A Couple Differnt IntimiSoul Builds

[Impaqt]

After Listening to DDOCast this week, I decided to see what I would come up with for an IntimiSoul. A Healing specced Favored soul that can grab the attention of mobs and concentrate on heling himself while the party dishes out the damage.
Of course, I wanted to put my own spin on it so he will have a solid Blade barrier and focus on Evocation so after he intims all the mobs, he can Pop an Implosion and watch the fireworks!

WIth Intim this high, I think I would wither swap out SF: Intim for the second Spell Penn feat. Or maybe Extend come Level 17. Its a pretty solid way to make up the -2 Spell penn from the fighter levels.

Alternatively, you could drop the Sheild Mastery Feats and take Rogue levels instead of Fighter. This gives ya evasion and probobly a pretty decent Open lock skill and/or UMD. Maybe even sacrifice the 2 points I put into STR to move over to Int for a few more SKill points to play with.

No, THis build wont have any AC to speak of. But with Quicken, Solid Self healing and good DR he should be able to keep himself up just fine.

Rogue Version to Follow



Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Fighter / 18 Favored Soul)
Hit Points: 481
20 HD
144 L18 FvS
20 L2 Fighter
120 Con Bonus
10 Draconic
22 Toughness
50 TOughness Enh
20 Minos
30 GFL
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436
45 Shroud HP Item
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481

Spell Points: 2,375
1485 18 FvS
243 Chr Bonus
380 ARchmagi Item(+90% on Mana Items for l18 FvS)
285 Shroud Tier 2/3 ITem(+90% on Mana Items for l18 FvS)
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2389 Spell Points

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude/Reflex/Will
11/11/11 FvS 14
3/0/0 Fighter 2
6/3/13 Attributes
5/5/5 Resistance
1/1/1 Resist Ritual
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26/20/30 Base Saves
4/4/4 Greater Heroism Spell
2/2/2 Luck (Head of Good Fortune or Recitation SPell)
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32/26/36
4/4/4 Holy Aura(It stacks)
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36/30/40

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
{18}Strength 10 +2 Tome +6 DP
{16}Dexterity 8 +2 Tome +6 Item
{22}Constitution 14 +2 Tome +6 Item
{12}Intelligence 10+2 Tome
{36}Wisdom 18+5 Levels +1 Human +2 FvS +2 Tome +6 Item +2 Exceptional
{28}Charisma 14 +2 Tome +3 FvS +1 Human +6 Item +2 Exceptional (ALt +3 exceptional w/ FvS CHR 2)

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)

Concentration 6 27

Intimidate 23 Ranks +9 CHR +3 SF +1 FI +4GH +15 Item +2 Luck +6 Exceptional=63 +4 ActionBoost = 67 (63 with SF swapped out)


Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness

Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery

Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate

Level 4 (Favored Soul)

Level 5 (Favored Soul)

Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation

Level 7 (Favored Soul)

Level 8 (Favored Soul)

Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 10 (Favored Soul)

Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery

Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell

Level 13 (Favored Soul)

Level 14 (Favored Soul)

Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Evocation

Level 16 (Favored Soul)

Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Sonic

Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration

Level 19 (Favored Soul)

Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Human Adaptabilitty Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Concentration I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

[Impaqt]

With Rogue, You cant swap out SF: Intim for Spell Penn. If you want to shore up that SPell Penn, your gonna have to get rid of Extend.

ALso, with UMD, this opens up using StoneSkin wands to shore up your DR. Not a bad trade off at all.

Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Rogue / 18 Favored Soul)
Hit Points: 477
20 HD
144 L18 FvS
16 L2 Rogue
120 Con Bonus
10 Draconic
22 Toughness
50 TOughness Enh
20 Minos
30 GFL
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432
45 Shroud HP Item
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477


Spell Points: 2,375
1485 18 FvS
243 Chr Bonus
380 ARchmagi Item(+90% on Mana Items for l18 FvS)
285 Shroud Tier 2/3 ITem(+90% on Mana Items for l18 FvS)
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2389 Spell Points

BAB: 14/14/19/24
Fortitude/Reflex/Will
11/11/11 FvS 14
0/3/0 Rogue 2
6/3/13 Attributes
5/5/5 Resistance
1/1/1 Resist Ritual
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23/23/30 Base Saves
4/4/4 Greater Heroism Spell
2/2/2 Luck (Head of Good Fortune or Recitation SPell)
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29/29/36
4/4/4 Holy Aura(It stacks)
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33/33/40

Abilities
(32 Point)
{16}Strength 8 +2 Tome +6 DP
{16}Dexterity 8 +2 Tome +6 Item
{22}Constitution 14 +2 Tome +6 Item
{14}Intelligence 12+2 Tome (level 1 No ML Tome in the Bank)
{36}Wisdom 18+5 Levels +1 Human +2 FvS +2 Tome +6 Item +2 Exceptional
{28}Charisma 14 +2 Tome +3 FvS +1 Human +6 Item +2 Exceptional (ALt +3 exceptional w/ FvS CHR 2)

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

If you dont have a No ML Int Tome, You will probobly have to sacrifice Open Lock some. It will still be useful, but not as effective.

