XP pots and advice on true Rezz'ing

[skaltervox12]

I just True rezz'ed my cleric on Sarlona a couple of weeks ago into a FvS soul heal bot and am here to offer some
friendly advice to any poor slob who may do the same.

First off the state of pugs is abysmal. I mean really, really bad. This is not a flame thread against new players, I don't know who's new, drunk, greifing ect ect, I just know they are bad for the most part.

You will find yourself brute force healing CC'ing incompetent mobs to a completion because, dammit you need that completion too and you will drag their dead carcasses though to do it.

You will find yourself using a tremendous amount of resources to accomplish this selfless act so make sure to stock up any any favor item, pots you can because you will need them.

And finally do NOT buy anything from the Turbine store that will be used in pugs especially XP pots. If you're running with guildies, Yes use them, your chance for completions is fairly assured at least in my guild.

But those suckers are pricey, are on a login timer and pug completions are seldom assured as sometimes you only learn the vastness of their inability until its too late.

Many pugs have benefited from my "GRR, i put an hour into this on my timer, so I'll use mana pots" Attitude, but no more.

Trust me, No TP's for pugs. I made my mistakes, don't follow them.

[spyderwolf]

jsut wait til ya hit 12 on mols. then itll be smooth sailing for ya bro.

[Quikster]

Stop pugging. For real :D

[Goldeneye]

I often find it easy to short-man quests.
Instead of making a PUG group, it is much easier to run with only 1 or 2 experienced players.

Especially now that a 20% 3hr exp pot is about $5.00, don't waste your money on pugs.

[skaltervox12]

jsut wait til ya hit 12 on mols. then itll be smooth sailing for ya bro.

God I hope so, just wanna bust through that cloud layer and see sunny skies. I don't mind grinding, I hate grinding
and failing. And to you sir, your help to do just that....invaluable. TY

[spyderwolf]

God I hope so, just wanna bust through that cloud layer and see sunny skies. I don't mind grinding, I hate grinding
and failing. And to you sir, your help to do just that....invaluable. TY

thats what guildies are for. to impose upon at times :D

[Varr]

For fun, I'll argue the other side of this equation. For a geared and experianced tr'ed toon......forced to run level appropriate content due to xp requirements anyway......how can a pug go poorly?

It is your level x toon in a level x run.......even just carrying 5 soulstones arround is eazy to complete 95% of the quests solo, and most pugs offer more help than 0 prodution from the other 5 players.

I look at it as soloing a quest, which most tr'ed players can do pretty easily with a pack of breathing lever pullers. Any additional prodution is gravy.

If your trying to be teamy and the pug is below your acceptible standard, just get to the front line and take over the quest. Don't discourage the other players and grumble.....just always look at the five others as pikers like I do and you will get more pleasant surizes than disappintments.

[MrLarone]

Varr, +1 rep

signed

breathing lever puller

(well more experienced but still new enough to appreciate good community spirit at all lvls of noob)

[Quikster]

For fun, I'll argue the other side of this equation. For a geared and experianced tr'ed toon......forced to run level appropriate content due to xp requirements anyway......how can a pug go poorly?

It is your level x toon in a level x run.......even just carrying 5 soulstones arround is eazy to complete 95% of the quests solo, and most pugs offer more help than 0 prodution from the other 5 players.

I look at it as soloing a quest, which most tr'ed players can do pretty easily with a pack of breathing lever pullers. Any additional prodution is gravy.

If your trying to be teamy and the pug is below your acceptible standard, just get to the front line and take over the quest. Don't discourage the other players and grumble.....just always look at the five others as pikers like I do and you will get more pleasant surizes than disappintments.



I would say that depends on his build, but yeah thats basically what I say with one exception. Leave the 5 pikers at home :)

[Varr]

I would say that depends on his build, but yeah thats basically what I say with one exception. Leave the 5 pikers at home :)

But that's just it.....we need those pikers my friend. We need to teach them proper zerging. We need to teach the self sufficency. We need them to fill the raid lfms with a quickness.

