Disappointing

[RTN]

It was disappointing to see veteran players from established guilds intentionally spreading disinformation to the newbs in general chat as a source of amusement. The more players we have, the more money Turbine has, the more resources they have for development. Giving them bad information doesn't help and is just plain immature griefing.

We've worried about getting the unwashed masses of immature idiots that can fill other MMO, but from what I've seen in general chat, we're the ones acting like that.

The helpful vets vastly outnumber the griefers, but it was still very disappointing to see the few vets who were spreading disinformation for their own amusement at the expense of new players.

[Yurtrus]

I wish I could agree with you on this regarding the vets outweighing the ftp. Last night along on Ghallanda there were about 500 people.. 60% of those people were level 1. Level 2 3 4 5 went on forever too. 6-20 was a little blip. Giving out bad information just indicates the mentality of the new folk.. maybe they were not vets but your typical I have been playing a week and capped my toon to twenty using someone elses build.

Shame though that people have to be like that.. reminds me of the level 18-20 clerics and fs's in the wayward lobster just waiting for the lowbies to show up in order to show off. lol..

You get them no matter where you are.. sad.. yes, going to stop.. never..

[Elaril]

I wish I could agree with you on this regarding the vets outweighing the ftp. Last night along on Ghallanda there were about 500 people.. 60% of those people were level 1. Level 2 3 4 5 went on forever too. 6-20 was a little blip. Giving out bad information just indicates the mentality of the new folk.. maybe they were not vets but your typical I have been playing a week and capped my toon to twenty using someone elses build.

Shame though that people have to be like that.. reminds me of the level 18-20 clerics and fs's in the wayward lobster just waiting for the lowbies to show up in order to show off. lol..

You get them no matter where you are.. sad.. yes, going to stop.. never..

I think you misread the original post.

[Yurtrus]

heh.. you are right.. griefers.. lol.. my bad.. there is just so much negative about the ftp people that I have it stuck in my head.. ;) thanks for correcting me

[RTN]

No, based on the guilds, they were established players. These were clearly vets, especially the main person that was giving out the bad info.

[Memnir]

I have to agree 100%. New players are the key to this game's long-term survival. And when the veteran players go out of their way to jackasses to new players and do their best to give them a hard time - it's nothing less that pure stupidity and shortsightedness.

[Alter]

PM of the guild to make sure it wasn't any of my members.

[abull74]

/Agree

I created a guild on Cannith called Short Bus Rydas. This guild is ONLY a starter guild and iplayers are encouraged to leave the guild once they have gotten out of the harbor area. It was crated to grab the newbies and help them get settled in.

I was getting flamed in the general chat by people. Everytime I would type in something about recruiting newbies to help get you started....I would get responses like...Don't join his guild, I can tell you what you need to know....just hit alt/f4 and a guide will pop up.
OR
You don't need to join that guild....just run around and figure it out on your own.
OR
If you can't just read the manual, then we don't need ya in this game....

Nothing really overly mean or anything, but just to say, these people are obviously NOT interested in helping the game keep a strong number of players.

I have only recruited 3 people into the guild so far.....and I am out there everyday trying....but with the MANY flames I get, I think the newbies are shying away....


I AM THE FPOON!!!

[RTN]

I don't intend to spread info about the person or guild, so no need to PM me asking for the info since I won't share it.

This is mostly just to get people thinking about how we welcome the newbs. If they're using general chat for party chat, a simple reminder to use /p for party chat is useful. When they ask in general chat for a party, tell them about the social panel (type 'o') and how to check the Grouping tab. If they ask what a command is for something, just help them or ignore them. There is no call to give false info or worse.

Sorry to hear about the reaction to your efforts, abull74. The faster we help them learn the ropes, the better for all involved. If they don't want to help, then they should simply go about their business and ignore the newbs. It isn't difficult.

[Lithic]

Usually I would agree, but when theres 8 newbs begging people to tell them how to get turbine points without paying and without grinding, I find it extremely hard to resist telling them that you get 500 free TP by typing "/death tax"

When they die, I tell them they must have spelt it wrong as you need 2 spaces between death and tax.

