NOT looking for a guild so please stop asking

[sjwalker1973]

PSA:

Guilds aren't the end all be all of this game. I've been in a few guilds to know that they end up being politically charged with officers wanting to throw their weight around and screw their members. Every time they needed help with things I was there. Yet when I needed help, they said screw you. I took a 3 month break for this reason and others. When I came back, the same thing was still going on. So for now, going guildless and will remain guildless. I've made many friends from fellow adventurers in the game. Those that know me, know what I am capable of. I'm always willing to help out any party who needs it. Just because you see a high level cleric without a guild doesn't mean I want to be in one. Please stop asking me to join your guild. Good luck, and have fun. Remember, it is a game after all.

Kirwin 20th LVL Cleric
Eloric 18th LVL Barbarian
Former:
The Crimson Hand (disbanded)
Twilight Alliance (semi disbanded)
The Free Companions

[Dreban]

sorry to hear you've had bad experiences with the guilds...I had the same issue before though I do have to say that not ALL guilds are like that...just elitist ones /shrug :P

[Jay203]

my faith in guilds got lost when shroud came out along with greensteels
been asked to join guilds many times, but I'm a freelancer now :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Beherit_Baphomar]

We have guilds on Argo if yer looking to join one OP.

In fact what I'll do is roll up a toon on Khyber and mail you, individually, all the guild names I can think of.

Hopefully no one on Khyber will do this before I get the chance to.

[FluffyCalico]

About the only way to not get several invite a day or if low level several per 5 min, is to create your own and make you the only memeber.

[oberon131313]

thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind.

[Raegoul]

PSA:

Guilds aren't the end all be all of this game. I've been in a few guilds to know that they end up being politically charged with officers wanting to throw their weight around and screw their members. Every time they needed help with things I was there. Yet when I needed help, they said screw you. I took a 3 month break for this reason and others. When I came back, the same thing was still going on. So for now, going guildless and will remain guildless. I've made many friends from fellow adventurers in the game. Those that know me, know what I am capable of. I'm always willing to help out any party who needs it. Just because you see a high level cleric without a guild doesn't mean I want to be in one. Please stop asking me to join your guild. Good luck, and have fun. Remember, it is a game after all.

Kirwin 20th LVL Cleric
Eloric 18th LVL Barbarian
Former:
The Crimson Hand (disbanded)
Twilight Alliance (semi disbanded)
The Free Companions
Oooohh, is that why you left FC? Very nice.

[sjwalker1973]

Oooohh, is that why you left FC? Very nice.

Actually, I left for 3 months, and came back on when the update came out. I joined FC only through the armwringing of Eightball. I wanted to orignally stay guildless. Their officers voted members out of the guild. Go figure. Only on Khyber folks.. Only on Khyber :D

[sigtrent]

If you are unguided you will get invites, just the way of things.

If you are really serious about not wanting to be asked, make your own guild and no one will ask you. Plus you can have some silly surname.

[Raegoul]

Actually, I left for 3 months, and came back on when the update came out. I joined FC only through the armwringing of Eightball. I wanted to orignally stay guildless. Their officers voted members out of the guild. Go figure. Only on Khyber folks.. Only on Khyber :D
Really, are you saying they Voted you out? Did Eightball lose his balls?

[CDG]

C'mon Kirwin, this is worth sharing. Take it to the Vault if you don't want to air it here.

[Tulsa_Doom]

Bitterness doesnt suit you Eloric. For anyone curious as to why he was expelled a simple pm will do. I hadnt seen this or I would have responded earlier. Armwringing is a strong term. I wish you will in all your endeavors both in and out of Stormreach.

[apacheizm23]

EDit.

[cdemeritt]

A simple solution, One I frequently use....

When I start a new toon, there is a good chance they will not make it past lvl 8... (more than a few toons stop about there) So I don't usually guild my lowbies, as tracking down an officer, bugging them for an invite, and then switching toons, yadda, yadda, is often more trouble than it is worth if I'm unsure the longterm viablity of said toon...

This often leads to many guild invites and such, sometimes blind guild invites... and smokies guild has been after every one of my new toons...

Sounds like you are a VIP, so creating a guild is free, and just putting a guild in the guild slot stops almost all guild requests...

[Wizzly_Bear]

Make your own, or go into your options and turn off "Accept guild invites."

[adamkatt]

Make your own, or go into your options and turn off "Accept guild invites."

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Wizzly_Bear again.

[sjwalker1973]

Bitterness doesnt suit you Eloric. For anyone curious as to why he was expelled a simple pm will do. I hadnt seen this or I would have responded earlier. Armwringing is a strong term. I wish you will in all your endeavors both in and out of Stormreach.

Well Tulsa, it's not bitterness and quite frankly I didn't really want to respond to someone's other questions about what happened. Quite frankly I don't usually go into specifics since it's your guild and you can do with it what you see fit. So be it. You just happen to have a guild that's known for being elitist towards others some times and their own members. It was the same way in the old Crimson Hand guild which was the precurser to TFC. I've witnessed it on several occasions and kept quiet about it because I know a lot of people in the guild from pre release and I have no problems with 90% of the members. Personally I should have stayed guildless before accepting your invitation a while back. It would have saved a lot of trouble on my part. I know exactly why I was removed. Your officers had a meeting and decided to boot members out. I wasn't the only one who was booted that time. You have your reasons and quite frankly it's done and over with. I never took any credence to any bad rep that TFC had since 100% of the time I grouped with TFC members, you guys were on the up and up and 100% reliable. But now I can see where some of the rep comes from but again, it's part of the guild structure. Guild membership isn't set in stone and it does purge from time to time. I've left guilds due to the politics and intra guild issues. I was actually thinking of leaving TFC anyway, you simply made the decision for me. Your officers take things way too seriously and need to lighten up. This is after all a game.
This wasn't started to go after TFC, nor was it an attempt to demean any member of TFC. This was started to get people to stop trying to send blind invites into guilds. I have no problem with TFC and never will. It's your guild, you run it as you see fit.