I'll tell you point blank my learn on the fly pug with Varr for fast xp/loot at your own risk has added a couple dozen mean zergging machines to the Cannith server and only cost me a couple 10% party death penalties along the way. It is much more fun to Zerg in group than alone for me at least.

[spyderwolf]

For fun, I'll argue the other side of this equation. For a geared and experianced tr'ed toon......forced to run level appropriate content due to xp requirements anyway......how can a pug go poorly?

It is your level x toon in a level x run.......even just carrying 5 soulstones arround is eazy to complete 95% of the quests solo, and most pugs offer more help than 0 prodution from the other 5 players.

I look at it as soloing a quest, which most tr'ed players can do pretty easily with a pack of breathing lever pullers. Any additional prodution is gravy.

If your trying to be teamy and the pug is below your acceptible standard, just get to the front line and take over the quest. Don't discourage the other players and grumble.....just always look at the five others as pikers like I do and you will get more pleasant surizes than disappintments.

thats true for most builds but not for a min str offensive casting fvs until they get blade barrier at 12. your not gonan solo aalot of stuff very quickly until you have the firepower to do so. any melee, or caster above level 7/8 (wiz/sorc) can do it jsut fine. but not a completely min maxxed healer .

[Kalari]

Im going to be less diplomatic (yeah big shocker eh?)

I dont pay to play a game to teach, if im in the mood to teach lowbies or get put in that situation due to my lfm then fine.

But I do not sign onto ddo thinking "oh man I cant wait to teach a bunch of players how to play the game.." If some people out there do this fine, but I get a pay check for working not playing a game, and unless I start getting said item for teaching noobs not to be so unreliable in dungeons (notice I said noobs because they come in all varieties from fresh off the docks to been here for years without a clue) I dont want no parts of it.

Call me elitist, a selfish vet what not yes I know there are players who need guidance and thats fine many times we do try to help every once in awhile. But people are forgetting that ddo is a game, not work not something we should have to remotely approach as such. So when I log on im looking to have fun, and many times its not fun to have to always be mentor and guide.

[techwench]

Im going to be less diplomatic (yeah big shocker eh?)

I dont pay to play a game to teach, if im in the mood to teach lowbies or get put in that situation due to my lfm then fine.

But I do not sign onto ddo thinking "oh man I cant wait to teach a bunch of players how to play the game.." If some people out there do this fine, but I get a pay check for working not playing a game, and unless I start getting said item for teaching noobs not to be so unreliable in dungeons (notice I said noobs because they come in all varieties from fresh off the docks to been here for years without a clue) I dont want no parts of it.

Call me elitist, a selfish vet what not yes I know there are players who need guidance and thats fine many times we do try to help every once in awhile. But people are forgetting that ddo is a game, not work not something we should have to remotely approach as such. So when I log on im looking to have fun, and many times its not fun to have to always be mentor and guide.

Aaaaw...but I was so willing to pay you to teach me how to play, Kalari! Share plz!!!!111eleventyone

[Varr]

thats true for most builds but not for a min str offensive casting fvs until they get blade barrier at 12. your not gonan solo aalot of stuff very quickly until you have the firepower to do so. any melee, or caster above level 7/8 (wiz/sorc) can do it jsut fine. but not a completely min maxxed healer .

I disagree. Let's see.....level 3 feat great axe to switch out at say level 9 or so. At level 4......min str fs...in +3 mith full plate with ac rit, carniflex, full set of house p buffs if desired. Hero pots and haste at 4.....bark and shield pots at 5. Now add in all the tween gear for fort and sp and summons earth ele scrolls....later girds and pop x trinkets mixed with greater command.....I don't see a min str healing fs having any issue stepping up and taking over runs if so desired.

[Kalari]

Aaaaw...but I was so willing to pay you to teach me how to play, Kalari! Share plz!!!!111eleventyone

lol that could be a bad thing my first rule is never play sober :p

[Varr]

Im going to be less diplomatic (yeah big shocker eh?)

