is there any way to give unarmed same reach as weapons?

[AnarchyJesus]

i really like monk but the only thing that turn me off is the unarmed attack range. is there anyway get have a longer reach?

[Lithic]

are you sure it doesnt?

I ask because a friend of mine tested rapier vs dagger, and those were exaclty the same reach.

[Ereshkigal]

i really like monk but the only thing that turn me off is the unarmed attack range. is there anyway get have a longer reach?


I wonder if the "size increase" from true reincarnation will give you a longer reach :)

[AnarchyJesus]

are you sure it doesnt?

I ask because a friend of mine tested rapier vs dagger, and those were exaclty the same reach.

yes all one handed weapon have same reach, but not fist.

[AnarchyJesus]

I wonder if the "size increase" from true reincarnation will give you a longer reach :)

im not sure what that means, but warforg dont have longer reach than halfing or any thing else for that matter, so i dont think it would

[FluffyCalico]

i really like monk but the only thing that turn me off is the unarmed attack range. is there anyway get have a longer reach?

which do you think should reach further, your finger or a sword?

[Arnya]

Ok, so you want to punch things far enough away from you to stab them with a sword?

Why not have the reach of a greataxe? or a magic missile?

Sigh.

**** you Fluffy, stop making faster, funnier posts than me!!

[AnarchyJesus]

which do you think should reach further, your finger or a sword?

they already made dagger longer reach than greatsword, so may as well give finger a longer reach. and i was hoping there r item that give them some kind no touch knockout ki bs for longer reach

[Arnya]

they already made dagger longer reach than greatsword

Huh?

How did you come to that conclusion?


and i was hoping there r item that give them some kind no touch knockout ki bs for longer reach

Wha?

Is that English?

[Twerpp]

LOL yeah you monks gotta be all up in Araetrikos' butt.

[TreknaQudane]

LOL yeah you monks gotta be all up in Araetrikos' butt.

I'm sure there is some sort of Fist joke here, but I really don't think it's worth the infraction points.

[AnarchyJesus]

Huh?

How did you come to that conclusion?



Wha?

Is that English?

jez kid u asked 6 lame unhelpful questions in 2 post. if u dont know about im talking about just pis off. and yes dagger longer reach than greatsword go do some testing yourself so you dont have to be "huh? wha?" all the time.

[MasterBurik]

jez kid u asked 6 lame unhelpful question in 2 post. if u dont know about im talking about just pis off. and yes dagger longer reach than greatsword go do some testing yourself so you dont have to be "huh? wha?" all the time.

*Has a heart attack from the illiterate rambling*

Make it stop!!!

But seriously, I wouldnt be suprised if the vast majority of weapons had the exact same reach. Turbine doesnt want to code it in, because that would give us a loophole into getting more weapons (Spears and the such...hehe).
I'm just to lazy at the moment to test them all out to see how many have the exact range.

And just so were clear:
Flames = Not cool
Uber spell failure = Not cool
So, Flaming + Uber spell failure = Epic Not Cool, right?

[Ereshkigal]

im not sure what that means, but warforg dont have longer reach than halfing or any thing else for that matter, so i dont think it would

I was joking, I didn't think there would really be an increase in reach... but I was referring to the mention Turbine made that True Reincarnated characters will come back larger than normal characters. Does this mean a full size category larger? I doubt it. For all I know they may have been kidding as well about the size increase at all.

[MasterBurik]

I was joking, I didn't think there would really be an increase in reach... but I was referring to the mention Turbine made that True Reincarnated characters will come back larger than normal characters. Does this mean a full size category larger? I doubt it. For all I know they may have been kidding as well about the size increase at all.

Didnt anyone tell you size doesnt matter?

*snickers*

Well in DDO, it hasnt had too much of an impact...I suppose they were probably kidding, but if they aren't, it's probably gonna be the reverse of the halfling's size thing (totally slipped my mind on what it was)

[Letrii]

True Reincarnation makes you larger in all the right places.

