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Anthios888
02-11-2010, 12:53 AM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9436/reddragonscale.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/reddragonscale.jpg/)



Congratulations to my wife, Fanfare, for putting together the first dragonscale robe.

She made a blue dragonscale robe and upgraded it to a red robe. The effects on it are:


Superior Fire Resistance
Superior Combustion 8
Armor Bonus 8
Superior Fire Lore
Eternal Fire - gives all melee attacks flaming burst
Fire Guard (1d8 fire damage)
Incineration Guard
Blue slot
Colorless Slot


Kudos and many thanks to everyone who assisted with taking out Velah, grinding out the dungeon tokens, helping with blue scales, and offering their general support and positive atmosphere. There are too many names to name, but those who fronted me the red scales include Lorithin, Leloman, Turial, MrBellows, Naxy, Lelodar, Redgun, Macack and Abduull. The last few blue scales we needed were contributed by MrBellows, Gunga, Cocobolo, and Treaka. And as always, thanks to anyone I did not mention who helped in the raid/dungeon parties, including Sim and Verge, Riorik, Isssa, Coldest, Goki, Jefro, Ratt, Whyxxx, Divs, Dynomite, Nemaine, Oogly, Chan, and everyone I forgot =) You're GRReat!

MysteryNotes
02-11-2010, 12:54 AM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9436/reddragonscale.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/reddragonscale.jpg/)



Congratulations to my wife, Fanfare, for putting together the first dragonscale robe.

She made a blue dragonscale robe and upgraded it to a red robe. The effects on it are:


Superior Fire Resistance
Superior Combustion 8
Armor Bonus 8
Superior Fire Lore
Eternal Fire - gives all melee attacks flaming burst
Fire Guard (1d8 fire damage)
Incineration Guard
Blue slot
Colorless Slot


Kudos and many thanks to everyone who assisted with taking out Velah, grinding out the dungeon tokens, helping with blue scales, and offering their general support and positive atmosphere. There are too many names to name, but those who fronted me the red scales include Lorithin, Leloman, Turial, MrBellows, Naxy, Lelodar, Redgun, Macack and Abduull. The last few blue scales we needed were contributed by MrBellows, Gunga, Cocobolo, and Treaka. And as always, thanks to anyone I did not mention who helped in the raid/dungeon parties, including Sim and Verge, Riorik, Isssa, Coldest, Goki, Jefro, Ratt, Whyxxx, Divs, Dynomite, Nemaine, Oogly, Chan, and everyone I forgot =) You're GRReat!

Wow...that is one cool lookin robe!

Inspire
02-11-2010, 12:55 AM
Congrats Fan!

Barbaric
02-11-2010, 12:58 AM
Gratz :), And it looks cool too!

Anthios888
02-11-2010, 01:00 AM
For those asking, Fanfare is a strength-based 18 cleric / 2 monk "battlecleric".

Unyielding Crusader (https://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=2621428)

AxeM
02-11-2010, 01:02 AM
Grats

Lithic
02-11-2010, 01:03 AM
Whats the process to make the robe? Just collect 25 red scales from the epic raid? Anything else?

valorik
02-11-2010, 01:04 AM
Whats the process to make the robe? Just collect 25 red scales from the epic raid? Anything else?

20 red scales+ red dragon shard+ 20 epic dragon tokens+ 1 dragonscale set, I beleive which dragonscale set you use decides the outcome of your armor.

Anthios888
02-11-2010, 01:05 AM
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1705/vainfare.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/vainfare.jpg/)

The princess prefers this picture because it is more flattering, she says.

The process to create a red armor is to combine any dragonscale robe with a Shard of the Red Dragon, 20 flawless red dragon scales, and 20 dungeon tokens.

Aspenor
02-11-2010, 01:06 AM
much gratz on the armor....

but is anybody else going "meh...."???

kaelis
02-11-2010, 01:08 AM
much gratz on the armor....

but is anybody else going "meh...."???


Congrats on being first! Very nice job Ghallanda!

Yes. Good melee robe, poor caster robe, upset that this is the blue dragon upgrade. If they Are different, I'm not such a fan as a caster dude.

Oreg
02-11-2010, 01:09 AM
I'd put it on my ranger situationally. Then again I don't have a melee cleric build but if I did I'd probably use it as well. All in all it has some nice additions.

