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Anati
01-25-2010, 10:30 PM
So I was running a female elven lowbie over the weekend, and I get this:
RandomPerson: hey cutie
Me: hey
(I'm wondering if this is a friend messing with me.)
RandomPerson: so m or f?
(I'm still wondering who the heck this is.)
Me: both actually
RandomPerson: ?
Me: married and female
RandomPerson: married huh?
Me: yep, happily
/squelch
Any of you ladies (the real kind, not the cute elf kind with the deep voices) get this?
Lorien_the_First_One
01-25-2010, 10:36 PM
I'm male, but one of my first characters was a female human cleric (I always pick male melee, female caster, don't know why, just feels right)
During my first month when I was still unknown and unguilded and I didn't have a mic at the time, and I must have had some guy try to pick me up at least once a day. On the positive side, if I just ignored it and didn't comment at all when they flirted they often gave me free stuff to try and gain my favor. :p
There was even one guy who I ran with a lot who specifically told me not to tell him if I was male or female right after he flirted the first time lol.
Dieseltrain
01-25-2010, 10:39 PM
best gender and class is a female cleric :)
More often then none don't use ur mic, you will get free plat, wands, and elixir pots.
MrWizard
01-25-2010, 10:42 PM
age: 4 years
sex: male
location: amrath
oh...thought this was a a/s/l thread
Dieseltrain
01-25-2010, 10:43 PM
age: 4 years
sex: male
location: amrath
oh...thought this was a a/s/l thread
Lol
Kalari
01-25-2010, 10:46 PM
lol Mr Wizard
havent had anyone send me a tell just had the cassanova types once they heard my voice try to pick me up. Sometimes its funny sometimes its creepy most of the time if someone gets out of line I put them in their place if not my guild mates are very protective as well. Ive lucked out though I really dont put myself out there if I flirt I keep it amongst friends I feel safe doing so with.
But yeah it happens most of the time it makes me giggle.
Timjc86
01-25-2010, 10:47 PM
I myself am not a female nor do I play female characters, but my first guild thought I was a girl for a couple of months (in my defense, I had not hooked up my mic just yet). I never got any such comments from them, but most of them were ladies themselves.
I can't comment on random tells specifically, however there have been three or four times where I've been in a group with a female player using voice chat who gets hit on by that random pugger (sometimes semi seriously). It can be funny at times, but usually it's just annoying.
I just ALWAYS assume the person behind the half naked elf chick is a guy... because it usually is. In those few cases where it's not, I try to suppress my awkward geek tendencies and be as normal as possible. :D
Symar-FangofLloth
01-25-2010, 10:48 PM
I haven't had anyone hit on me since I started playing again in October.
Unless you count that guy the other day who was a level 4 pally or such and invited my level 20 FvS to his group and kept telling me he was ready to protect and defend me.
I decided to humor him (he wanted to do a quest after all) and took him into Kobold Assault on Elite (which I needed for favor anyway). Between my Blade Barriers and Hezrou, I think the pally only got 4 kills :p.
I did /squelch him though, for a day, because he wouldn't leave me alone. Haven't heard from him since.
And I can't remember enough details about way back, but I doubt I had any, if many, happen then either.
Dieseltrain
01-25-2010, 10:56 PM
In all honesty, I have had a former guildy back when Mabar existed constantly hitting on me talking about her personal life and marrage blah blah blah. Got very annoying after awhile so left the guild.
MrWizard
01-26-2010, 01:03 AM
i knew a guy who would start a new toon, unguilded, and act 'in type' as a girl, with no mic.
He would get people to give him all sorts of gear, throw him money, etc... amazing.
He would be coddled by these guys trying to show off and was able to just sit in a dungeon and not do anything to get completion..
unreal
Nouda_EU
01-26-2010, 01:22 AM
bqah i never get any free stuff! maybe its because ido whitter on mic!
though memorable i was off come and i said something was cute and a party memeber said well if your not a girls im worried :P
DoctorWhofan
01-26-2010, 01:33 AM
Not here but in WoW I had an experiance. I was in the Lowbee Dwarf area with a female dwarf when this low level gnome came up to me and started to follow me. Then on General chat started to discribe my...ehem...huge tracts of land and how seccy I was on my character while I was questing. I asked him to stop it, then I reported it and said so, all on general.
Then I was a wh*ore who "slept" with my bear ( I was a hunter). I reported to the GMs again, and he continued to stalk me for over an hour relentlessly. THe other players nearby thought it was amusing. I never got a response form the GMs there.
Wonder why I don't play it, and have a low opinion of the game.
Bosco
01-26-2010, 01:39 AM
So I was running a female elven lowbie over the weekend, and I get this:
RandomPerson: hey cutie
Me: hey
(I'm wondering if this is a friend messing with me.)
RandomPerson: so m or f?
(I'm still wondering who the heck this is.)
Me: both actually
RandomPerson: ?
Me: married and female
RandomPerson: married huh?
Me: yep, happily
/squelch
Any of you ladies (the real kind, not the cute elf kind with the deep voices) get this?
Well wisconsin prison banned DND but maybe a few other states are more lenient. After all it is free to play you never now. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=226973
Kirachan
01-26-2010, 02:09 AM
I play a female dwarf cleric. Nothing keeps guys from hitting on you as a female dwarf. :D
Brahmina
01-26-2010, 02:29 AM
I haven't had problems in this game but I did playing EverQuest way back when it first came out. I was 13 yrs old and when the guys found out they sorta just left me alone. When I was 15 and 16 and still playing it, the young teen guys started up with me and I had a few problems with a few of them. But after a while they stopped and just became online game friends.
Halo_572
01-26-2010, 05:01 AM
Everyone knows that girls don't play D&D or computer games, but I must admit some of you are very convincing.
I always find it a bit creepy to play a female avatar, so I don't think I actually ever have, but each to their own.
Alyzza
01-26-2010, 05:08 AM
Well Im a female, and my three chars are female, but for some reason everybody calls me *he* in-game. I ususally don/t care, but sometimes it gets really annoying and I have to inform my fellow partymembers that I actually am a chick :p
In EverQuest I had a friend (female) and we were close enough that I was logged into her account/character on many occasions; her main was a sexy EQ wood elf. While logged in as her, I once got a tell from some random stranger nearby... I replied to him "don't you know that any 'girl' that plays this game is, in real life, 400 pounds and named Bob or John or somesuch?". That was the last I heard of him.