[testing1234]

i have noticed that when i move sideways with dual weapons i reach longer. (tested picks and rapiers)
stand still miss move left right and you hit.

have not been able to tell if this works for 2handed also or with fists.

[Aerglion]

jez kid u asked 6 lame unhelpful questions in 2 post. if u dont know about im talking about just pis off. and yes dagger longer reach than greatsword go do some testing yourself so you dont have to be "huh? wha?" all the time.

Wow... Had I never read this post, I wouldn't have known it was possible to fit that many spelling / grammar / sentence building mistakes in that short a post.

Thank you for making me that much wiser!

[Hendrik]

*Has a heart attack from the illiterate rambling*

Make it stop!!!

But seriously, I wouldnt be suprised if the vast majority of weapons had the exact same reach. Turbine doesnt want to code it in, because that would give us a loophole into getting more weapons (Spears and the such...hehe).
I'm just to lazy at the moment to test them all out to see how many have the exact range.

And just so were clear:
Flames = Not cool
Uber spell failure = Not cool
So, Flaming + Uber spell failure = Epic Not Cool, right?

Hehe.

[Wyrmnax]

which do you think should reach further, your finger or a sword?

Finger.

Finger of Death always reached further.

[manfredshw]

In DDO, there is something called "reach".
Someone didn't know it, desen't mean it does not exist.

And even same weapon, the attack animation1-4, their reach range and　arc are different.
Monk fist has the same reach range when standstill as other twf. But it has a narrow arc and radius when you move.

Go pvp, and have a try,
A: attack a player standstill unarmed and flurry, and backward move when out of range(no attack roll), equip two weapons, you can't hit either.
B: equip two weapons standstill, and backward move when out of range(no attack roll), then unarmed, you can't hit either.
C: Control your monk move upward and backward, even left and right. Or just chase another player.
You will see, it will be a miracle if you can hit that running player. But if you equip an axe or quarterstaff, you will find more earsier to hit him/her.

[AnarchyJesus]

in Ddo, There Is Something Called "reach".
Someone Didn't Know It, Desen't Mean It Does Not Exist.

And Even Same Weapon, The Attack Animation1-4, Their Reach Range And　arc Are Different.
Monk Fist Has The Same Reach Range When Standstill As Other Twf. But It Has A Narrow Arc And Radius When You Move.

Go Pvp, And Have A Try,
A: Attack A Player Standstill Unarmed And Flurry, And Backward Move When Out Of Range(no Attack Roll), Equip Two Weapons, You Can't Hit Either.
B: Equip Two Weapons Standstill, And Backward Move When Out Of Range(no Attack Roll), Then Unarmed, You Can't Hit Either.
C: Control Your Monk Move Upward And Backward, Even Left And Right. Or Just Chase Another Player.
You Will See, It Will Be A Miracle If You Can Hit That Running Player. But If You Equip An Axe Or Quarterstaff, You Will Find More Earsier To Hit Him/her.

有用！

[cdbd3rd]

which do you think should reach further, your finger or a sword?

That's a loaded question if ever I saw one. :D




:rolleyes:

[malthusian01]

Finger.

Finger of Death always reached further.

Well played.

[AnarchyJesus]

Wow... Had I never read this post, I wouldn't have known it was possible to fit that many spelling / grammar / sentence building mistakes in that short a post.

Thank you for making me that much wiser!

its about time someone make fun of my english. your welcome. and btw you already covered sentence building when u said grammar ;)

[Arvess]

The answer to your question is: No. There is no way to increase your reach when fighting unarmed.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

its about time someone make fun of my english. your welcome. and btw you already covered sentence building when u said grammar ;)

Not really. Sentance structure would be covered under grammer, but building could be more widely understood to include things such as putting a sentance together for impact and meaning. Two gramatically correct sentances on the same subject can have different value when it comes to conveying meaning effectively.