[rnor6084]

Usually I would agree, but when theres 8 newbs begging people to tell them how to get turbine points without paying and without grinding, I find it extremely hard to resist telling them that you get 500 free TP by typing "/death tax"

When they die, I tell them they must have spelt it wrong as you need 2 spaces between death and tax.


Just tell them how it works and move on man. Really, just move on. Why play childish games?

[Glorious]

If we want this game to survive we need to help out new players. Getting them to /death is just ridiculous so I am asking you on behalf of all of us who want this game to continue - just help them.

If someone is asking a question you have seen multiple times - direct them nicely to the forums - or the glossary that's been added if you don't want to actually answer the question - or just wait for someone else to do it.

If you are a veteran and you are still here after waiting for a very very long time for new content then you must want the game to continue - so for pity's sake do your part to help it along - or at the very least just stay silent and let others help it along

[eldrytch75]

If we want this game to survive we need to help out new players. Getting them to /death is just ridiculous so I am asking you on behalf of all of us who want this game to continue - just help them.

If someone is asking a question you have seen multiple times - direct them nicely to the forums - or the glossary that's been added if you don't want to actually answer the question - or just wait for someone else to do it.

If you are a veteran and you are still here after waiting for a very very long time for new content then you must want the game to continue - so for pity's sake do your part to help it along - or at the very least just stay silent and let others help it along

Good for you someone has to be nice to the noobs. All this is why I left that hole of a server. It goes on on the other servers but I am sure not as much as T...

[Tinrae]

Although I'm a new F2P myself (on a Premium account) I can sympathize with the feelings of being overwhelmed by us newbies. I've seen some of them whining, or trolling, or just pestering people...but I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the worst whiners may not make it very far into the game before leaving anyways.

I have also tried to help some new people out too. Just tonight some guy could not figure out to PM someone and kept sending his PMs to General Chat. Responses varied from "ignored" to "use party chat geez". I sent a PM to the guy to let him know it's /tell <name> and he was honestly grateful and appreciative that I explained it to him. Was just a nice guy who didn't know about PMing because it's his first online game.

I hope that some of the scorn for F2Players is taken with a grain of salt and that we're looked at individually. Not all of us are terrible; some of us are otherwise friendly, active gamers who gave DDO a shot with the release of Unlimited and liked it here. :)

[Bartikus]

It was disappointing to see veteran players from established guilds intentionally spreading disinformation to the newbs in general chat as a source of amusement. The more players we have, the more money Turbine has, the more resources they have for development. Giving them bad information doesn't help and is just plain immature griefing.

We've worried about getting the unwashed masses of immature idiots that can fill other MMO, but from what I've seen in general chat, we're the ones acting like that.

The helpful vets vastly outnumber the griefers, but it was still very disappointing to see the few vets who were spreading disinformation for their own amusement at the expense of new players.

I'd actually like to apologize. Someone in the marketplace drank a Potion of Wonder, that apparently killed them, and they were asking for a res. I replied they should re-roll. It was a d-bag thing to do. We were already otw to Vision, or I would've gone back to throw him a res, but my bard is kinda squishy. Can't remember his name, but figured I'd apologize anyway.

[Clay]

with all due respect... some people need to take themselves a little less seriously. I like helping and mentoring and have been known to play little jokes while doing so. If one can not laugh at one's self... they need to rethink joining an MMO.

I am not aware of the details of the "griefing," as you so declare it, but any one who has read Calvin and Hobbes can understand that a little dis-information can be funny. And being new is one thing but always looking for free hand outs or not trying to discover the hows and the whys yourself is pretty weak.

Whats really funny is when you hit established players with some of that mis-information. Like the time I got an officer in my guild to test out the new /Guild Quit Recent command... while the leader was on a break... that was funny.

Here's a quote:

"why so serioussss?"

[Bartikus]

That's alot like the /death completions... its even funnier that it worked in your guild clay...

[Lorien_the_First_One]

That's alot like the /death completions... its even funnier that it worked in your guild clay...