Ardaniel
01-26-2010, 07:30 AM
I joined a Tempest Spine run on my cleric a few months back and piped up over voice chat about how I'm new and this was my first run. I didn't say anything after that. A few minutes into the raid I get a tell from a guy in the raid telling me I should speak more since my voice and accent was "cute"
Kept me from saying anything at all again till we finished and I left with a "thank you for the run, was fun" :D
picaisfun
01-26-2010, 07:38 AM
I can't help it. Female warforged are so hot.
Fennario
01-26-2010, 08:00 AM
I play a female dwarf cleric. Nothing keeps guys from hitting on you as a female dwarf. :D
I don't know... couple shots of Dirty Kobold and those dwarven fillies start looking good.
TataLebuj
01-26-2010, 08:02 AM
Well Im a female, and my three chars are female, but for some reason everybody calls me *he* in-game. I ususally don/t care, but sometimes it gets really annoying and I have to inform my fellow partymembers that I actually am a chick :p
Because, as someone posted above, there are no females playing DDO or computer games. There are some men that are quite convincing though.
And as long as I continue to think this way I will NEVER have to worry about doing/saying anything stupid. And not my normal stupid things, I'm talking about those forum posts of in game chats where the "girl" reveals after several months that they are actually a guy and they shame/name all the wierdo's. I haven't seen it here, but I did in Planetside on Werner. Very strange and it taught me to just imagine everyone that plays the game is a guy. Besides, it's not like I'm ever going to meet any of you people in RL, so what do I care if you are a boy or girl?? Let's just play the game and have fun in our escapism.
Cheers,
SirAggravator
01-26-2010, 08:12 AM
A long time ago I pugged with someone who was new to DDO and really chatty on voice asking lots
of questions on how things work. So I decided to invite them to the guild as they were friendly enough.
Embarrassingly I wasn't sure if they were a boy or a girl. The voice was high enough to be a girl or a young boy
with a squeeky voice. In the end a guildie found out it was a boy - I never had the nerve to ask what sex they were - not that it mattered apart from not being able to say he/she but they :D
Inkblack
01-26-2010, 08:19 AM
...
RandomPerson: married huh?
Me: yep, happily
...
Woot! My ego just got a boost! (I am happily married, also... to the OP.)
I am glad that these stories are relatively rare. Most of the DDO playerbase is a pretty good crowd. Of course there will always be bad apples, but it seems that other games have more of them.
Ink
techwench
01-26-2010, 08:30 AM
Female, and never had anyone send me a random tell about it. My cleric is male, though, and I do get the "So...why do you play an old guy that looks like Kenny Rogers, anyway?" in game a lot. But that's about it.
Elyanna
01-26-2010, 08:36 AM
Woot! My ego just got a boost! (I am happily married, also... to the OP.)
I am glad that these stories are relatively rare. Most of the DDO playerbase is a pretty good crowd. Of course there will always be bad apples, but it seems that other games have more of them.
Ink
You two really should have been teleported to Twilight Forge by me over the weekend. I wish I would have tried it but you know I just wanted to get that shroud over seeing as I need to run a bloody ton of them now to get more stuff crafted for my army of Guys and Girls.
As for the male/female avatar thing, for me it's a how I envision the character I am making. One of the best examples of this is Cammie. A cute little halfling woman who uses her cuteness to get cheaper things from vendors and uses it to make people think she's no threat at all until... PEW PEW PEW... the repeater strikes them down.
Happosaai
01-26-2010, 08:37 AM
Awww, and here I was hoping this would be a dating thread :p
Really tho, I don't care what sex you are. I'm just here to have fun playing the game, not cybering ;)
Gossamerblade
01-26-2010, 09:27 AM
Female here, with mostly (but not all) female characters. When I'm not soloing, I play almost exclusively with guildies who are RL friends.
Once, a while back, a random person in-game asked if I was really a girl. When I said yes, they said, "So...what are you wearing now?" to which I replied, "I'm also a mom whose kids play DDO. Get lost or get reported." He (I'm assuming it was a he) logged off quickly.
My husband plays mostly female characters also, and no one has ever asked, implied, or assumed that he was anything but a man.
Psyk0sisS
01-26-2010, 09:43 AM
Back when I was playin EQ, I made a Female Halfling Rogue as my first ever online character. It's what I always rolled up on any other game, such as Baulders Gate or Icewind Dale. I didn't think anything of it, and that game has no voice chat. I'm pretty articulate and "bubbly" when text-based chatting, I always put the emoticons in for smiles and such. Apparently that translates to Female Gamer, and this one guy saw me in the newbie area for Halflings and helped me out with some cash and some gear I could use. He spent the next year or more trying to cyber me when he was drunk I assume, I always politely declined. I never told anyone my real sex if they didn't ask cause I thought it was funny, and guys are always willing to help you if they think you're a hot and polite chick LOL! It wasn't until I joined a raiding guild at the end of my career that people started to find out I was a guy (my main guild knew of course).
All I can say is, I'm glad there is voice chat now in game. Also, the reason I moslty play female characters is 1)Why would I want to stare at a guy's butt the whole time I'm playing and 2)if I do play a guy, its a tank class.
when I was logged into my wife's toon....was kinda funny when I said +4 Mithral Fullplate of Lesser Acid Resistance....
and if you meant me, I'm sitting here in my boxers resisting the urge to scratch myself you idiot....same response, left group and logged out almost immediately.....does give me some appreciation for what you gals have to deal with tho, I have a couple of female toons, but I make sure and speak right away in pugs to make sure there is no gray area.
Don't understand the urge to turn online games into online dating services......if you need a date, get off the computer and go out, if not, shut up and play the dang game :)
Caine52184
01-26-2010, 09:48 AM
So I was running a female elven lowbie over the weekend, and I get this:
RandomPerson: hey cutie
Me: hey
(I'm wondering if this is a friend messing with me.)
RandomPerson: so m or f?
(I'm still wondering who the heck this is.)
Me: both actually
RandomPerson: ?
Me: married and female
RandomPerson: married huh?
Me: yep, happily
/squelch
Any of you ladies (the real kind, not the cute elf kind with the deep voices) get this?
It wasnt a monk was it lol? I got the same kind of tell about a week ago in the Phoenix Tavern. I found it odd lol.