I dont pay to play a game to teach, if im in the mood to teach lowbies or get put in that situation due to my lfm then fine.

But I do not sign onto ddo thinking "oh man I cant wait to teach a bunch of players how to play the game.." If some people out there do this fine, but I get a pay check for working not playing a game, and unless I start getting said item for teaching noobs not to be so unreliable in dungeons (notice I said noobs because they come in all varieties from fresh off the docks to been here for years without a clue) I dont want no parts of it.

Call me elitist, a selfish vet what not yes I know there are players who need guidance and thats fine many times we do try to help every once in awhile. But people are forgetting that ddo is a game, not work not something we should have to remotely approach as such. So when I log on im looking to have fun, and many times its not fun to have to always be mentor and guide.


Try posting an lfm like this

Stormcleave, hard: Varrs Zerg, know the way, heal thy self, all welcome.

Anyone that joins can learn thru observation or leave if you prefer. You don't have to say one single word the whole quest....they get xp, loot, learn some tricks....you get adoration and make a few freinds along the way. You don't have to be helpful at all if you like, but still give players a chance to run successful quests and have a positive experiance....if they can make it to the quest and stay in your wake.

[Draccus]

There is definitely a strategy involved with using XP pots, especially if PUGs are involved.

If you haven't drunk the pot yet and you're in a questionable PUG, you should obviously not drink it until right before quest completion. Sure, you miss some bonus XP from the optionals but unless you're running Wiz King, it's safer to wait and ensure you're going to complete before you drink it.

Additionally, if you're thinking you're going to stay with the group and it's still questionable, you may want to hold off on drinking it until you're teamed up with a faster group. PUG bashing is all the rage on the boards these days and some of it is warranted while some isn't. But the truth is that PUGs, even good ones, are generally slower so it may not be the most efficient use of a pot.

As I TR'd, I primarily used XP pots in two circumstances:

1. High XP quests with friends and guildies. Stepping into Crucible with a full group committed to run n/n/n/h/e is a great time for a pot :) Stepping into Coal Chamber with all your PUG group member's stones in your pack from the run out is probably not a good time for a pot.

2. Solo explorer areas, first entry. The first hour you spend in an explorer area has some amazing XP. The explorers, rares, and slayers you get on your first lap can certainly benefit from a pot. A lap around Ataraxia's, Gianthold, and the Vale is probably worth an extra 4k just from the pot. The benefit here, of course, is that if you get distracted by RL, you can simply log out where you are and your pot timer stops ticking.

[Hadrian]

thats what guildies are for. to impose upon at times :D

And sometimes they're there to throw random insults at, then run off before they can respond.

You halfling strength monk with a sorcerer splash!

[RhapsodieInBlue]

Haha, every time I've run with you Caffeine guys and gals it's cracked me the hell up.

I love running with y'all. :D

[Mudcnd]

Heh sucks up too 12 eh , and here you just thought it was me lol!
Lemme know if you wana borrow that sup pot 6 LS(ml-12) , you have to be close to BB now.

[Halock]

I cant imagine the nightmare or leveling as a pure healer....i'm on my second trip, and what i learned mostly from my first was, solo.....alot, its 10x faster and the frustration saved cannot be measured.

[Teilean]

I just TR'ed my Cleric to a OC FvS/Monk build(2 Monk), I have 2 friends who I almost always play with that TR'ed also and its a balanced 3 man so we can do almost any quest for xp with ease but I do find it funny to fill the other 3 slots with randoms. It really makes for some funny times and you get responses like....

Dude you are a beast

How do you kill stuff so fast?

Whats wrong with your name?

*** are you?

But I will say sense the game became f2p, I have found my patience very lacking when having new ppl in a grp that don't want to follow/listen to me or the grp leader.

Sence I know I can solo the quest this PuGs on, If the Cleric(I am a WF) decides to say "Oh man not a vending machine" Or "Not another robot" I can just ignore his hp and drop his stone in some lava.


Oh the Fun you can make.