Now that's stupid, we all know the command is /death count

[Syriania]

Good for you someone has to be nice to the noobs. All this is why I left that hole of a server. It goes on on the other servers but I am sure not as much as T...

I'm not sure they like being called noobs. :D

And I also don't think it's necessary to refer to Thelanis as "that hole of a server". :(

[Murgatroyd]

Got a guildie with "/death loc" on the weekend cause he wanted to know where he was bound. Needless to say he found out when he popped up in Meridia :D

[RTN]

Whats really funny is when you hit established players with some of that mis-information. Like the time I got an officer in my guild to test out the new /Guild Quit Recent command... while the leader was on a break... that was funny.


Doing it to established players, your friends and guildies is funny. If you're guiding along some new folks and have a little fun while doing it, that's fine because of the context and those involved can laugh about it together. Doing it to random newbs simply asking for help isn't funny.

[Glorious]

Doing it to established players, your friends and guildies is funny. If you're guiding along some new folks and have a little fun while doing it, that's fine because of the context and those involved can laugh about it together. Doing it to random newbs simply asking for help isn't funny.

Exactly - new people - not funny

And I agree with an earlier post that jokes can sometimes be funny and that MMO's breed that sort of thing - but it's really only funny when you know the person and they can share in the joke - if you are just trying to make someone look/feel stupid because they are new then it's only funny to you and not to them - and then they possibly leave the game because people here aren't building a community.

So

Be nice to the new people - pick on those who are vets and you know...

[Kraak]

Yeah Clay....you're such a jerk!


OP:

while rampant running down of newbies is obviously not appropriate. a mischievous plug here and there would be....role-playing even? don't get too hung up on it. most likely the people being persistent assess aren't vet's. and for those that are vet's and running people down, call them out - right then and there. they're just being i-bully's.

That said - I agree with Clay - a misdirection here/there can be humorous. And if the argument is "well they'll leave" instead of taking it in stride - then I've got a whole thread of "misdirection" along those lines.

Edit: to the guy that was griefing at the time - why not just call him on it - then and there and be done with it?

[DimmuBurgerKing]

I guess I experienced a little of this on my first day. (Don't let the join date on my profile fool you; that was from a trial version of DDO. I started on "Free Day" coming from LOTRO.) Anyway, I fell for "Hey guys, some of these new emotes are great! Checking "/death count" to see how many times you've died is sooo embarassing!" I never suspected there was a command to kill yourself. I laughed at myself for it, but if I had been about to complete a dungeon or something I think I might have been a little miffed.

I don't want to preach to the choir, as I don't think it likely that those folks will even read this thread. On the off chance that they do, though, please keep in mind that not all new F2Pers are created equal. Some of us are mature, friendly folks and end up helping support the game with our money like you veterans do.

Just my two coppers! :)

[Clay]

Good for you someone has to be nice to the noobs. All this is why I left that hole of a server. It goes on on the other servers but I am sure not as much as T...

clearly you are a model of compassion and understanding... way to shine the light for us all.

[Rayzorlew]

I don't intend to spread info about the person or guild, so no need to PM me asking for the info since I won't share it.

Good for you RTN!!! ;)
I really hate when a bunch of people on these forms all respond with....pm me his name or guild. Then they put them on a list, for something they never even had to deal with. I figure, you or anyone else posting a story is kind of just a heads up, and from that point I'll watch for it myself.....then if they deserve a reaction from me they'll get one.



I don't want to preach to the choir, as I don't think it likely that those folks will even read this thread. On the off chance that they do, though, please keep in mind that not all new F2Pers are created equal. Some of us are mature, friendly folks and end up helping support the game with our money like you veterans do.
Just my two coppers! :)

There is ribbing/pranking in every aspect of life. It allows us to us to weed out the whiners, from the DimmuBurgerKings. The way you took the joke Dimmu tells me that if you chose too, you’ll probably get along just fine here on Thelanis. Now someone who would get all butthurt about that same thing, frankly we don’t want them here anyway.
Besides there’s a chat (/advice) for the newbs, If they type something in there…I believe they shouldn’t be messed with.

