evilnatas
01-30-2010, 11:49 PM
*less of a "hey this build is neat let me walk you through it" and more of a "hey check this out, any screw ups? suggestions?"*
preface: I am currently about a million xp off of my 2nd tr and am looking to roll a hate tank for my final 36 point build. i've been bouncing around a few build ideas and this one is on the top of my list.
concept: highest possible realistic ac for a viable hate tank. (not particularily able to out hate the highest dps build, but able to generate enough hate to justify dps/hate loss for ac).
class setup: 12monk-7pally-1ranger
initial thoughts: divine righteousness is what will make this build a hate tank,pally6.12monk 1pally 1ranger for optimal ac after aquiring divine righteousness(?).
stats-
base:
STR : 12
DEX : 18
CON : 14
INT : 11
WIS : 16
CHA : 09
tank mode/kamas lvl 20 (for wraps -3 wis, added +3 tome for a round wis while using wraps):
STR : 22 + 6 enh + 2 tome + 2 defender
DEX : 40 + 7 enh + 3 insight + 3 wind(3) + 2 racial + 2 tome + 5 ranks
CON : 22 + 6 enh + 2 tome - 2 wind + 2 defender
INT : 13 + 2 tome
WIS : 31 + 6 enh + 3 insight + 3 tome + 3 monk - 2 wind + 2 defender
CHA : 19 + 6 enh + 2 tome + 2 pally
AC-
10 Base
10 (31)WIS
15 (40)DEX
03 Monk
04 icy
04 Insight
01 Ritual
03 chattering Ring
01 dodge feat
05 Combat Expertise
05 Deflection
08 armor bracers
01 Size
01 Two Weapon Defense
03 pally bulwark of good II
02 defender of siberys I
04 shield
01 haste
03 barkskin
----------
84 self buff kama:CE mode (85FE)
79 self buff kama:no combat stance/pa mode (80FE)
79 self buff wraps:CE mode (80FE)
74 self buff wraps:no combat stance/pa mode (75FE)
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02 full Pally aura
04 Bard
02 recitation
02 full ranger bark
----------
94 full buff kama: CE mode (95FE)
89 full buff kama(no combat stance/pa) mode (90FE)
89 full buff wraps: CE mode (90FE)
84 full buff wraps: no combat stance/pa mode (85FE)
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*kama's are both mineral 2, holy/wisdom 3 and holy/acid burst/insight
hp-
363 base(toughness+enhancements)
60 +6 enhancement
10 gh favor
45 shroud
30 Greater false life
20 minos
----------
528 total
508 -2nd toughness feat
----------
saves-
reflex:
will:
fort:
dps/hate-
the only thing really holding me back from firming up gear/enhancements/race/really the entire build is a determination of potential hate generation in the different combat modes. without doing any math, just looking at the build i feel it should work out fine as is. but having a solid hate total for each combat mode would be nice (ie I need x ammount of seconds before burn so i can generate x ammount of hate on a target taking x amount of hp's from a target with x ammount of hp's). my eyes kind of gloss over when i look at dps charts/% and things. but i'll see what i can do about getting some numbers in here.
dps: smites(#?,90sec refresh) + divine sacrafice(3 sec) + touch of death (15 seconds) + 7.5%insight from wind stance + unarmored(wrap mode)
*could squeeze some dps tod rings in wrap mode at the cost of ac if need be.
*also have extra toughness could replace with past life monk for past life feat(2d8>2d6) or imp crit bludgeon, whichever would net highest increase.
hate: divine righteousness(100%)+defender stance(50%)
*9ish turn undeads
*could squeege another 10% off with tod set item at the cost of ac if need be.
to hit:
-self buff: base 18+15 dex+4 epic spectral+4 greater heroism+1 divine favor+1 haste = 43
-kama: 43+5 weapon = 48/48/53/58
-wraps: +1/+8Gbane = 44/44/49/54-52/52/57/62
-full buff:43+ 2 recitation = 45
-kama: 45 + 5 weapon = 50/50/55/60
-wraps:+1/+8Gbane = 46/46/51/56-54/54/59/64
to damage:
-self buff:+6 strength+1 divine favor+1 monk past life=8
-kama:8+5 weapon=13 (14FE)
-wraps:+1/+8Gbane = 9(10FE)-16(17FE)
-full buff:8+9 bard=17
-kama:17+5 weapon = 22(23FE)
-wraps:+1/+8Gbane = 18(19FE)-25(26FE)
avg damage per swing:
-self buff: 8
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
-full buff: 17
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
swings per minute:
-self buff: haste+wind3
-kama:
-wraps:
-full buff:
-kama:
-wraps:
avg damage per minute:*weapons-weapon affects-divine sacrafice-smite-touch of death-ki attacks-etc.
