help pls..2wf Warhammer Build

[fearlossPhiction]

Hi , I love warhammers , i know their limitations but I love that thud sound they making when hitting things.

I'm looking for a viable 2wf pally build, race isnt a issue, I have 32pts and soon can tr a char (ftr) so can look at a 34pt build as well.

I'd like to squeeze stunning blow in as well, any suggestions?

[blitzschlag]

Hi , I love warhammers , i know their limitations but I love that thud sound they making when hitting things.

I'm looking for a viable 2wf pally build, race isnt a issue, I have 32pts and soon can tr a char (ftr) so can look at a 34pt build as well.

I'd like to squeeze stunning blow in as well, any suggestions?

well, race is pretty much an issue as you need all feats you can get on a paladin with 2wf.

so i'd recommend going human

feats:
twf
imp twf
greater twf
toughness
oversized twf
force of personality


statwise:
16
15 (need +2 tome before going imp twf)
14
12
8
14

levelups in strength

only downside is that you need wisdom item to cast spells. but thats a non issue really...

oh, missed stunning blow :) might want to swap imp.crit if you got a pair of mintu's

[Gercho]

i would recommend human:

str 16
dex 15
con 14
int 8
wis 8
cha 16

Drop str to 15 for 32 points

feats:

3 twf feats
Power Attack
Improved Critical bludgeoning
Stunning Blow
thoughness
Exten Spell

(otwf is not usually needed, and paladins usually have enough st so FoP is not needed either)

Basically, thats the usual twf paladin human build, but instead of getting EWP Khopesh, you get stunning blow.
(you can respec to khopesh eventually if you want, just trading one feat)

If you plan to go pure pally, you may want to spend 1 level up point in cha, so you can get to cha 20 with a +3 tome and qualify for DM IV.

[AylinIsAwesome]

well, race is pretty much an issue as you need all feats you can get on a paladin with 2wf.

so i'd recommend going human

feats:
twf
imp twf
greater twf
toughness
oversized twf
force of personality


statwise:
16
15 (need +2 tome before going imp twf)
14
12
8
14

levelups in strength

only downside is that you need wisdom item to cast spells. but thats a non issue really...

oh, missed stunning blow :) might want to swap imp.crit if you got a pair of mintu's

Uh... A will save in the upper 20s/low 30s isn't good enough for you? o_O Also OTWF is useless.


i would recommend human:

str 16
dex 15
con 14
int 8
wis 8
cha 16

Drop str to 15 for 32 points

feats:

3 twf feats
Power Attack
Improved Critical bludgeoning
Stunning Blow
thoughness
Exten Spell

(otwf is not usually needed, and paladins usually have enough st so FoP is not needed either)

Basically, thats the usual twf paladin human build, but instead of getting EWP Khopesh, you get stunning blow.
(you can respec to khopesh eventually if you want, just trading one feat)

If you plan to go pure pally, you may want to spend 1 level up point in cha, so you can get to cha 20 with a +3 tome and qualify for DM IV.

This is much better, though I'm still quite dubious on why you'd like to go with Warhammers instead of...well, pretty much anything. >_>

If you do decide to go Khopeshes later though, but would also like to keep Stunning Blow, then I'd drop Extend for it, and then you'd obviously need to switch your Improved Critical: Bludgeon for Slashing. The reason I say that is because Extend is mostly for convenience, and you can definitely get by without it.

Other than that it should be ok... Well, as ok as a Warhammer-user will be I guess. You lose out a lot of the Paladin special attacks with the low crit range, so it's not something I'd be able to do myself.

*Shrug.*