Gnorbert
01-26-2010, 09:54 AM
lol Mr Wizard
havent had anyone send me a tell just had the cassanova types once they heard my voice try to pick me up. Sometimes its funny sometimes its creepy most of the time if someone gets out of line I put them in their place if not my guild mates are very protective as well. Ive lucked out though I really dont put myself out there if I flirt I keep it amongst friends I feel safe doing so with.
But yeah it happens most of the time it makes me giggle.
Hi... How you doin'? [/Joey]
Razcar
01-26-2010, 09:58 AM
i knew a guy who would start a new toon, unguilded, and act 'in type' as a girl, with no mic.
He would get people to give him all sorts of gear, throw him money, etc... amazing.
He would be coddled by these guys trying to show off and was able to just sit in a dungeon and not do anything to get completion..
unreal
http://www.noobz-online.com/comic/en14.jpg
Burradin
01-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Had a male guildy once that was gay and would not quit hitting on other male guildies. I have gay friends in real life and since I am not gay, they seem to know not to hit on me and be friends. Why couldn't this guy get the clue. Of course, last I heard, he paid Turbine to change his toon's names because I might have told him to get a life somewhat forcefully. Heard he was scared of me. Funny, since I live in Ky and he lives in California. Jokes between friends, flirts between friends, all cool. Pestering someone, making rude comments to someone you don't know or you know does not accept the comments, not cool and person needs a clue.
As someone said above, this is an adventure game, not a sex game or sex chat room, they have those somewhere else and I paid to play a DnD adventure game.
Bogenbroom
01-26-2010, 10:15 AM
I gotta admit, I have a neuroses about the m/f character thing. Playing a female character just makes me feel creepy. I have *1* female character and she is my mule. Feel creepy everytime I log in with her.
Hellmoob
01-26-2010, 10:19 AM
Yeah, you freaks, keep the perving where it belongs.
...
At work!
Sir_Chonas
01-26-2010, 10:20 AM
I think this thread should be locked. It's about genitalia.
I'm a male, I play male characters. Dressing as a female is transvestitism. I do not support it.
Shamurai
01-26-2010, 10:27 AM
It wasnt a monk was it lol? I got the same kind of tell about a week ago in the Phoenix Tavern. I found it odd lol.
Shamurai (aka ME) - ALL MALE BABY!
---
Heidiann (Pal 20) - Female and Gorgeous!
Shamurai (Sor 17) - Male and Dorky
Faithrune (Clr 10) - Female and Socially Awkward
Samuiree (Ftr 8/ Rog 2) - Female and Spunky/ Impulsive (AKA ~ BWA ~ B*tch with Attitude)
---
I'll admit I totally hit on Caine.. shes HAWT!! LOL!! (she's gonna beat me, dwarven style, for that!)
Honestly, I like having a female in a group. I think most guys are yucky and should have rocks thrown at them half the time. As long as everyone is having fun I don't care who or what you are, though.
Blackbird
01-26-2010, 10:36 AM
I'm a female with all female characters. I do use voice chat. I can't say I've had anyone specifically try to "pick me up" but I have had the following experiences:
1. Been given lots of stuff
2. Flirted with me in party (note, most of the time I play with my husband, Freeman, who seems to find this very amusing, especially when he's in party).
3. Been told I will be "protected" by a melee class in the party (usually while on my cleric).
When this does happen it is usually from a younger player. I find most of the older guys are more interested in loot :p Most of this tends to happen at lower levels but I was in the Shroud the other day with my FvS when someone gave me a small shard that I wanted (even though someone else in the party needed one too) and told me he wished he could give me some of the medium shards he had, but alas they were bound. :) I never turn down free loot. :D
I honestly just find it amusing. It's sweet in a way. No one has gotten so bad that I have to squelch them. Since most of my characters are high level, I tend to avoid most it since I tend to run with my guild or guilds/people I know. Freeman does complain that I always get free stuff though. :rolleyes:
Caine52184
01-26-2010, 10:49 AM
Shamurai (aka ME) - ALL MALE BABY!
Glad to hear that you're all male shammie :p i'd be worried otherwise lol.
Heidiann (Pal 20) - Female and Gorgeous!
Shamurai (Sor 17) - Male and Dorky
Faithrune (Clr 10) - Female and Socially Awkward
Samuiree (Ftr 8/ Rog 2) - Female and Spunky/ Impulsive (AKA ~ BWA ~ B*tch with Attitude)
---
Aw..a new one? I havent met Samuriee yet :).
I'll admit I totally hit on Caine.. shes HAWT!! LOL!! (she's gonna beat me, dwarven style, for that!)
Watch it pal...my dwarves legs may be short but she runs fast :p
Honestly, I like having a female in a group. I think most guys are yucky and should have rocks thrown at them half the time. As long as everyone is having fun I don't care who or what you are, though.
Guys arent yucky...well OK..maybe some are :D. But I can go either way with females/males in a group. I usually enjoy when there are other females around because it doesnt happen too often but im just as comfy with a party full of guys :).
Too bad you werent around last night...Havoric and I ran a late Hound. It just wasnt the same without you ;)
Psyk0sisS
01-26-2010, 10:56 AM
I think this thread should be locked. It's about genitalia.
I'm a male, I play male characters. Dressing as a female is transvestitism. I do not support it.
I tend to call a male playing a female character a "Mangina". Transvestite seems a bit rough since it is only pixles :p lol
Shamurai
01-26-2010, 11:32 AM
Guys arent yucky...well OK..maybe some are :D. But I can go either way with females/males in a group. I usually enjoy when there are other females around because it doesnt happen too often but im just as comfy with a party full of guys :).
Too bad you werent around last night...Havoric and I ran a late Hound. It just wasnt the same without you ;)
Oooh Hound!! I got 2 that are up for that grrr.... I was on Faithy last night as my co workers needed some healing ~ They = Squishy and our tanks are a bow only ranger (ugh) and a pure rogue trap monkey...
Yes Samuiree is a new one, and lots of fun. I also have:
Virtutity - (FvS 2) for a different group of friends I've converted from RS to DDO
BigHeap (WF)- (Wiz 4/ Rog 1) new toon that's not bound to any set group so I play him while waiting for Raid Timers to go off and when my "bound to static group" toons aren't questing with their group.
*Note... I was able to even in forum post a "hit on" Caine and only got a stern warning...*End Note*
Kalari
01-26-2010, 11:43 AM
Female here, with mostly (but not all) female characters. When I'm not soloing, I play almost exclusively with guildies who are RL friends.