Kindoki
02-11-2010, 01:11 AM
The princess prefers this picture because it is more flattering, she says.

The process to create a red armor is to combine any dragonscale robe with a Shard of the Red Dragon, 20 flawless red dragon scales, and 20 dungeon tokens.



So, it must be late for me.... when you say any dragonscale robe... you mean, run Tor, get 25 blue/white/or black, build that armor, and then add the red scales, shard, and tokens?

Aspenor
02-11-2010, 01:12 AM
I was expecting something like Incineration Guard, Superior Combustion IX, Epic Fire Lore, Superior Fire Resistance and some augment slots. More along the lines of a blue, yellow, AND colorless.

I mean, you have to give up your low ML dragonscales to use it, right?

BlackPantha2
02-11-2010, 01:12 AM
wow... thats actually a piece of ****...

oberon131313
02-11-2010, 01:16 AM
nice job GRR, though when you think about what went into it, it's a bit underwhelming...

Aspenor
02-11-2010, 01:16 AM
wow... thats actually a piece of ****...

indeed. gives me...literally no reason to replace my DT, or even consider it.

Anthios888
02-11-2010, 01:18 AM
I really don't see where the color we used affected the upgrade. This has no elements of blue dragonscale robe (and yeah - that comes out of Gianthold)

The main thing is, what better is there? It's a really nice item for a lot of characters, especially hybrid characters that have a lot going on. The combustion stuff doesn't help Fan at all, but I know I'll be crafting something with so many guards and flaming burst for my battlecleric. I would actually be kind of disappointed it if was so clearly better than every other armor that it made every character need to do this insane grind. As it is, it's versatile great for a lot of characters, but especially suited to a few. It's maybe not the best ac robe or the best caster robe, but it combines a lot of those elements into one piece of equipment. If you don't need it, this should probably be a relief that you can turn those flawless red scales into devil scales.

I imagine the leather, medium armor, docent, and heavy armor could have some interesting upgrades as well -- we're seeing the combustion and lore probably because we chose a robe.

So, where are the other servers? Come on Legion and make some leather or something =)

Nomical
02-11-2010, 01:19 AM
http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/sepmarfisi/DragonArmor3.jpg

Lawst
02-11-2010, 01:20 AM
Congrats, the robe looks amazing. I hope that the starting dragonscale (black, blue, white) affects the outcome as well as the armor type (robe,leather, full plate, breastplate, docent, ). Lossing the Greater Arcane Lore from the Blue seems to be quite a sacrafice for the upgrade.

Anthios888
02-11-2010, 01:21 AM
Another note. It cannot currently be repaired...

Nomical
02-11-2010, 01:22 AM
One big problem -- I can't repair this anywhere!

Normal repair doesn't work, and the chick in Meridia doesn't have red as an option yet. Oops.

Gunga
02-11-2010, 01:25 AM
wow... thats actually a piece of ****...

Wow. I can't believe you didn't make it first.



Grats Fan!! Looks very cool. I'll upgrade some old dragonscale that's been sitting in the bank for sure.

BlackPantha2
02-11-2010, 01:47 AM
The main thing is, what better is there? It's a really nice item for a lot of characters, especially hybrid characters that have a lot going on. The combustion stuff doesn't help Fan at all, but I know I'll be crafting something with so many guards and flaming burst for my battlecleric. I would actually be kind of disappointed it if was so clearly better than every other armor that it made every character need to do this insane grind. As it is, it's versatile great for a lot of characters, but especially suited to a few. It's maybe not the best ac robe or the best caster robe, but it combines a lot of those elements into one piece of equipment.

Please show me a character that would want to wear this.

Fire damage in small quantities sucks... I'll take 1 corrosive salt guard or 1 disintegration guard over those two guards AND the flaming burst effect.

Superior Fire lore + Superior combustion 8 = Fail, as far as casters are concerned.

Superior Fire Resistance, sadly, this is the best part of this armor...

Taimasan
02-11-2010, 01:59 AM
Yea, I would not mind this on my monk for the flaming burst to melee. put a +4 Natural Armor in that Blue slot, +6 dex in the colorless slot. I would like to see if different original colors change the outcome of the final product, as i currently have my white dragonscale robe made. Since there is not much for a Monk to bring to epic level, im glad it gives me something to work on. =P

Oreg
02-11-2010, 03:12 AM
Grats Fan!! Looks very cool. I'll upgrade some old dragonscale that's been sitting in the bank for sure.