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)

Concentration 4 27

Intimidate 23 Ranks +15 Item +9 Chr +6 Exceptinal + 2 Luck +4 GH +3 Skill Focus = 62 +4 Boost = 66

Open Lock 3 11

Use Magic Device 6 28



Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness

Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host

Level 3 (Favored Soul)

Level 4 (Favored Soul)

Level 5 (Favored Soul)

Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation

Level 7 (Favored Soul)

Level 8 (Favored Soul)

Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 10 (Favored Soul)

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell

Level 13 (Favored Soul)

Level 14 (Favored Soul)

Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Evocation

Level 16 (Favored Soul)

Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Sonic

Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration

Level 19 (Favored Soul)

Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Concentration I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

[Samiusbot]

Impaqt I am very impressed with what you have laid out here, 2 comments

In the 18fvs/2fgt build one thing I have been debating was how to fit in the heighten spell feat on my own build and i see the same problem on your build. I wonder if going 18fvs/1fgt/1wiz for heighten might not suck? This will also let you easily get those stoneskin wands you were asking about below.

With your rog mix you could do a drow with stats like 9,10,13,13,16,16 allowing +1 tomes a far cheaper thing to come by for str and int and find many more skills for balance and maybe some better open lock or other rog skills. Again I think you have the same problem of no heighten but there is now room for adjustment here.

For the most part this this is a great completion idea of what I talked about in 'Sound Concepts" on DdoCast thanks for the footnote and the chance to comment right away!

[Impaqt]

Impaqt I am very impressed with what you have laid out here, 2 comments

In the 18fvs/2fgt build one thing I have been debating was how to fit in the heighten spell feat on my own build and i see the same problem on your build. I wonder if going 18fvs/1fgt/1wiz for heighten might not suck? This will also let you easily get those stoneskin wands you were asking about below.

Well, Heighten wont help Implosion so if your worried about Blade barrier and COmetfal, one of the SPell Focus: Evo's could get swapped withheighten for a net gain. Self cast Stoneskin is nice, but you can aways bribe a arcane or other UMDer to hit ya with it.



With your rog mix you could do a drow with stats like 9,10,13,13,16,16 allowing +1 tomes a far cheaper thing to come by for str and int and find many more skills for balance and maybe some better open lock or other rog skills. Again I think you have the same problem of no heighten but there is now room for adjustment here.

Yeah, the Drow build works pretty good for someone that doesnt have access to 32point builds. However, youlose a Skill point per level compared to my Human with a +2 Tome still due to humans getting an extra skillpoint per level. You would wind up sacrificing a bunch in final skillset. Neither one of these builds is particually new player friendly.



For the most part this this is a great completion idea of what I talked about in 'Sound Concepts" on DdoCast thanks for the footnote and the chance to comment right away!

np.. WHen I heard your segment, I gotta admit, I pretty much dismissed the idea as foolish. but after thinking about it a while and going backover some of the intimicleric builds posted, I decdied it might be a solid tactic in many raids. Thanks for the idea.

[notroh]

Impaqt - could you take fighter at level 3 and get an extra feat ?

How would you build the rogue/fvs with only 28pt ? I tried to do one but not very sucessfully.

I am just learning and I do read alot of your builds - but unfortunately I only have 28pt build char's at present.

Would be greatly interested in your response

[Impaqt]

Impaqt - could you take fighter at level 3 and get an extra feat ?

How would you build the rogue/fvs with only 28pt ? I tried to do one but not very sucessfully.

I am just learning and I do read alot of your builds - but unfortunately I only have 28pt build char's at present.

Would be greatly interested in your response

Just to be clear, I consider these build an advanced playstyle and really would not recomend them for a new player. Your mileage may vary though.

To go 28 point I would simply drop Wis to 17 and Chr to 13. You can still get the same stats i have posted from outside sources such as +3 Exceptional or +3 (+4) Tomes and the Litany trinket from the abbot raid(+1 to all stats)

If you are considering the Trinket though, Make sure your Neutral as its tainted and will give any "Good" Character a neg level.

[Samiusbot]

I was more thinking of the massive help that heighten is to command, soundburst, slay living, destruction, greater command, banishment, so on and so. I know a lot of the time you will be playing healer but you have more time then you think to remove attackers once you have their argro.

To me the second level of fighter is not needed but keeping the other spells relevant is. But my build is only level 4 right now so idk for sure.

For Notroh how close are you to the drow race? If you want to build this you can use stats not unlike the ones I laid out above and get a +1 int tome right away.

It might be a lot less skill points then a human with a +2 int tome but it is doable and you can pickup the skills as you go. It is Run in to mobs - spam intimidate – block – heal if needed. Repeat. I think you will get it!

[Impaqt]

I was more thinking of the massive help that heighten is to command, soundburst, slay living, destruction, greater command, banishment, so on and so. I know a lot of the time you will be playing healer but you have more time then you think to remove attackers once you have their argro.