Once, a while back, a random person in-game asked if I was really a girl. When I said yes, they said, "So...what are you wearing now?" to which I replied, "I'm also a mom whose kids play DDO. Get lost or get reported." He (I'm assuming it was a he) logged off quickly.
My husband plays mostly female characters also, and no one has ever asked, implied, or assumed that he was anything but a man.
I would have said a poncho with baby barf on it lol I also stress that im not looking and that I am a mom Ive joked with my guild mates that I should get my son on the mic to do his scream technique if someone is overly flirty and say "you know he needs a papa" lol. But nah in all the games ive enjoyed only DDO is tame when it comes to over zealous guys and there are a lot of really decent guys who play and know better then to go gaga over women. The few who do already have reps on my server and we know to avoid em.
DoctorWhofan
01-26-2010, 11:50 AM
Shamurai (aka ME) - ALL MALE BABY!
---
Heidiann (Pal 20) - Female and Gorgeous!
Shamurai (Sor 17) - Male and Dorky
Faithrune (Clr 10) - Female and Socially Awkward
Samuiree (Ftr 8/ Rog 2) - Female and Spunky/ Impulsive (AKA ~ BWA ~ B*tch with Attitude)
---
I'll admit I totally hit on Caine.. shes HAWT!! LOL!! (she's gonna beat me, dwarven style, for that!)
Honestly, I like having a female in a group. I think most guys are yucky and should have rocks thrown at them half the time. As long as everyone is having fun I don't care who or what you are, though.
Is this where I put up a disclaimer about you being in my guild?? :p;):D
FriedDan
01-26-2010, 11:57 AM
Can't resist chiming in.
The first and last time I played a female character was in '92. I was playing a MUD (for those who don't know, that means not only no voice chat, there was just scrolling text to see who was who). It was great for a while, lots of free stuff, lots of help leveling... one guy in particular (whose characters' name was Arvon), was very helpful and attentive
Then one day my housemate (who really was female) who also played the game, came up to me and said "you have to tell Arvon you're really a guy".
"Why?" I asked
"Because he's flying out here next week to visit me".
They didn't even invite me to the wedding :P (although in their defense they did live together long enough before marriage for us to be pretty far apart)
Garund
01-26-2010, 12:10 PM
Woot! My ego just got a boost! (I am happily married, also... to the OP.)
I am glad that these stories are relatively rare. Most of the DDO playerbase is a pretty good crowd. Of course there will always be bad apples, but it seems that other games have more of them.
Ink
Ink, you do know she was just being nice. She's still mad you're not finished with the "Honey Do" list yet:D
Gar
Rylex_Night-Shield
01-26-2010, 12:46 PM
As a guy that's plays a few female toons, I have had the occasional "hey babe, where are you from" tells in the harbor. Seems a pretty desperate move by a desperate person.
However, having a woman in the party does seem to liven it up a bit. I enjoy it when one of them starts talking "nerdy" to us in the party... :) That, and it's cute when you hear one rant about "that **** kobold rogue just backstabbed me. ME! He can't do that to me. No one touch him, I'm going to F him up now...". *heh*
However, when I was doing SOS once with a mostly other guild run, they invited a female drow sorc that was in their guild into the party. I didn't think much about it until we started voice chatting and she spoke. Her voice.... her voice was like.... if you dipped a rainbow into a chocolate river, then sprinkled it with pure virgin sugar, added butter rich carmel on top and finished it off with heaps of glucose on top. I have NEVER heard a woman that sounded so "girly" in my whole life, even when I've heard other women try to act so sweet. Her voice was so perky, bubbly, and high it jerked my spine a couple of times and I did a few body shudders. I had to send a tell to one of the party guys in her guild if that was REALLY her voice. He told me yeah, is there something wrong? I said, I've never heard anyone talk like that before. He said yeah, it takes some getting used to, doesn't it? I laughed at him, I was glad I wasn't the only one that felt that way. Still, she was an awesome player but one of the few times I wish I hadn't heard a woman talk in party chat... :)
Ranger57
01-26-2010, 12:50 PM
Soon after F2P was released, I was running a new low level female cleric.
I started a group and when it was full I announced (in voice) that we were heading for the door, etc.
Even though I am male, all my clerics have been female.
One of the newbie players responded with "who said that?".
I replied "The leader".
In a slightly hushed voice the new player replied "I don't understand, I keep hearing a MAN's voice!!".
I was speechless, ROFL.
Dose being a Warforged M or F matter????
If so....... why?????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
FriedDan
01-26-2010, 01:08 PM
Dose being a Warforged M or F matter????
If so....... why?????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
It's still all about inserting tab A into slot B.... with warforged its just a lot more literal.
DoctorWhofan
01-26-2010, 01:11 PM
Soon after F2P was released, I was running a new low level female cleric.
I started a group and when it was full I announced (in voice) that we were heading for the door, etc.
Even though I am male, all my clerics have been female.
One of the newbie players responded with "who said that?".
I replied "The leader".
In a slightly hushed voice the new player replied "I don't understand, I keep hearing a MAN's voice!!".
I was speechless, ROFL.
Even funnier...Playing a male character and a high pitched female voice comes across.
New player: YOu're a GIRL??
ME: All my life, rather RL
NEW PLAYER: Why don't you play a girl?
ME: Why don't you guys play guys?
<<silence>>
PLAYER 2: Cuz females are hot! Even pixilated ones!
The party charcter slots were all FEMALE, but I was the only RL female in the group!
and I submit to you this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdhzRv8ZyTY
Inkblack
01-26-2010, 01:21 PM
and I submit to you this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdhzRv8ZyTY
Anati and I were joking about the Stormreach Dating Game when she first told me the story. My search-fu skills failed me though...
Glad you found it, it still cracks me up!
Ink
Shamurai
01-26-2010, 01:21 PM
As a guy that's plays a few female toons, I have had the occasional "hey babe, where are you from" tells in the harbor. Seems a pretty desperate move by a desperate person.