That's the way I see it too. It may be as bad as you previous posters think but imo it beats the blue dragonscale (s) sitting in my banks.

Gratch
02-11-2010, 03:13 AM
Gratz Fan... Awesome looking armor. Nice guards at least. You'll need to load firestorm I guess.



Superior Fire lore + Superior combustion 8 = Fail, as far as casters are concerned.


Is there another source of Superior Fire Lore in game? (hoping that 9% is a typo). The dragon fire necklace didn't have it. Anyways... combustion is the now the "for noobs" property. Real casters use 3 min clicks of the Superior Inferno 9 +75% belt when they really need to pour it on. (or drink sup 4 pots if fwalling epic).

And though fire is weak against the devil content. It works on demons, it works on liches, and it works on a large number of epic mobs. Devil content is so 3 updates ago.

Oreg
02-11-2010, 03:13 AM
Grats Fan!! Looks very cool. I'll upgrade some old dragonscale that's been sitting in the bank for sure.

That's the way I see it too. It may not be as good as you previous posters wanted but imo it beats the blue dragonscale (s) sitting in my banks.

Sharzade
02-11-2010, 03:26 AM
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1705/vainfare.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/vainfare.jpg/)

The princess prefers this picture because it is more flattering, she says.

The process to create a red armor is to combine any dragonscale robe with a Shard of the Red Dragon, 20 flawless red dragon scales, and 20 dungeon tokens.


I love the screenshots. :)

I reckon Epic is becoming more alluring now that there's a chance for our characters to wear something so pretty! :D

Sharz
:p

SimVerg
02-11-2010, 03:57 AM
Please show me a character that would want to wear this.

Fire damage in small quantities sucks... I'll take 1 corrosive salt guard or 1 disintegration guard over those two guards AND the flaming burst effect.

Superior Fire lore + Superior combustion 8 = Fail, as far as casters are concerned.

Superior Fire Resistance, sadly, this is the best part of this armor...

So I guess you guys will be making light armor?

BlackPantha2
02-11-2010, 04:18 AM
So I guess you guys will be making light armor?

After seeing this, I don't know that I want to be the experimenter on these, it is so narrow that chances are you'll end up with something you'll never use.

wamjratl1
02-11-2010, 10:03 AM
I dig it.

Is it the robe everyone is gonna want? No. Is it the robe you're gonna want to wear all the time? Probably not. Is it gonna be absolutley devastating for the right toon in the right place. Hellz yes. IMO, this type of item (epic crafting, etc.) is for people, like Fan, who are going to be able to craft epic versions of whatever they want so essentially they'll have the perfect item for every occasion. The game is just getting started with epic crafting so we'll look forward to seeing what the future brings. This is just one item in what is sure to become a massive arsenal of epic gear for Fan, et al. Grats Fan and all the GRR folks and friends who contributed!

Plus it is HAWT.

Belwaar
02-11-2010, 10:03 AM
Gratz on the upgrade! Looks very cool!

I know some are only about how uB3R they can be, but from a pure aesthetic point of view, that is COOL AS HELL looking, and I'd upgrade my set on my 20 Barb just for ***** and giggles. I think I found something to do with time. :D

Ryan1616
02-11-2010, 11:05 AM
i think that looks pretty sweet, ive got black robes i been sitting on, might need them upgraded ;)

muffinlad
02-11-2010, 11:27 AM
I think the robe looks great and congrats on putting one together. It really has a stunning look. Thank you for doing the work on this.

To the Dev's.

Like others have said though, for an epic item, I think it underwhelms and is only situationally useful for a Caster. If I had used a Blue Robe to do this, I would be disapointed.

What you give items is important, but how they will be used, and by which classes is just as important. A Monk who is weilding Non-fire Burstish hand wraps, with a holy damage ring (or other damage ring from VOD), and this robe has the potential to be quite devistating in limited circumstance, so I can seel the value there, but for upgrading for casters, this lets me see that on yet another item, I don't want the upgrade.

It's all about relevance, and the item, while cool looking, won't really seal the deal for a caster.

Regards,

muffinlad

PS. I suppose if I had a ready greater arcane replacement (ember, greenblade, etc.) on a different item it might make me less adverse, but that ability is simply far too critical for most caster types to trade away for what you have offered here.

