Epic Von5 DC

[Xyfiel]

72 search not enough
90 open lock/disable
70 reflex not enough

I can't see anyone reliably getting these numbers without taking feats, being a mechanic, being trap specced, and certain races.

Current options
1) try to find the uber trap rogue on the server, and basically waste a slot
2) res thru them

Who thinks ressing the whole party thru traps multiple times in a quest is fun? Cabal was different back in the day because it was optional. The traps in Von5 are not optional, you have to pass them. Suggest these get lowered to being hard but not in the 1% of rogues can do them. I understand people are not complaining now because it is new and they want to start the epic grind for items. Still doesn't mean it is fun or reasonable.

[Ulf]

disagree

Epic trap requiring someone that is trap specced sounds good to me.

[BrianTheHun]

I agree. The numbers are way too high.

[WolfSpirit]

I don't know. A trap spec'ed Wizrogue with 34 or 36 INT ALL buffed up couldn't find the boxes in Prison of the Mind Epic. Forget ALL locked containers.
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btw WOW to the Fire Giant with the Mephits! Who, by the way, is ANGRY before even getting to him!
More than 2 hours and unable to beat the final 5 bosses in there. Yeah 5 or more I think it was. Beholders were sissys, their friends however...
But it was a learning experience. BUT the traps SHOULD be doable for someone with search in the 70-80s or whatnot. Thats just crazy, you HAVE to be able to get past them somehow! (I guess res-though is the only way though)

[Xyfiel]

disagree

Epic trap requiring someone that is trap specced sounds good to me.

Fine with me too, except these are still not doable by mechanics, the trap specced PrE without other heavy investments.