However, having a woman in the party does seem to liven it up a bit. I enjoy it when one of them starts talking "nerdy" to us in the party... :) That, and it's cute when you hear one rant about "that **** kobold rogue just backstabbed me. ME! He can't do that to me. No one touch him, I'm going to F him up now...". *heh*
However, when I was doing SOS once with a mostly other guild run, they invited a female drow sorc that was in their guild into the party. I didn't think much about it until we started voice chatting and she spoke. Her voice.... her voice was like.... if you dipped a rainbow into a chocolate river, then sprinkled it with pure virgin sugar, added butter rich carmel on top and finished it off with heaps of glucose on top. I have NEVER heard a woman that sounded so "girly" in my whole life, even when I've heard other women try to act so sweet. Her voice was so perky, bubbly, and high it jerked my spine a couple of times and I did a few body shudders. I had to send a tell to one of the party guys in her guild if that was REALLY her voice. He told me yeah, is there something wrong? I said, I've never heard anyone talk like that before. He said yeah, it takes some getting used to, doesn't it? I laughed at him, I was glad I wasn't the only one that felt that way. Still, she was an awesome player but one of the few times I wish I hadn't heard a woman talk in party chat... :)
+1 Rep for such an awesome description of a voice. I had that experience with a clan mate in Runescape looong ago. she used to run "Boss Runs" with me and a few friends for a few weeks until one day she said she finally got Teamspeak and aked if she could join our TS. We said sure and when she came on.. See description above.. was almost unsettling how such an angelic voiced character could rip apart Bosses like a German Panzer... and oooh when she giggled after dropping the boss with a final shot... I wonder if she switched to DDO... cuz that description is soooo familiar!
EEEEP I hope I didn't offend DrWhoFan. I hold Women.. ALL WOMEN even the ones that have ****ed me off (at some point) in the HIGHEST realms of respect.
Caine52184
01-26-2010, 01:37 PM
+1 Rep for such an awesome description of a voice. I had that experience with a clan mate in Runescape looong ago. she used to run "Boss Runs" with me and a few friends for a few weeks until one day she said she finally got Teamspeak and aked if she could join our TS. We said sure and when she came on.. See description above.. was almost unsettling how such an angelic voiced character could rip apart Bosses like a German Panzer... and oooh when she giggled after dropping the boss with a final shot... I wonder if she switched to DDO... cuz that description is soooo familiar!
It's so cute to see how you guys get over female voices lol. He did do a great job describing her voice lol. Ya know we do the same thing :D m not the type to get all giddy and girly over a guys voice..with an exception of a few :eek: lol. There are a few voices that stand out for sure on Thelanis..and a few over on Khyber. I saw a post recently by someone name Spell..it seems as though he is THE voice...too bad I havent gotten to hear it lol.
I can think of one female voice on Thelanis that makes me want to bang my head on a wall :(..seriously! I'd rather hear nails scratching on a board.
Shamurai
01-26-2010, 01:44 PM
It's so cute to see how you guys get over female voices lol. He did do a great job describing her voice lol. Ya know we do the same thing :D m not the type to get all giddy and girly over a guys voice..with an exception of a few :eek: lol. There are a few voices that stand out for sure on Thelanis..and a few over on Khyber. I saw a post recently by someone name Spell..it seems as though he is THE voice...too bad I havent gotten to hear it lol.
I can think of one female voice on Thelanis that makes me want to bang my head on a wall :(..seriously! I'd rather hear nails scratching on a board.
Due to the anonymity of the internet and the addendum anonymity of Forums I'm going to claim the :eek: Voice Caine previously mentioned.. TYVM ~ bowing ~ was my pleasure ... I want to thank the little people that made it all possible... ~waiting for applause to die down~
Back to reality... next time yer on.. you better grab me and make me run something with you. I got my next Cyber Crush (That I'll never mention out loud) to work through LOL.. (I am kidding I hope you know ~ well not about about grabbing me for a quest, but about the crush thingee LOL)
Shaamis
01-26-2010, 02:09 PM
I play a female dwarf cleric. Nothing keeps guys from hitting on you as a female dwarf. :D
Oh Shaamis begs to differ!
:D
Dwarven women are ALL Shaamis likes!
Shaamis however, has superior concentration, and never lets anyone know.
wait......oops..........
seriously, leave the women alone everyone, this is the main reason why there AREN't a lot of women players.
Be cordial, but treat them like one of the guys.
Sir_Chonas
01-26-2010, 02:14 PM
I think the main reason there aren't that many women players is because not enough men have gotten enough women interested in the game.
When I come across a female player I say, "so was it your boyfriend/husband or brother that got you into the game?" And I've had 1/100 people answer something other than those two choices.
Kalari
01-26-2010, 02:18 PM
I know it may seem as much of a surprise that women play this game.
But some of us came because we like dungeons and dragons
Ive always stated that im a nerdy girl have been all my life, ive also been what was classified as a "Tom boy" had more guy friends then girls blah blah. Even though I do have my feminine side at times I do like to game have since playing on my dad's Atari system then finally getting my first console an original NES.
I was more of a Legend of Zelda fan then mario love rpg love puzzles love games that made me think.
Yes I didnt get into pen and paper before I met my ex husband only because of the stigma my family put on Dungeons and Dragons but was well after I left my ex that I found ddo.
so yeah many women maybe brought in by boyfriends the like, some of us just want to game and we found ddo on our own. I know I know our fragile little female minds shouldnt be able to do so, guess im just not normal lol
Inkblack
01-26-2010, 02:18 PM
Oh Shaamis begs to differ!
:D
Dwarven women are ALL Shaamis likes!
Shaamis however, has superior concentration, and never lets anyone know.
wait......oops..........
seriously, leave the women alone everyone, this is the main reason why there AREN't a lot of women players.
Be cordial, but treat them like one of the guys.
Darn, you saw it. Anati was going to post to Ask Shaamis about that one...
dragonmane
01-26-2010, 02:19 PM
Woot! My ego just got a boost! (I am happily married, also... to the OP.)
I am glad that these stories are relatively rare. Most of the DDO playerbase is a pretty good crowd. Of course there will always be bad apples, but it seems that other games have more of them.
Ink
I tried to get my wife to play, but she hates video games. She also believes that there are no girls playing. She's crazy, but I love her. Just to make her mad though, I got my daughter playing ;-)
Caine52184
01-26-2010, 02:51 PM
I think the main reason there aren't that many women players is because not enough men have gotten enough women interested in the game.
When I come across a female player I say, "so was it your boyfriend/husband or brother that got you into the game?" And I've had 1/100 people answer something other than those two choices.
This is me :D. One of my male friends introduced me to this game. I never knew a thing about DnD...and honestly thought anyone who liked it or played it was weird lol. (close minded) Silly silly me...i've been cracked out ever since and consider myself one of "those" lol. I'm still not a nerdy gamer girl - not that anything is wrong with being a nerdy gamer girl...im just a girl that happens to like playing DDO.
