feat will stack?
Yes, they stack. :)

[sirgog]

What kind of money should I try to list them at? Didn't realize they were valuable, just thought they had an interesting effect to wear just in case.

Sold my last spare pair of Spectral Gloves for 300k PP (3 million gold) on Khyber. Seems about the going rate - they have a fairly high drop rate, but are hard to farm quickly.

Once you hit 18 or so, soloing the Inspired Quarter on Normal is great - every chest (except the -5 loot one in Mindsunder) can drop +2 tomes, and you'll get quite a few if you ransack the entire IQ. +2 tomes sell well indeed on the AH.

[Turtlsdown]

Thank you kindly for the responses and advice. It's very appreciated :)

[boldarblood]

AC 23 at level 16?
Dude, you need to solo the Auction House and buy yourself some better armour.

Seriously, no offense meant here, but you should have an unbuffed AC of around 30.
Desert and Gianthold Explorer/rares are very good cash cows for you, I'd think.

bad advice here.

Don't worry about your AC. Fearsome armour is much better.