I think a lot of vets, have forgotten the fun we had back in the day:
Hasting instead of feather falling off the top of Tempest spine.
Summoning, then recalling 1st.
Taking newbs out to Threnal, and leaving them in the tent. (before there was transporter)
I still make Shroud newbs run around looking for the res shrine when we load into part 5 dead.
Hell, last night I had a few “Tower of Despair” newbs try and jump down to help Aerritrakeos (spelling?:confused:?) when they shrunk him.

In all of these instances, usually the whole party laughs….including the newb. The few times someone got butthurt, well I considered it weeding out the poor sported.


I do believe the free play can help the game. I also appreciate Turbine doing what they can to keep a game I love competitive. Yes, I’ve been critical of them before, but honestly there is no other game out there I want to play. So hopefully F2P, will give them funding to develop more content at a faster pace.:D

[Delt]

I imagine I know who and when it was. The whole incident was pretty stupid and not particularly cool.

...except /shoehelmet. That was kinda funny.

[Clay]

good post Womp.

I didn't really see general chat as I have been so excited to be running new content and gaining xp that actually means something I have been pretty much just doing that.

I have seen some stupid things in general chat... that almost made me respond... but, as usual, I was the last one to the quest and my party was waiting!

[jarlaxle_dourden]

I actually think most of the grief is not coming from the Vets but actually from what I like to call re-noob griefers.

These are people who left the game because they had no new players to grief for such a long time ... now that we have a new influx of ppl these types of players are back and doing their thing again.

It takes a certain type of person to act this way ... in my opinion, the parents spared the rod a little too much on these folks.

I try to be as patient as I can with the new players ... sometimes I get ticked. Some of them are new (doesn't bother me to help) and then some of them are just plain stunned (drop these guys off at the next block).

[Mekkah]

It's just "tough love" so lighten up.

Xoriat....errrr....Thelanis, has a known rep for being the way we are.

n00bs chose to play here and personally, the "tough love" factor can make them better players.

[Rayzorlew]

It's just "tough love" so lighten up.

Xoriat....errrr....Thelanis, has a known rep for being the way we are.

n00bs chose to play here and personally, the "tough love" factor can make them better players.

When I get home from work, you my friend get +1rep. ;)

(for some reason at work something is blocking my rep button.:confused:)

[MrWizard]

IF you really wanto to have fun, roll up a toon and call it 'secretdev' or something like that.

Then just sit in general chat and say stuff that sounds official, highlight your text as red..."thank you for playing EU" and such.

You will start being a FAQ monster...as long as you are honest and actually help it is kinda cool.

I did that on Lam one day....it was quite funny. Even gave people money to help them.

Lots of VIPs fall for it and ask about bugs and such, which is the funny part....duh

[Chaos000]

Still remember the "rendered mode" will initiate when you hit the letter "r"

wow looks amazing. go the edge and go to rendered mode, you'll never see the game the same way again.

Tempest spine. End chest. I think like half the group ran off the cliff.

In my defense it wasn't me! :D

[Chaos000]

p.s. if you laugh at the above scenario. you have no soul

pps. if you don't laugh you have no sense of humor

[Zippo]

I don't intend to spread info about the person or guild, so no need to PM me asking for the info since I won't share it.

This is mostly just to get people thinking about how we welcome the newbs. If they're using general chat for party chat, a simple reminder to use /p for party chat is useful. When they ask in general chat for a party, tell them about the social panel (type 'o') and how to check the Grouping tab. If they ask what a command is for something, just help them or ignore them. There is no call to give false info or worse.

Sorry to hear about the reaction to your efforts, abull74. The faster we help them learn the ropes, the better for all involved. If they don't want to help, then they should simply go about their business and ignore the newbs. It isn't difficult.

For him I think he wants to police his own if it is. And since you don't want to give out who it was may be best for him to send you a PM of his guild and at which point you can just yay or nay him on whether it was his guild or not.

[Glorious]

Guys - you are missing the point in my humble opinion

Teasing, etc. is great when you know the person - catching someone in a jest is excellent when they have confidence and are comfortable in their surroundings.