[Mithran]

It sounds to me as if everyone's trying their best to remain diplomatic, here. Interpersonal disagreements, misunderstandings and frustration are common in any guild. If you're particularly frustrated with your guild experiences, I think avoiding guilds altogether is a good idea.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

So create your own guild.

NotJoiningUrStupidGuild name is porbably not taken. :)

[Mr_Ed7]

Was the goal of this post to state: "Don't send me a guild invite!"? Probably not, because as most know you can start your own home guild.

The post seems more like a call for attention...maybe?

It is part of the game to invite people to guilds...

so....

[Tulsa_Doom]

Well Tulsa, it's not bitterness and quite frankly I didn't really want to respond to someone's other questions about what happened. Quite frankly I don't usually go into specifics since it's your guild and you can do with it what you see fit. So be it. You just happen to have a guild that's known for being elitist towards others some times and their own members. It was the same way in the old Crimson Hand guild which was the precurser to TFC. I've witnessed it on several occasions and kept quiet about it because I know a lot of people in the guild from pre release and I have no problems with 90% of the members. Personally I should have stayed guildless before accepting your invitation a while back. It would have saved a lot of trouble on my part. I know exactly why I was removed. Your officers had a meeting and decided to boot members out. I wasn't the only one who was booted that time. You have your reasons and quite frankly it's done and over with. I never took any credence to any bad rep that TFC had since 100% of the time I grouped with TFC members, you guys were on the up and up and 100% reliable. But now I can see where some of the rep comes from but again, it's part of the guild structure. Guild membership isn't set in stone and it does purge from time to time. I've left guilds due to the politics and intra guild issues. I was actually thinking of leaving TFC anyway, you simply made the decision for me. Your officers take things way too seriously and need to lighten up. This is after all a game.
This wasn't started to go after TFC, nor was it an attempt to demean any member of TFC. This was started to get people to stop trying to send blind invites into guilds. I have no problem with TFC and never will. It's your guild, you run it as you see fit.


1. Elitist. Since when? Anytime you get a grp of ppl playing for years together they tend to want to do things a certain way. However we take lots of pugs in our raids when we need to and try to treat them with the respect they deserve.

2. Kept quiet about things? You make it sound like there is a dirty secret the Free Companions are a bunch of elitists but you let it slide. IF anyone has a problem with guild then they have ALWAYS been free to comment to me. Sometimes this results in apologies other times justifications and sometimes even expulsions. I always answer the comment to me in game or on forums.

3. Not the only one removed. False. Sure we have expelled other members but at the time of your expulsion you were the only one.

4. Officers kicked me out. False. Sure I hold semi weekly meetings and encourage officers to voice their opinions about the guild membership and sure they vote on things like expulsion but ultimately I take complete responsibility for things. SO look to me not them when placing blame. I kicked you out.

5. Rep deserved. For someone who wishes TFC no ill will you sure do pack a mean right hook. Our rep is our rep, we have been around for over 2 and a half years almost since launch and we have had our highs and lows. Still I dont feel like members have anything to be ashamed of or worry repwise. They prove that day in and out.

6. Officers taking it seriously. Officers in TFC serve as Raid leaders and ppl who watch out for other guildies. Thats it. Other than loving loot a little too much they arent that serious about it. You make it seem like there is this cabal of officers out to mete out fictitious justice on the general membership. Im sorry we failed you so that this would be the image.

7. Demeaning TFC. Offcolor remarks and insinuations about elitist attitudes dont paint a pretty picture so please dont tell me you have no ill will. Get over it.



I dont know why this post was necessary. All you had to do was create a guild of your own and be done with it. I have to agree with some of the previous posters that this was just a call out for attention. Yes we expelled you and its never easy or fun. Operationally it goes against the idea of both the guild and game. Im sorry if I didnt explain why to you in clearer terms and feel free to pm ingame should you have any lingering doubts about why. For whatever reasons that I wont disclose here, we (meaning the officers, myself and the guild we represent) made a choice and chances are we will do so again. What I wont tolerate is someone accusing me and mine of elitist (ie bad) attitudes. Yes I invited you to guild, I thought you would work out, you didnt. It wont be the first or last time Im wrong but Ill keep trying. Good luck in all your future endeavors.

Sincerely,

Eight

[apacheizm23]

Officers serve as Raid leaders and ppl who watch out for other guildies. You mean like Goolan.

:cool:

Skywalker1972 Make yourself leader there bud,and that should take care of it. Or as someone said, add a check to the no guild invite box. sjwalker1973 You are a good player. You and I both know that you don't need a Guild to play the game. You know how it goes Some of these larger Guilds have to deal with all the different personalities people have, which is one of the negatives about having allot of members and officers etc in there Guilds.

You can always make a guild that is filled with just friends of yours that you may run with or whatever and where no one is a member sort of speak. But again you do not need to be in a Guild to play the game at the level that U enjoy playing.

[captain1z]

I dont know if its been said here but you can disable the ability to recieve guild invites in your options menu.



I hear ya about guilds and the drama/ politics............. its the reason why I shy away from joining any. I dont play this game for the drama.

[Tulsa_Doom]

[QUOTE=apacheizm23;2650516]Officers serve as Raid leaders and ppl who watch out for other guildies. You mean like Goolan.

Goolan has never been in the Free Companions. Not sure what the late necro post was about.