Solmage
02-11-2010, 12:33 PM
Yes. Good melee robe, poor caster robe, upset that this is the blue dragon upgrade. If they Are different, I'm not such a fan as a caster dude.

Well, the superior fire lore and permanent auperior DBF isn't bad. I would have preferred IX, (or at least a clicky for it added), but between the guards and 40 pt resist, I would consider wearing it on my caster when not in shavarath.

Edit: (My blue dragonscale robe is in the bank, I use alternate greater arcane lore gear)

Henrieta
02-11-2010, 01:58 PM
I think it's another exciting new piece of gear for the game. Looking amazing and standing out in a crowd of DT armors is awesome.

Congrats on all your accomplishments!

I wonder what you will be working on next...

kingfisher
02-11-2010, 02:08 PM
nice work, now let's see that docent ;)

kaelis
02-11-2010, 02:10 PM
Well, the superior fire lore and permanent auperior DBF isn't bad. I would have preferred IX, (or at least a clicky for it added), but between the guards and 40 pt resist, I would consider wearing it on my caster when not in shavarath.

Edit: (My blue dragonscale robe is in the bank, I use alternate greater arcane lore gear)

As do I, but my dt is Resist 5, salt guard and grtr spell pen 8. I mainly use noxious embers when i feel the need to nuke, or even actual lore items if I'm feeling uber. Just saying that the effects as written are "meh" at best in my opinion. 10 points of fire resist don't matter to me enough when im already wearing greaves, fire shield and can spam protections all day long.

Anthios888
02-11-2010, 02:13 PM
As do I, but my dt is Resist 5, salt guard and grtr spell pen 8. I mainly use noxious embers when i feel the need to nuke, or even actual lore items if I'm feeling uber. Just saying that the effects as written are "meh" at best in my opinion. 10 points of fire resist don't matter to me enough when im already wearing greaves, fire shield and can spam protections all day long.

Epic Torc = Greater spell pen 8. Epic Greenblade = greater arcane lore, spell pen 9.

Dragontouched just has such weak options for casters right now that this looks pretty decent in comparison.

rimble
02-11-2010, 02:14 PM
much gratz on the armor....

but is anybody else going "meh...."???

Yeah, my Monk wouldn't mind...how many more effects can I add to my attacks, hehe.

Holy Burst (ToD Ring), Shocking Burst (ToD Ring), Icy Burst (Risia Festival), Flaming (ToD Henshin Mystic Set), Flaming Burst (Epic Robe), plus whatever is on Handwraps already...wheeeeee!

Could put Chaosgardes back on too.

Turial
02-11-2010, 02:14 PM
I'm assuming the second two attributes and the last two attribues will be common to all the red dragon armors.

kaelis
02-11-2010, 02:19 PM
Epic Torc = Greater spell pen 8. Epic Greenblade = greater arcane lore, spell pen 9.

Dragontouched just has such weak options for casters right now that this looks pretty decent in comparison.

I have a fair amount of epic completions. Close to 50 (nothing uber, but I was tr'ing and we only started running them about 2-3 weeks ago religiously) all said and done. Almost all from the dq area and have never seen seal, shard or scroll of either item. :) When I actually craft them, then my tune may change. But regardless that robe still doesn't seem like the hottest stuff around. Even with both I coul slap healing amp, and it would still be worth it for the heal amp and resist 5 as a permanent addition over the small boost (when/if it is corrected) to my firewall and fireball damage.

Nomical
02-11-2010, 07:16 PM
As the screen shot shows, the 9% listed in the item description is incorrect. Combat log on equip says that the robe gives fire spells 12% chance to critical hit.

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/sepmarfisi/Superiorfirelore.jpg

Nomical
02-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Another update - if you go to the chick in meridia and say the dragonscale is white, it will let you repair. Thanks for the dev response!

dejafu
02-11-2010, 07:58 PM
One side note to consider about the whole "fire damage is useless at level 20 content" thing: One of three listed planar destinations at the Twelve is Risia, the plane of ice. Considering that and the whole "winter games" thing, my guess would be that we're up for some new high level ice themed content pretty soon here.

Oh, and by the way Fan, congrats again... I love how it perfectly matches your character's look :D

BlackPantha2
02-11-2010, 10:10 PM
One side note to consider about the whole "fire damage is useless at level 20 content" thing: One of three listed planar destinations at the Twelve is Risia, the plane of ice. Considering that and the whole "winter games" thing, my guess would be that we're up for some new high level ice themed content pretty soon here.