I have been playing this game for 3 years and got caught by Coldin a week ago - in Bastion of Power he told me to jump into the light at the centre of the maze and I stupidly did just that and boom was dead...(funniest part about it was that then he had to come get me out of the locked room but I digress)

We know each other, I have confidence in beign a player/member of this community so it was hilarious - however if I had been on the game for 4 days I would have been pretty **** frustrated.

I will repeat myself only because I am looking for things to come out of the wash shiny and silky - be nice to the new people - we want their time, and their money so this game will grow.

If you want to make fun of people - pick on your friends -see who hasn't read the release notes so that you can catch them with silly things that will kill them...

[Vivanto]

If we want this game to survive we need to help out new players. Getting them to /death is just ridiculous so I am asking you on behalf of all of us who want this game to continue - just help them.

Clearly, he was talking about the froobs who have absolutely no intention of paying a penny, just want a free ride. How exactly would these players contribute the the game's survival at all?

[Vivanto]

Still remember the "rendered mode" will initiate when you hit the letter "r"

wow looks amazing. go the edge and go to rendered mode, you'll never see the game the same way again.

Tempest spine. End chest. I think like half the group ran off the cliff.

In my defense it wasn't me! :D

Heard a story where guild leader was - for whatever reason - away from game for a couple months, and an unnamed person tricked a guildy by saying you can check who left guild last time by typing /guild quit recent ... he was an officer at the time :p

[Astindan]

The guild idea was great, people just wanted to show they're better than everyone else since they are low level. I'm still new, I'm f2p, but going to be a premium probably soon, and when I give imformation, I make sure its correct. Everyone in stormreach harbor was spamming up the chat yesterday on argonessan for LFG -_-

[Drayth]

I think I know exactly whom you are speaking about OP. I was shocked at what he was saying, and actually reported him for griefing... 2 days later I saw that he was a rahter high level and a officer in a well known guild. I was shocked that ANY respectable guild officer would even say what he was saying - and even more shocked that his guild leader even has allowed him to stay in their guild.

I am amazed at how immature and childish some "vet" players can be. We ALL were new players once, and if it wasnt for some nicer people to help us out and show us the ropes we may not be here today.

Just remember being a newbie isnt a crime... being a noob ( vet noob) at least is a moral crime.. IMHO

I wont let this reflect bad on the guild he belongs to, as I have found most of the people in there to be fun loving and good hearted people. And, Yes every large group of people can have some that just dont get along. In this case. I wont have to deal with him anymore. Squelch is your friend. But for the most part, I find a good majority of the vets are willing to go to great lengths to help explain something that we find as trivial and overwhelmingly easy to comprehend - to those that just dont understand it yet...

[RTN]

Clearly, he was talking about the froobs who have absolutely no intention of paying a penny, just want a free ride. How exactly would these players contribute the the game's survival at all?

I'm sorry, how do you differentiate between a froob and a newb? How do you know that a F2P person hasn't already bought points? I personally know of at least one F2P that has already bought thousands of points. The whole point of F2P is that they'll eventually buy some points or hopefully go VIP because they like the game. Getting griefed when you first enter the game and are just looking for a little help isn't a positive experience.

Please share with us how you're able to tell if someone has bought points or not, or is a new VIP.

[Vivanto]

I'm sorry, how do you differentiate between a froob and a newb? How do you know that a F2P person hasn't already bought points? I personally know of at least one F2P that has already bought thousands of points. The whole point of F2P is that they'll eventually buy some points or hopefully go VIP because they like the game. Getting griefed when you first enter the game and are just looking for a little help isn't a positive experience.

Please share with us how you're able to tell if someone has bought points or not, or is a new VIP.

Backtrack to the source of my quote and you'll soon find it out.


Usually I would agree, but when theres 8 newbs begging people to tell them how to get turbine points without paying and without grinding, I find it extremely hard to resist telling them that you get 500 free TP by typing "/death tax"

When they die, I tell them they must have spelt it wrong as you need 2 spaces between death and tax.

[incontinetia]

I have been helping out new folks a bit on sarlona.