DoctorWhofan
01-26-2010, 02:54 PM
I know it may seem as much of a surprise that women play this game.
But some of us came because we like dungeons and dragons
Ive always stated that im a nerdy girl have been all my life, ive also been what was classified as a "Tom boy" had more guy friends then girls blah blah. Even though I do have my feminine side at times I do like to game have since playing on my dad's Atari system then finally getting my first console an original NES.
I was more of a Legend of Zelda fan then mario love rpg love puzzles love games that made me think.
Yes I didnt get into pen and paper before I met my ex husband only because of the stigma my family put on Dungeons and Dragons but was well after I left my ex that I found ddo.
so yeah many women maybe brought in by boyfriends the like, some of us just want to game and we found ddo on our own. I know I know our fragile little female minds shouldnt be able to do so, guess im just not normal lol
WOOT!!! not the only one! NErd Gurls RULZ!
techwench
01-26-2010, 03:26 PM
I think the main reason there aren't that many women players is because not enough men have gotten enough women interested in the game.
When I come across a female player I say, "so was it your boyfriend/husband or brother that got you into the game?" And I've had 1/100 people answer something other than those two choices.
I was the one that actually got my husband interested in the game. He's more of a Left 4 Dead type, but after I started playing, he installed the game and started playing because it was the only way he'd be able to play a video game that wasn't Farm Town with me. LOL.
Blackbird
01-26-2010, 03:27 PM
I know it may seem as much of a surprise that women play this game.
But some of us came because we like dungeons and dragons
Ive always stated that im a nerdy girl have been all my life, ive also been what was classified as a "Tom boy" had more guy friends then girls blah blah. Even though I do have my feminine side at times I do like to game have since playing on my dad's Atari system then finally getting my first console an original NES.
I was more of a Legend of Zelda fan then mario love rpg love puzzles love games that made me think.
Yes I didnt get into pen and paper before I met my ex husband only because of the stigma my family put on Dungeons and Dragons but was well after I left my ex that I found ddo.
so yeah many women maybe brought in by boyfriends the like, some of us just want to game and we found ddo on our own. I know I know our fragile little female minds shouldnt be able to do so, guess im just not normal lol
Me too :) Although my husband did sort of get me into the DDO itself. We played PnP before DDO for a few years but we had never played a MMO before. We had played NWN together and he mentioned that DDO was coming out and I said for D&D I would be willing to try a MMO (I was mostly opposed to the idea of buying a game and then paying to play it since I had only ever played console/PC games before).
I too love Zelda, am a "Tom Boy", and have traditionally had more male friends than female ones. I do have my girly moments though :) Love a good craft fair and wear feminine clothes :)
Kalari
01-26-2010, 03:34 PM
Me too :) Although my husband did sort of get me into the DDO itself. We played PnP before DDO for a few years but we had never played a MMO before. We had played NWN together and he mentioned that DDO was coming out and I said for D&D I would be willing to try a MMO (I was mostly opposed to the idea of buying a game and then paying to play it since I had only ever played console/PC games before).
I too love Zelda, am a "Tom Boy", and have traditionally had more male friends than female ones. I do have my girly moments though :) Love a good craft fair and wear feminine clothes :)
^_^ See just like Drwhofan as well we women do exist we may not be like your run of the mill type girls who think dnd and gaming is guy only we are the girls who sat in campaigns with you and enjoyed ourselves and found ourselves drawn to ddo because its Dungeons and Dragons.
We are out there guys but just like you just want to game, if I want to date I will put myself out there in the real world where I know for sure if im dating a knight or a troll :p I have seen couples spawn from games and online but not what im looking for. As most can see I get angry at times and getting in game to take things out helps that :) not faulting those who find love in games more power to you im looking to hurt things :D
Oh and there are girls like Caine to who may not have had the same experiences but likes our game so try not to be creeps and scare us off its enough of a sausage fest in this game as it is :)
Shaamis
01-26-2010, 03:48 PM
Darn, you saw it. Anati was going to post to Ask Shaamis about that one...
Shaamis is on Sexy Female dwarf alert 24/7.
It's one of his Drunken style martial arts enhancements.
:D
Seriously, I have sat down at gaming tables with women who are fantastic role-players, I have no doubt women are some of the best PnP/MMO gamers out there....
I just wish there were more!
more female Dwarven Clerics that is.
.....or female Dwarven bards.....
.....or female Dwarven rogues.....
.....or female Dwarven Sorcerors (RAWR.).....
.........you get the idea.
unionyes
01-26-2010, 03:56 PM
I wanted to post a pic here, but I don't have time to photoshop the offending word out, so I will describe it instead :)
So a very famous male pornstar is sitting in front of his computer. He is wearing a white t shirt, looking up over the monitor with a knowing smile. On his t shirt are the words, 'I'm the 18 year old girl you (somethinged) off to in that chatroom last night'.
But seriously, gender of the player should not ever be a concern in this game. If you are on here looking for a date, you probably would be better served on eharmony, lavalife, or one of the other dating sites out there.
Shaamis
01-26-2010, 04:00 PM
so try not to be creeps and scare us off its enough of a sausage fest in this game as it is :)
QFT 100%
The women i play online with seem to be a lot more focused than most of the guys!
techknowannie
01-26-2010, 04:54 PM
I play a female dwarf cleric. Nothing keeps guys from hitting on you as a female dwarf. :D
so true, and I have had party members not be able to tell if my dwarf was female or male, I guess because I always have show helmet on
Kalari
01-26-2010, 04:55 PM
LOL im vain on my dwarf women I keep their helmets off gave them long flowing locks (well changed my barbarian to a Mohawk but its still stylish) I think I can look cute will kicking the arse of something and dwarf women are cute ^_^ Both mine are of the fighting kind I have enough healing types as it is.
techknowannie
01-26-2010, 05:25 PM
I was the one that actually got my husband interested in the game. He's more of a Left 4 Dead type, but after I started playing, he installed the game and started playing because it was the only way he'd be able to play a video game that wasn't Farm Town with me. LOL.