Oh, and by the way Fan, congrats again... I love how it perfectly matches your character's look :D

This would definitely help the cause for the usefulness of this armor.

Junts
02-11-2010, 10:16 PM
This would definitely help the cause for the usefulness of this armor.


Certainly true, though I can't help but think Turbine must know they could never implement a serious ice-based module without giving every mob mantle of invulnerability.

dejafu
02-11-2010, 11:07 PM
Certainly true, though I can't help but think Turbine must know they could never implement a serious ice-based module without giving every mob mantle of invulnerability.

I'm confused... I was under the impression Mantle of Vulnerability only blocked level 4 or lower spell effects. Does that include weapon effects?

And we've already seen a high level ice quest where mobs are still plenty vulnerable to fire (Prey on the Hunter).

Also note that the Henshin Mystic looks like it's going to have some fire themes. I just can't see them offering up this much fire-oriented stuff without implying that there will be some very specific uses for it down the road...

kaelis
02-11-2010, 11:18 PM
I'm confused... I was under the impression Mantle of Vulnerability only blocked level 4 or lower spell effects. Does that include weapon effects?

And we've already seen a high level ice quest where mobs are still plenty vulnerable to fire (Prey on the Hunter).

Also note that the Henshin Mystic looks like it's going to have some fire themes. I just can't see them offering up this much fire-oriented stuff without implying that there will be some very specific uses for it down the road...

Fire wall.

dejafu
02-11-2010, 11:24 PM
Fire wall.

Oh. Right.

Serves me right for never rolling up a wizard or sorc all these years :o

Still useful for melees. And Mantle on every mob seems like overkill :p

valorik
02-12-2010, 01:10 AM
given risia in PoP I would bet that if we were to spend a lot of time on that plane, all fire effects would be 1/2 damage.

winsom
02-12-2010, 09:27 AM
For people that are underwhelmed about this robe. Remember it has augment slots! That is a big deal.
I do not like how blue scale robe lost the arcane lore property in the transformation though. Casters would expect to keep that. I think that should be fixed, instead of the flaming burst, perhaps. Flaming Burst should come from melee-oriented scales, i.e. white, and not blue.


The combustion stuff doesn't help Fan at all, but I know I'll be crafting something with so many guards and flaming burst for my battlecleric.

Is cometfall flagged as a fire spell? That is an awesome battle-cleric spell.
The DDO compendium isn't saying for cometfall, and not for flame strike either...

Adoraro
02-12-2010, 10:22 AM
Cometfall does bludgeon damage.

rest
02-12-2010, 06:44 PM
Cometfall does bludgeon damage.

half bludgeon half holy? or am i thinking of something totally different?

oberon131313
02-12-2010, 06:54 PM
One side note to consider about the whole "fire damage is useless at level 20 content" thing: One of three listed planar destinations at the Twelve is Risia, the plane of ice. Considering that and the whole "winter games" thing, my guess would be that we're up for some new high level ice themed content pretty soon here.

Oh, and by the way Fan, congrats again... I love how it perfectly matches your character's look :D

I thought the 3 planescaller destination requests were Shavarath, Lammania, and Dolurrh...

did I miss something?

oberon131313
02-12-2010, 06:54 PM
half bludgeon half holy? or am i thinking of something totally different?

you are thinking of flamestrike, which is fire/good damage.

Lleren
02-12-2010, 07:11 PM
I like the Action pose.

Logicman69
02-13-2010, 02:24 PM
Yeah, my Monk wouldn't mind...how many more effects can I add to my attacks, hehe.

Holy Burst (ToD Ring), Shocking Burst (ToD Ring), Icy Burst (Risia Festival), Flaming (ToD Henshin Mystic Set), Flaming Burst (Epic Robe), plus whatever is on Handwraps already...wheeeeee!

Could put Chaosgardes back on too.

I was actually thinking the same thing.. Add Force Burst Wraps of Weighted 5% and you got yourself a great trash mob setup

Nevthial
02-14-2010, 12:16 AM
I like the look of the robe, congrats on the upgrade.

I mailed you a demon's blood to Rockna btw, so don't delete it by accident. :D

Anthios888
02-14-2010, 12:44 AM
Thank you!