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Tangleweed
02-02-2010, 10:14 AM
If you are dead and ghost walking around and you are weilding - at time of death a ghost touch weapon would it not make logical sense that you could attack another ghost/ wraith or are you a mere image.

the issue of this idea would be how would u impliment it as if you are dead and it continues to attack you and you where would u draw the line.. if you got to -ve something would u be forced back to a tavern who knows it is asilly idea but it just seems odd that ghosts cant interact.

Also what about our ghost being able to pass through doors (not walls that could cause mayhem as they fall off maps and such) but having an ability to pass thru closed doors seems viable - they are ghosts and some of the npc ghosts certainly seem to be able to - would help with shrines so much

SquelchHU
02-02-2010, 04:10 PM
You realize the ghost through walls thing was fixed because you could exploit the hell out of quite a few quests with that right?

BlackSmith81
02-03-2010, 07:02 AM
that you could attack another ghost/ wraith or are you a mere image.

Incorporeal Subtype
An incorporeal creature has no physical body. It can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, magic weapons or creatures that strike as magic weapons, and spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities. It is immune to all nonmagical attack forms. Even when hit by spells or magic weapons, it has a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source (except for positive energy, negative energy, force effects such as magic missile, or attacks made with ghost touch weapons). Although it is not a magical attack, holy water can affect incorporeal undead, but a hit with holy water has a 50% chance of not affecting an incorporeal creature.

An incorporeal creature has no natural armor bonus but has a deflection bonus equal to its Charisma bonus (always at least +1, even if the creature’s Charisma score does not normally provide a bonus).

An incorporeal creature can enter or pass through solid objects, but must remain adjacent to the object’s exterior, and so cannot pass entirely through an object whose space is larger than its own. It can sense the presence of creatures or objects within a square adjacent to its current location, but enemies have total concealment (50% miss chance) from an incorporeal creature that is inside an object. In order to see farther from the object it is in and attack normally, the incorporeal creature must emerge. An incorporeal creature inside an object has total cover, but when it attacks a creature outside the object it only has cover, so a creature outside with a readied action could strike at it as it attacks. An incorporeal creature cannot pass through a force effect.

An incorporeal creature’s attacks pass through (ignore) natural armor, armor, and shields, although deflection bonuses and force effects (such as mage armor) work normally against it. Incorporeal creatures pass through and operate in water as easily as they do in air. Incorporeal creatures cannot fall or take falling damage. Incorporeal creatures cannot make trip or grapple attacks, nor can they be tripped or grappled. In fact, they cannot take any physical action that would move or manipulate an opponent or its equipment, nor are they subject to such actions. Incorporeal creatures have no weight and do not set off traps that are triggered by weight.

An incorporeal creature moves silently and cannot be heard with Listen checks if it doesn’t wish to be. It has no Strength score, so its Dexterity modifier applies to both its melee attacks and its ranged attacks. Nonvisual senses, such as scent and blindsight, are either ineffective or only partly effective with regard to incorporeal creatures. Incorporeal creatures have an innate sense of direction and can move at full speed even when they cannot see.The monsters that are incorporeal are in different plane partially. When you die, your not a ghost. It might look like it, but your not.

Tangleweed
02-03-2010, 09:43 AM
Well thats good enough for me :P

asphodeli
02-03-2010, 09:49 AM
It would be nice to give dead people emotes but its probably not a high priority right now.