yeah my hubbi is more of a fps gamer to, and I can't seem to get him interested in this game, or any fantasy mmo so I have to divide my gaming time between ddo and left 4 dead :mad: not that left for dead is a bad game its just after the first couple hundred hours of playing through the same stuff it is not so much fun anymore, especially when I really would rather be playing ddo:(
but fortunately we found borderlands and I have to admit when I am playing that I don't miss ddo as much:D
I am hoping earthrise will be as good as I think it will be, but I just keep getting disappointed with the si/fi mmo's
but back on topic, I did have one incident with some guy trying to hit on my female
elven fighter (my mule) might have been the same guy that was chatting up the op's character, because if memory serves he did start off by saying hey cutie LOL
techknowannie
01-26-2010, 06:00 PM
LOL im vain on my dwarf women I keep their helmets off gave them long flowing locks (well changed my barbarian to a Mohawk but its still stylish) I think I can look cute will kicking the arse of something and dwarf women are cute ^_^ Both mine are of the fighting kind I have enough healing types as it is.
well I kept my helm on my first dwarf because when I made her I thought I would never play her so I picked a baaaaad hair-do you know the poodle perm one and carrot top red to LOL(I was in a hurry) but I found I loved playing her so instead of deleting and re-rolling I just putt the cool monkey mask looking helm on her and played her anyway.
my guildies thought she looked cool so now all my dwarfs have the monkey mask helms when I find them:D
Lirial
01-26-2010, 06:05 PM
It's so cute to see how you guys get over female voices lol. He did do a great job describing her voice lol. Ya know we do the same thing :D m not the type to get all giddy and girly over a guys voice..with an exception of a few :eek: lol. There are a few voices that stand out for sure on Thelanis..and a few over on Khyber. I saw a post recently by someone name Spell..it seems as though he is THE voice...too bad I havent gotten to hear it lol.
I can think of one female voice on Thelanis that makes me want to bang my head on a wall :(..seriously! I'd rather hear nails scratching on a board.
Agreed, guys are so weird when it comes to girl gamers and hearing them speak in voice chat. They really believe they have the monopoly on gaming , i prefer to keep people guessing in game, when they say "hey dude" or "hey man" i say "hello" ,
not worth the bother to correct people imho.
as far as voices that get me giddy it would have to be aussie accents :o
not too many of those on my server that im aware of but in my previous mmo they were everywhere lol
Kalari
01-26-2010, 06:11 PM
well I kept my helm on my first dwarf because when I made her I thought I would never play her so I picked a baaaaad hair-do you know the poodle perm one and carrot top red to LOL(I was in a hurry) but I found I loved playing her so instead of deleting and re-rolling I just putt the cool monkey mask looking helm on her and played her anyway.
my guildies thought she looked cool so now all my dwarfs have the monkey mask helms when I find them:D
Hehe awesome :) I spent ddo points to spruce up my girlies hair and I love it.
KannyaAryien
01-26-2010, 06:12 PM
My name is Kannya, and I'm a woman. :)
And I've been hit on. Most of the time, I laugh and shrug it off, but there have been a few times that I've been creeped out. Please don't ask for my city of residence multiple times, if I didn't tell you the first time, I won't tell you the second time. :)
I've been gaming for years now, so it really doesn't bother me when some guys get their knickers in a twist as soon as a female voice rings out through their speakers (or headset). :)
Either way, we womenfolk (:D) on this game don't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. And that's just fine with me. :)
Oh, by the way, I played pnp DnD long before I knew this game even existed. :) Nerdy gamer girl? Aye...that's me. :) Proud of it.
Eradiator
01-26-2010, 06:16 PM
I think this thread should be locked. It's about genitalia.
I'm a male, I play male characters. Dressing as a female is transvestitism. I do not support it.
same here
jasonchrist
01-27-2010, 01:43 AM
I play a female dwarf cleric. Nothing keeps guys from hitting on you as a female dwarf. :D
Truth.
Blackbird
01-27-2010, 08:02 AM
I play a female dwarf cleric. Nothing keeps guys from hitting on you as a female dwarf. :D
I have 2 female dwarves (one is just sitting as rolled and hasn't been played yet). When I play Oliviah (my fighter) I have gotten a LOT of -- "wow, a female dwarf, I've never seen one of those". Mostly at lower levels to be sure but I thought it was strange.
gorloch
01-27-2010, 11:45 AM
We all know that there are no such things as female gamers. Those of us with high pitched voices have got to be 12 yr old boys who haven't quite hit puberty yet. :D
When I come across a female player I say, "so was it your boyfriend/husband or brother that got you into the game?" And I've had 1/100 people answer something other than those two choices.
Although my estranged husband bought the game, he convinced me to let him buy it cause it was Dungeons and Dragons. I had been playing pnp for years, moved and he found a way to get us back into it. Except I soon took over the account so he ended up having to get a computer for himself and his own gaming account. I normally one talk in groups when running with at least a couple of guildies. Since I have vent going in the background even then I don't find I have to say much in group. I have been told before don't take this the wrong way but you have a cute voice, or a pretty voice or such but really I haven't gotten a whole lot of special treatment just for being female.
Dose being a Warforged M or F matter????
If so....... why?????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
It matter whether or not you get an extra part you get in the box when you get made, duh. :D
PIXA
Kalari
01-27-2010, 11:51 AM
Here are some lines I use as come backs if a person does the a/s/l stuff in general to me on the internet.
Are you female?
when I get that question I normally give the following
1. Well at least since the operation..
2. Well till the operation to make me more manly
3. Yes for a good 72 years now sonny
4. No but they say I can pass for one real easily come see my shows in the Village
5. Yes do you mind a beer gut?
6. Yes but some of the voices in my head are male :)
Sex
1. Not now im on my off time
2. Yes but not with you
3. Doing it right now
4. I would but youd have to get checked after ive had a fun life
5. Let me go ask my mom and dad...
Location
1. You know that state yeah that one funny shape state well I live close to that state but not so close.
2. By lots of water
3. wherever my mind tells me im at
4. In your closet
Now some guys will laugh at that some may try to cuss you out and eeep ive had guys turned on by both the grandma thing and a stubble joke I made (no Im not hairy though lol) So these may or may not work there really are some creepy guys on the interweb lol.
Robi3.0
01-27-2010, 12:52 PM
So I was running a female elven lowbie over the weekend, and I get this:
RandomPerson: hey cutie
Me: hey
(I'm wondering if this is a friend messing with me.)
RandomPerson: so m or f?
(I'm still wondering who the heck this is.)
Me: both actually
RandomPerson: ?
