Fixing my Paladin

[Sirea]

So I've got this Human 16Paladin/2Fighter right now. Unfortunately her Charisma is gimped and I couldn't take Divine Might at all :( As well as other little things that bother me such as no ranks in UMD. So I'm hoping with the help of the upcoming Lesser Reincarnation I can "fix" her and bring her more in line with what I'd like out of her.


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Alishia Obsidian
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Female
(1 Fighter \ 18 Paladin \ 1 Rogue)
Hit Points: 318
Spell Points: 245
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 19
Will: 14

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 24
Dexterity 15 17
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 12 14
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 14 18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 13.5
Bluff 2 4
Concentration 3 4
Diplomacy 2 4
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 6 8
Heal 1 2
Hide 2 3
Intimidate 6 27
Jump 7 11
Listen -1 0
Move Silently 2 3
Open Lock 6 7
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 2
Search 1 2
Spot 3 4
Swim 3 7
Tumble 6 7
Use Magic Device 6 27

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II




The Rogue level is to unlock full ranks in UMD, although I realize it comes at the price of -1 to BAB, correct? Will that hurt me that much in the long run?

She's built primarily as a TWF KotC, but I like having the Intimidate ranks and the ability to slap on a Tower shield and tank if needed.

[Josh]

I started my TR pally with a 15 base Chr. That way when I get a +3 tome I'll qualify for DM3. DM2 will be good till then. I went with 2 levels of rogue for all the skills and evasion.

I think that alot of people that are making TWF KOTC Pallys are splashing either two levels of monk, rogue, or fighter. Personally I like rogue, but all three have their merits. I would advise you to not splash 18/1x/1x, but go 18/2x on something be it fighter, monk, or rogue. I'm a big fan of evasion on your tank so I favor either monk or rogue, with rogue being my personal favorite. That's what I did with Callisto, and so far it's pretty fun.

Besides, if you don't like your splash just LR it away to one that you do like.

If you want to use a Tower Shield just get the madstone shield from Reaver. It grants automatic proficency with tower shields. It's pretty much as good as levik's anyways, and I doubt you'll be wearing the bracers on this toon anyways. Don't splash a fighter level just for that.

[elraido]

A level of fighter isn't worth it. I went two levels of fighter and don't think it was worth it. Like said, if you want to splash, the ones to do it are rogue and monk depending on what you want.
Another thing to look at is divine might IV instead of III. Granted you would need to play around with your stats a little bit, but it might be worth the extra 2 points of damage (same as a+4 mod to str).

[Sirea]

The extra feat from Fighter is appealing to me, it lets me take all the feats I want to. I only really wanted one level of rogue for full UMD ranks, Evasion isn't really what I'm looking for with this build, she'll have a decent Reflex save with a +6 item and (hopefully) +5 resist on Dragontouched.

She's already two levels of fighter, which I'm kinda "meh" on, which is why I'm looking to change her up some. I'm trying her out on Lamannia with a 2 Rogue splash right now, but I don't think her DEX will be high enough to give her a great AC in robes. I also think her Wisdom will be two low to get the full benefit from a monk's Wisdom bonus to AC.

[Josh]

Well, if you're not worried about evasion then go with it. I debated going 18 pal / 1 rog / 1 mnk, but I didn't want to loose evasion and I was concerned that I was trying to do to many things at the same time on the same toon.

Whatever way you go I'm sure it will be fun.

[Ralmeth]

Actually, Paladin 18 / Rogue 1 / Fighter 1 is a very nice combination and is what I use on my Defender of Siberys. Due to RL issues I haven't had time to play much, but I've gone to 18th level so far and found I really like the build. Fighter 1 actually grants you two feats, one fighter feat and tower shield for free which you'll want if you're going to want if you want to tank and go S&B for a bit, very useful on a DoS. Rogue 1 unlocks UMD which makes it worth it, and gives lots of extra skill points.

[elraido]

Actually, Paladin 18 / Rogue 1 / Fighter 1 is a very nice combination and is what I use on my Defender of Siberys. Due to RL issues I haven't had time to play much, but I've gone to 18th level so far and found I really like the build. Fighter 1 actually grants you two feats, one fighter feat and tower shield for free which you'll want if you're going to want if you want to tank and go S&B for a bit, very useful on a DoS. Rogue 1 unlocks UMD which makes it worth it, and gives lots of extra skill points.

It also depends if you think the two feats are worth trading evasion for or the paladins cap stone. But the "free" tower shield for DoS is nice.

[Ralmeth]

It also depends if you think the two feats are worth trading evasion for or the paladins cap stone. But the "free" tower shield for DoS is nice.

Agreed. It all depends on what you want. On my DoS I knew I wanted UMD and intimidate as class skills, which precluded going pure and taking 1-2 levels of Rogue for the UMD portion. Then it was a question of 2 Rogue or 1 Fighter / 1 Rogue. The extra feats were really nice on the 1 Fighter splash. Also, it's more difficult to fill out the max dex bonus on the 2 Rogue splash. At time, if I could have planned on a 34 point build and/or +2 tomes in every stat I might have thought about it. Truth be told, if they had a cool looking suit of DT leather I would have more seriously gone 2 Rogue...It's not just how you play, you have to look good too, being a Paladin;)