[lostx]

I would be happy if the made quivering palm same reach as unarmed. It sucks beating on a monster and not even getting a dice roll to qp him unless your are basically hugging them.

[Arvess]

do you see your attack animation? You ARE hugging them! What i love about monks is that you're surrounded by gnolls and you QP and the guy to the side of you goes down. KUNG FU!

[AnarchyJesus]

Not really. Sentance structure would be covered under grammer, but building could be more widely understood to include things such as putting a sentance together for impact and meaning. Two gramatically correct sentances on the same subject can have different value when it comes to conveying meaning effectively.

i was looking for you, you run off on my other thread after accuse with me with some weird stuff. but anyway thx for the english lesson.

[Arnya]

jez kid u asked 6 lame unhelpful questions in 2 post. if u dont know about im talking about just pis off. and yes dagger longer reach than greatsword go do some testing yourself so you dont have to be "huh? wha?" all the time.

Abusing people in another language isn't smart or cool, sorry champ...

Good to see you are gathering all the right reputation...

And if you think daggers have the same reach as greatswords, I wanna smoke some of your stuff.

[OliviaCrowley]

Abusing people in another language isn't smart or cool, sorry champ...

Good to see you are gathering all the right reputation...

And if you think daggers have the same reach as greatswords, I wanna smoke some of your stuff.

For what it's worth, I think he only abused people in english. :P

I believe '有用！' translates roughly in to saying the person was helpful.

But I could be wrong.

[Arnya]

For what it's worth, I think he only abused people in english. :P

I believe '有用！' translates roughly in to saying the person was helpful.

But I could be wrong.

I was actually meaning his txt style posts that's hard on people eyes and brains trying to decrypt.

But hey, I'm just a kid :)

[Azmode]

One note on the "chasing mobs down". Usually I use cleave, as it seems to definitely increase the range of unarmed attacks. Makes it a lot easier to get the **** last hit on a mob ; ).

Although I'm definitely probably going to get rid of cleave later on.

[AnarchyJesus]

Abusing people in another language isn't smart or cool, sorry champ...

Good to see you are gathering all the right reputation...

And if you think daggers have the same reach as greatswords, I wanna smoke some of your stuff.

again go do some test yourself before you make fun of other ppl, that was what got me ****ed off in the first place. sit back im gon school you for free this time because i dont run in to ppl more noob than me everyday.

when u one hand using a dagger and standing still the 3rd attack in the attack chain have longer reach than any greatsword attacks, other attack in the chain will have the same reach as greatsword attacks. when moving all weapon seem to have the same reach. and unarmed attack have much shorter reach when moving.


Ok, so you want to punch things far enough away from you to stab them with a sword?

Why not have the reach of a greataxe? or a magic missile?

Sigh.



and guess what, turn out punch have even longer reach than stabing with sword as long as your not moving. so yeah both time you were making fun of me because of your own ignorance﹐be proud of urself.

[AnarchyJesus]

In DDO, there is something called "reach".
Someone didn't know it, desen't mean it does not exist.

And even same weapon, the attack animation1-4, their reach range and　arc are different.
Monk fist has the same reach range when standstill as other twf. But it has a narrow arc and radius when you move.

Go pvp, and have a try,
A: attack a player standstill unarmed and flurry, and backward move when out of range(no attack roll), equip two weapons, you can't hit either.
B: equip two weapons standstill, and backward move when out of range(no attack roll), then unarmed, you can't hit either.
C: Control your monk move upward and backward, even left and right. Or just chase another player.
You will see, it will be a miracle if you can hit that running player. But if you equip an axe or quarterstaff, you will find more earsier to hit him/her.

i think u got it wrong on the standstill unarmed reach. i tested with unarmed vs twf kama/longsword and the first 3 attacks in the unarmed attack chain have longer reach than any attack in the twf attack chain.

when moving twf have a much longer reach than unarmed just like u said