-self buff:
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
-full buff:
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
Tank mode chart: this will give me a good idea of my ac/dps/hate ratios, and relitave usefullness in different stances/weapon sets. all tanking modes are in wind 3 stance and defender stance.
self buff kama:CE mode 84ac(85FE) to hit:43 dps:? hate:?
self buff kama:no combat stance/PA mode 79ac(80FE) to hit:48/44 dps:? hate:?
self buff wraps:CE mode 79ac(80FE) to hit:39-47 dps:? hate:?
self buff wraps:no combat stance/PA mode 74ac(75FE) to hit:44-52/40-48 dps:? hate:?
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full buff kama: CE mode 94ac(95FE) to hit:45 dps:? hate:?
full buff kama: no combat stance/PA mode 89ac(90FE) to hit:50/46 dps:? hate:?
full buff wraps: CE mode 89ac(90FE) to hit:? dps:? hate:?
full buff wraps: no combat stance/PA mode 84ac(85FE) to hit:? dps:? hate:?
gear-
*pretty loose gear setup, just stuck stuff in to fit profile.
*may need to change some things at the cost of ac to up hate/hp.
finger: nyoko's band(wis6 exceptional dex 3)
finger: chattering ring/eye of the beholder/djinn
neck: oremi's necklace(con6 +1ki on hit)/silver flame
helm: minos (hvy fort+toughness)
wrist: armor +8
boots: ff/strider/golden/firestorm/spiked/etc
trinket: bloodstone/bloodrage/hogf
belt: belt of brute strength (str 6+gfl)
goggles:gs 45 hp prot 5
cloak:cha??
gloves: epic spectral gloves (Ethereal, Dexterity +7, Attack Bonus +4)
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rotbert
Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(7 Paladin \ 12 Monk \ 1 Ranger)
Hit Points: 363
Spell Points: 196
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 23
Will: 19
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 12 14
Dexterity 18 27
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 11 13
Wisdom 16 22
Charisma 9 13
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 12
Bluff -1 1
Concentration 6 32
Diplomacy -1 1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 1
Heal 3 6
Hide 4 10
Intimidate -1 1
Jump 5 22
Listen 3 8
Move Silently 4 10
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 1
Search 0 1
Spot 7 10
Swim 1 2
Tumble 6 31
Use Magic Device 1 12.5
Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Philosophy - Path of Inevitable Domination
Level 5 (Monk)
Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 8 (Paladin)
Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 10 (Paladin)
Level 11 (Paladin)
Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
Level 13 (Paladin)
Level 14 (Paladin)
Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 16 (Monk)
Level 17 (Monk)
Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Level 19 (Monk)
Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose III
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
feats just thrown in kind of random. enhancements will remain pretty much same when i pick up touch of death
preface: I am currently about a million xp off of my 2nd tr and am looking to roll a hate tank for my final 36 point build. i've been bouncing around a few build ideas and this one is on the top of my list.
concept: highest possible realistic ac for a viable hate tank. (not particularily able to out hate the highest dps build, but able to generate enough hate to justify dps/hate loss for ac).
class setup: 12monk-7pally-1ranger
initial thoughts: divine righteousness is what will make this build a hate tank,pally6.12monk 1pally 1ranger for optimal ac after aquiring divine righteousness(?).
stats-
base:
STR : 12
DEX : 18
CON : 14
INT : 11
WIS : 16
CHA : 09
tank mode/kamas lvl 20 (for wraps -3 wis, added +3 tome for a round wis while using wraps):
STR : 22 + 6 enh + 2 tome + 2 defender
DEX : 40 + 7 enh + 3 insight + 3 wind(3) + 2 racial + 2 tome + 5 ranks
CON : 22 + 6 enh + 2 tome - 2 wind + 2 defender
INT : 13 + 2 tome
WIS : 31 + 6 enh + 3 insight + 3 tome + 3 monk - 2 wind + 2 defender
CHA : 19 + 6 enh + 2 tome + 2 pally
AC-
10 Base
10 (31)WIS
15 (40)DEX
03 Monk
04 icy
04 Insight
01 Ritual
03 chattering Ring
01 dodge feat
05 Combat Expertise
05 Deflection
08 armor bracers
01 Size
01 Two Weapon Defense
03 pally bulwark of good II
02 defender of siberys I
04 shield
01 haste
03 barkskin
----------
84 self buff kama:CE mode (85FE)
79 self buff kama:no combat stance/pa mode (80FE)
79 self buff wraps:CE mode (80FE)
74 self buff wraps:no combat stance/pa mode (75FE)
----------
02 full Pally aura
04 Bard
02 recitation
02 full ranger bark
----------
94 full buff kama: CE mode (95FE)
89 full buff kama(no combat stance/pa) mode (90FE)
89 full buff wraps: CE mode (90FE)
84 full buff wraps: no combat stance/pa mode (85FE)
----------
*kama's are both mineral 2, holy/wisdom 3 and holy/acid burst/insight
hp-
363 base(toughness+enhancements)
60 +6 enhancement
10 gh favor
45 shroud
30 Greater false life
20 minos
----------
528 total
508 -2nd toughness feat
----------
saves-
reflex:
will:
fort:
dps/hate-
the only thing really holding me back from firming up gear/enhancements/race/really the entire build is a determination of potential hate generation in the different combat modes. without doing any math, just looking at the build i feel it should work out fine as is. but having a solid hate total for each combat mode would be nice (ie I need x ammount of seconds before burn so i can generate x ammount of hate on a target taking x amount of hp's from a target with x ammount of hp's). my eyes kind of gloss over when i look at dps charts/% and things. but i'll see what i can do about getting some numbers in here.
