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kicksaw
11-30-2009, 09:18 PM
Hi, i have once again few questions, this time about monk. Did Extend Spell work with 'combo hits' buffs of monk? They stay for a 1 minute only, so if i want to get enough ki to hold them for longer i must use fire stance instead of air stance. Well i was thinking about drow monk with splash into:
1) 1lv wizzy - for an "Mage Armor" (12 min of duration, +4 AC)
2) 1lv cleric - "Remove Fear" for 10 minutes, and allow using healing wands
3) 1-2 ranger - for wands /eventually TWF free if 2 lvls/
4) 1 pally - aura for AC and saves + wands (? they can use same as cleric?)

Or maybe i should stay as an pure monk?

Stats (base):

14 str
16 dex
14 con
10 int
14 wis
10 cha

Pizzasoup
11-30-2009, 09:24 PM
Hi, i have once again few questions, this time about monk. Did Extend Spell work with 'combo hits' buffs of monk? They stay for a 1 minute only, so if i want to get enough ki to hold them for longer i must use fire stance instead of air stance. Well i was thinking about drow monk with splash into:
1) 1lv wizzy - for an "Mage Armor" (12 min of duration, +4 AC)
2) 1lv cleric - "Remove Fear" for 10 minutes, and allow using healing wands
3) 1-2 ranger - for wands /eventually TWF free if 2 lvls/
4) 1 pally - aura for AC and saves + wands (? they can use same as cleric?)

Or maybe i should stay as an pure monk?

Stats (base):

14 str
16 dex
14 con
10 int
14 wis
10 cha

Well, from what I've read, monks are going to be investing in the whole TWF anyhow, so if you're taking two ranks of Ranger mainly for TWF, I'd reconsider. As for Paladin, the first level Bulwark of Good grants you +1 AC and requires Pal 3 and the Divine Grace save-boosting feat depends on your CHA bonus and requires Pal 2.

Skull_49
11-30-2009, 09:35 PM
for the reasons uve posted on here just stay pure it will be better in long run the dr / dps from fists will make up for those things the mage armour doesnt stack with ac bracers +4 or better your save agianst fear should be good exept on a 1 free twf feat/wands arnt worth loosing capstone 10dr and 3d6 damage per fist 1 lv pali doesnt give u those 2 does but still its not worth it

kicksaw
12-01-2009, 03:45 AM
Thank you for answers, now im sure what to do ^_^

Hjarki
12-01-2009, 05:27 AM
for the reasons uve posted on here just stay pure it will be better in long run the dr / dps from fists will make up for those things the mage armour doesnt stack with ac bracers +4 or better your save agianst fear should be good exept on a 1 free twf feat/wands arnt worth loosing capstone 10dr and 3d6 damage per fist 1 lv pali doesnt give u those 2 does but still its not worth it

This is certainly the conventional wisdom, but I'm not entirely convinced.

From 18 Monk to 20 Monk, you gain +1 AC, +1 hit, +2 damage. You also gain 10/epic DR, the capstone boost to Ki, and Shadow Walk.

It seems like losing all those benefits and gaining access to scrolls of Stoneskin, Shield, Divine Power and Divine Favor would be well worth the tradeoff.

lanthan
12-01-2009, 10:17 AM
A lvl 20 monk has a base fist dmg of 2d10 not 3d6. 3d6 does an avg of 10.5, 2d10 does and avg of 11.

Redicular
12-01-2009, 11:40 AM
This is certainly the conventional wisdom, but I'm not entirely convinced.

From 18 Monk to 20 Monk, you gain +1 AC, +1 hit, +2 damage. You also gain 10/epic DR, the capstone boost to Ki, and Shadow Walk.

It seems like losing all those benefits and gaining access to scrolls of Stoneskin, Shield, Divine Power and Divine Favor would be well worth the tradeoff.

stoneskin is available in clicky(shroud items) if you're doing a lot of soloing, and if not just carry the re-agent and have someone cast on you

shield is clicky

DP would actually have no effect on a pure monk geared properly beyond temporary hitpoints(aid/greater heroism clicky) you already get full BAB if using monk weapons and the str boost is enhancement i.e. doesn't stack with the +6 str item you should be wearing. oh, and its also available as a clicky.

divine favor is a clicky

so you're dropping all the pure benefits(btw, you left off lower DC's for special attacks) to spend more money(since scrolls are a consumable, eventually they will trump the price of the clickies) for effects you could get anyway.