My playstyle is DPS. all those spells are nice, but my trusty blade barrier rarely lets me down.

[notroh]

Hello Impaqt and Samiusbot:

I wish to thank you both for the kind advice.

I can do only 28pt Drow, but not 32pt.

I have not tried playing Drow as I mostly play Human.

I have a 4 Rogue/16 Cleric, but when FvS, came out I thought it might be a better choice for soloing late at night when regular friends are not around.

I like to discover/explore, but have some healing to keep me going.

But I will keep both of these (I have save a copy of this post) and try them out see what happens as a side project.

Again I wish to thank you both for the ideas and suggestions.

[Impaqt]

Hello Impaqt and Samiusbot:

I wish to thank you both for the kind advice.

I can do only 28pt Drow, but not 32pt.

I have not tried playing Drow as I mostly play Human.

I have a 4 Rogue/16 Cleric, but when FvS, came out I thought it might be a better choice for soloing late at night when regular friends are not around.

I like to discover/explore, but have some healing to keep me going.

But I will keep both of these (I have save a copy of this post) and try them out see what happens as a side project.

Again I wish to thank you both for the ideas and suggestions.

These are not very good choices for soloing at all... particually at low levels, this is going tobe an incredibly difficult build to solo with.

The concept of an intimi-XXX is to draw aggression away from your party members and have the mobs focus on you. while you have the mobs attention, the rest of your party comes in and kills them.

Clerics and Favored souls can solo extremely well, but this concept isnt really one I would even begin to recomend to a soloist.

[Samiusbot]

Hello Impaqt and Samiusbot:

I wish to thank you both for the kind advice.

I can do only 28pt Drow, but not 32pt.

I have not tried playing Drow as I mostly play Human.

I have a 4 Rogue/16 Cleric, but when FvS, came out I thought it might be a better choice for soloing late at night when regular friends are not around.

I like to discover/explore, but have some healing to keep me going.

But I will keep both of these (I have save a copy of this post) and try them out see what happens as a side project.

Again I wish to thank you both for the ideas and suggestions.

I agree this is not a solo build. this is a healbot FvS for grouping that gives you more to to that run behind and heal!

For that i would say more of a WF pally/monk(or rog)/wiz i really like mine but again he is a high skill build but you can learn the skills needed to run one as you play.

[notroh]

Hello again:

Ah, I thought they might be for solo, I appologize and thank you both for the correction.

But I will continue to read your builds, who knows maybe you will discover something I would like to try out.

So back to my rogue/cleric :)

[Dylos_Moon]

How well do you think a pure-FvS warforged intimisoul would work? I mean the lord of blades capstone does give +2 to intimidate, even though its not a class skill, that would result in what, 11 RANKS + 2 CAPSTONE +9 CHR +3 SF +4GH +15 Item +2 Luck +6 Exceptional=52

Since the capstone gives +2 cha as well, they could have the same Cha as your human builds with litany or +4 tome.

[Impaqt]

How well do you think a pure-FvS warforged intimisoul would work? I mean the lord of blades capstone does give +2 to intimidate, even though its not a class skill, that would result in what, 11 RANKS + 2 CAPSTONE +9 CHR +3 SF +4GH +15 Item +2 Luck +6 Exceptional=52

Since the capstone gives +2 cha as well, they could have the same Cha as your human builds with litany or +4 tome.

Ther eno doubt that End game, with all the right gear, you can ge ta very good intimidate skill.

THe Issue is during leveling up. your significantly down from the optimum score. If this isnt an issue for ya, then yeah, go for it.... I dont think it woul dbe a direction I would go though.

[Samiusbot]

How well do you think a pure-FvS warforged intimisoul would work? I mean the lord of blades capstone does give +2 to intimidate, even though its not a class skill, that would result in what, 11 RANKS + 2 CAPSTONE +9 CHR +3 SF +4GH +15 Item +2 Luck +6 Exceptional=52

Since the capstone gives +2 cha as well, they could have the same Cha as your human builds with litany or +4 tome.

I have been thinking of how to make the Wf FvS and i am not sure but i think you have to give up the high dc spells to make the build work.

Also this becomes more of a fighter, self heal, can heal others bot your main weapon is a 2 handed weapon so if you want to fight (the best) you give up the shield.

I think a WF FvS will be great but the angle of attack may not be using this plan.

[Dylos_Moon]

I have been thinking of how to make the Wf FvS and i am not sure but i think you have to give up the high dc spells to make the build work.

Also this becomes more of a fighter, self heal, can heal others bot your main weapon is a 2 handed weapon so if you want to fight (the best) you give up the shield.

I think a WF FvS will be great but the angle of attack may not be using this plan.

well, you give up a shield yes, but you get the shield spell as your capstone.

But yea, the main way I forsee making WF FvS is indeed giving up your offensive spell casting and basically turning into a healing paladin/fighter or something.

[Taurnish]

Great ideas here.. I might consider a mutt breed FVS now. You got my brain twisting and turning now Impaqt (that does not happen much on the forums anymore:cool:) so cheers to ya mate! :D