dps: smites(#?,90sec refresh) + divine sacrafice(3 sec) + touch of death (15 seconds) + 7.5%insight from wind stance + unarmored(wrap mode)
*could squeeze some dps tod rings in wrap mode at the cost of ac if need be.
*also have extra toughness could replace with past life monk for past life feat(2d8>2d6) or imp crit bludgeon, whichever would net highest increase.
hate: divine righteousness(100%)+defender stance(50%)
*9ish turn undeads
*could squeege another 10% off with tod set item at the cost of ac if need be.
to hit:
-self buff: base 18+15 dex+4 epic spectral+4 greater heroism+1 divine favor+1 haste = 43
-kama: 43+5 weapon = 48/48/53/58
-wraps: +1/+8Gbane = 44/44/49/54-52/52/57/62
-full buff:43+ 2 recitation = 45
-kama: 45 + 5 weapon = 50/50/55/60
-wraps:+1/+8Gbane = 46/46/51/56-54/54/59/64
to damage:
-self buff:+6 strength+1 divine favor+1 monk past life=8
-kama:8+5 weapon=13 (14FE)
-wraps:+1/+8Gbane = 9(10FE)-16(17FE)
-full buff:8+9 bard=17
-kama:17+5 weapon = 22(23FE)
-wraps:+1/+8Gbane = 18(19FE)-25(26FE)
avg damage per swing:
-self buff: 8
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
-full buff: 17
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
swings per minute:
-self buff: haste+wind3
-kama:
-wraps:
-full buff:
-kama:
-wraps:
avg damage per minute:*weapons-weapon affects-divine sacrafice-smite-touch of death-ki attacks-etc.
-self buff:
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
-full buff:
-kama:
PA:
-wraps:
PA:
Tank mode chart: this will give me a good idea of my ac/dps/hate ratios, and relitave usefullness in different stances/weapon sets. all tanking modes are in wind 3 stance and defender stance.
self buff kama:CE mode 84ac(85FE) to hit:43 dps:? hate:?
self buff kama:no combat stance/PA mode 79ac(80FE) to hit:48/44 dps:? hate:?
self buff wraps:CE mode 79ac(80FE) to hit:39-47 dps:? hate:?
self buff wraps:no combat stance/PA mode 74ac(75FE) to hit:44-52/40-48 dps:? hate:?
---------------
full buff kama: CE mode 94ac(95FE) to hit:45 dps:? hate:?
full buff kama: no combat stance/PA mode 89ac(90FE) to hit:50/46 dps:? hate:?
full buff wraps: CE mode 89ac(90FE) to hit:? dps:? hate:?
full buff wraps: no combat stance/PA mode 84ac(85FE) to hit:? dps:? hate:?
gear-
*pretty loose gear setup, just stuck stuff in to fit profile.
*may need to change some things at the cost of ac to up hate/hp.
finger: nyoko's band(wis6 exceptional dex 3)
finger: chattering ring/eye of the beholder/djinn
neck: oremi's necklace(con6 +1ki on hit)/silver flame
helm: minos (hvy fort+toughness)
wrist: armor +8
boots: ff/strider/golden/firestorm/spiked/etc
trinket: bloodstone/bloodrage/hogf
belt: belt of brute strength (str 6+gfl)
goggles:gs 45 hp prot 5
cloak:cha??
gloves: epic spectral gloves (Ethereal, Dexterity +7, Attack Bonus +4)
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rotbert
Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(7 Paladin \ 12 Monk \ 1 Ranger)
Hit Points: 363
Spell Points: 196
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 23
Will: 19
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 12 14
Dexterity 18 27
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 11 13
Wisdom 16 22
Charisma 9 13
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 12
Bluff -1 1
Concentration 6 32
Diplomacy -1 1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 1
Heal 3 6
Hide 4 10
Intimidate -1 1
Jump 5 22
Listen 3 8
Move Silently 4 10
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 1
Search 0 1
Spot 7 10
Swim 1 2
Tumble 6 31
Use Magic Device 1 12.5
Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Philosophy - Path of Inevitable Domination
Level 5 (Monk)
Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 8 (Paladin)
Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 10 (Paladin)
Level 11 (Paladin)
Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
Level 13 (Paladin)
Level 14 (Paladin)
Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 16 (Monk)
Level 17 (Monk)
Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Level 19 (Monk)
Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose III
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
feats just thrown in kind of random. enhancements will remain pretty much same when i pick up touch of death