Me: married and female
RandomPerson: married huh?
Me: yep, happily
/squelch
Any of you ladies (the real kind, not the cute elf kind with the deep voices) get this?
First off I am a male, but play all female characters for the T&A factor I guess I am shallow like that.
So anyway several years ago I was on my main that the time waiting for some some guildies to finish a quest so we could group. When not questing I like to pass the time dancing naked in one the fountain in the market. Needless to say I was doing just that this particular day when I get a similar tell from a stranger. Now I don't remember what was said exactly but the conversation end with me inviting said person into my party, then me in my best Joe the Plumper voice asking "What you doing tonight sugar?"
I have never seen someone drop so fast. it was major lol.
and P.S. Holy hell Caine is a chick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mews to me. I always thought she was a prepubescent boy. Oh well you learn something new everyday.
MrWizard
01-27-2010, 01:10 PM
age: 4 years
sex: male
location: amrath
oh...thought this was a a/s/l thread
for the rather large number of people who are somehow offended by this post, and thus over did the neg reps for it....
4 years is how old my fighter is...started him back in 2006....it is a he...and at the time he was in the amrath inn.
I understand you may have been confused about the 4 years as an insult or something unsavory, but it was just humor and about my toon...nothing more.
Kalari
01-27-2010, 01:20 PM
for the rather large number of people who are somehow offended by this post, and thus over did the neg reps for it....
4 years is how old my fighter is...started him back in 2006....it is a he...and at the time he was in the amrath inn.
I understand you may have been confused about the 4 years as an insult or something unsavory, but it was just humor and about my toon...nothing more.
Meh I got your joke had to wait till I could pos rep ya again from your other shroud thread but there ya go.
Talon_Moonshadow
01-27-2010, 01:37 PM
For the record: any girl who likes to pretend she's an Elf and enjoys playing DDO is my dream girl. :D
Happily married btw....at least my wife admires Elves.
gorloch
01-27-2010, 02:14 PM
Hehe awesome :) I spent ddo points to spruce up my girlies hair and I love it.
I did to one as well. Her hair is now purple. :D
PIXA
Kalari
01-27-2010, 02:18 PM
For the record: any girl who likes to pretend she's an Elf and enjoys playing DDO is my dream girl. :D
Happily married btw....at least my wife admires Elves.
lol I was about to say I love to play elves Homicidal elves but elves non the less :p lol
And yep Pixa I have a purple haired bard that I love as well :)
MrWizard
01-27-2010, 05:54 PM
I asked a guy who played in my pugs a lot why he made female characters.....
He responded along these lines....
"I spend 4 to 10 hours a day on this game. If you think I want to spend all that time looking at the back end of a male fighter, you gotta be crazy"
actually made sense
Robi3.0
01-27-2010, 05:56 PM
I asked a guy who played in my pugs a lot why he made female characters.....
He responded along these lines....
"I spend 4 to 10 hours a day on this game. If you think I want to spend all that time looking at the back end of a male fighter, you gotta be crazy"
actually made sense
Do you play on Thelanis? I say that all the time.
Mockduck
01-27-2010, 06:25 PM
This topic always makes me dumbfounded. If I'm a girl, I am allowed to play Half Life 2. If I am a guy, I can play Tomb Raider. If I play Tekken, I can fight as a guy or a girl. If I'm in an MMO, there's some weird thing where it's an issue for some folks. Why? My DDO characters ARE NOT ME. They are video game characters created by me.
The logic of "you must play your 'real' sex in an MMO" makes about as much sense as being blasted for writing a novel about a guy if you are a girl. Ridiculous.
gorloch
01-27-2010, 09:55 PM
Do you play on Thelanis? I say that all the time.
I have actually heard that same reason from more than one male. I feel that I really don't want to try and figure out the male species so I sure as hell am not going top start in a video game.
PIXA
issiana
01-28-2010, 12:05 AM
for the rather large number of people who are somehow offended by this post, and thus over did the neg reps for it....
4 years is how old my fighter is...started him back in 2006....it is a he...and at the time he was in the amrath inn.
I understand you may have been confused about the 4 years as an insult or something unsavory, but it was just humor and about my toon...nothing more.
some ppl are just fools, i thought it was plain out funny and very well done :)
however op.. yes i get the odd tell every so often which makes me chuckle. The last one i got i copied and pasted the conversation to guild chat as i "played along". we all had a very good laugh at it ;)
DoctorWhofan
01-28-2010, 12:13 AM
I have actually heard that same reason from more than one male. I feel that I really don't want to try and figure out the male species so I sure as hell am not going top start in a video game.
PIXA
Quite frankly, I don't blamethem. I have male characters. Have you seen how they run? It looks like they either filled their codpiece with waste product, like a girl, or like a drunken Dwarf. Or all three.
I blame men for this. THey just want more female characters in thegame, no matter who was "behind" the character.
:D:p;)
Lyetisha
01-28-2010, 02:28 AM
The comment above made me remember a wow thread where the bigoted idiot homophobes were actually trying to require that RL sex be part of your account info, and then lock out the opposite gender in the character creation screen, or some such rot. =)
If it bothers you that much, you're playing the wrong game. Go play Second Life instead =)
Kirachan
01-28-2010, 09:29 AM
Actually, I red a while back that some Asian MMORPG requires people to verify their sex as female, before they can create female characters. I kinda doubt that females get banned from creating male chars.
Hellmoob
01-28-2010, 09:35 AM
Actually, I red a while back that some Asian MMORPG requires people to verify their sex as female, before they can create female characters. I kinda doubt that females get banned from creating male chars.
Verify your gender? Like how?
"Before you can proceed to chracter creation, please place your nether regions in the 'Gender Checker' provided with your Limited Edition boxset."
Kirachan
01-28-2010, 09:41 AM
No, I think the options where telephone them and verify by voice, or send in a copy of your ID.
Shamurai
01-28-2010, 09:47 AM
/signed my Drow Chick's run is much hotter then my male toons graphic
ddaedelus
01-28-2010, 10:03 AM
(I always pick male melee, female caster, don't know why, just feels right)
Hm. Same here.
I've never understood the hangup some people have over RL gender vs. toon gender in video games. Maybe it's because I find the idea that some kind of romantic/sexual relationship blossoming in an MMO so totally absurd. Not that it doesn't happen, but I find it utterly bizarre. It could also be that I GMed a PnP game so regularly had to play female as well as male characters.
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