The problem I think lies within turbines hands off approach to the influx of new players.
I really enjoy helping people on this game. That being said, if Turbine had a system like second life does, they could reward vips with points or some free sub time. Players(if that is what they are in 2nd life:) ) can sign up for jobs that are only a couple hours a week that earn them in game money for welcoming new people and answering their questions. Also I think that the advice channel should have some kind of limits to who can join it. Such as a password given out in a forum sign-up if you want to help out.

Actually I do see the humor in the /deaths and altf-4s but it does get old quick.

This system could be easily implemented, would make everyones life a bit easier, and maybe give vips a little free playtime and points.

Doable?
-Incon

[Clay]

If someone wants to reply to questions with stupid answers without violating Turbine's rules it is not for me to judge. I trust that the individuals at the receiving end are intelligent enough to recognize the answers for what they are... and if they don't, they soon will. Maybe the aforementioned "griefer" was actually being altruistic and, via a tuff luv method, teaching these new guys something?

The proper course of action would have been to address the issue directly at the time, either offering the correct advice, reporting said individual, or calling out said individual for picking on too easy a target. Or all three.

Is it possible that we are making more out of an issue that it really is? That the so-called newbies are actually capable of taking care of themselves? That this isn't the first time in their life they have had to deal with someone less than polite? I mean, if they need hand holding just to navigate around general chat in an MMO...

Yeah I was new once... and I don't forget that... which is why I enjoy mentoring. I also enjoyed learning things for myself, and using in game tools, wiki's, and forums to answer my questions. How does that saying go? Give a man a [answer] vs. teach a man to [find his own answers] ... or something like that... :D

[Memnir]

How does that saying go?"Teach a man how to build a fire, and he will be warm for the night. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm the rest of his life..."

That saying? :D
Cause I really like that one.




........http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/EnPsyane/fireman.jpg
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[Deusxmachina]

Must be different timing. The majority I see in general chat are people giving informative answers and helping newbies out.

[DimmuBurgerKing]

Must be different timing. The majority I see in general chat are people giving informative answers and helping newbies out.

The vast majority of the community has been pretty hospitable, speaking from my own experience. Special kudos to Morrandir for coming to Korthos on day one and pretty much devoting his day to helping us poor lost souls get accustomed to the game. It was a fine gesture and very much appreciated!

[Syriania]

Clearly, he was talking about the froobs who have absolutely no intention of paying a penny, just want a free ride.

First, that's not true.


How exactly would these players contribute the the game's survival at all?

Second, and while some of the players will most likely remain free to play, I'm sure there will be a great many who, just like the majority of us at the beginning, enjoy the game a lot and if they want to be able to enjoy it as freely as we do they will need a subscription.

Third, even the people who do not get a subscription are still contributing to the cash flow. Many people assume that free players do not pay a thing, which is incorrect. Even if a free player decided he/she did not want more than two characters and they did not want either to be a Drow, Warforged, Favored Soul, (and possibly Monk? not sure if those must be purchased for F2P) not only does said person still have to pay for the majority of the quests he/she runs, but they also must purchase a level sigil every time they want to level up. Sure, Turbine awards points as you level up and get favor, but not enough to be able to purchase all of these items. So while a F2P player may not give them a fixed amount of money every month, they still contribute to the overall cash flow with the purchasing of Turbine points.

[Syriania]

lmao!

I just noticed Memnir's blog. That's kind of cute. :D

It looks like you've been a busy boy!! Geez Mem, do you write a new article every hour?!

[Glorious]

First, that's not true.



Second, and while some of the players will most likely remain free to play, I'm sure there will be a great many who, just like the majority of us at the beginning, enjoy the game a lot and if they want to be able to enjoy it as freely as we do they will need a subscription.

Third, even the people who do not get a subscription are still contributing to the cash flow. Many people assume that free players do not pay a thing, which is incorrect. Even if a free player decided he/she did not want more than two characters and they did not want either to be a Drow, Warforged, Favored Soul, (and possibly Monk? not sure if those must be purchased for F2P) not only does said person still have to pay for the majority of the quests he/she runs, but they also must purchase a level sigil every time they want to level up. Sure, Turbine awards points as you level up and get favor, but not enough to be able to purchase all of these items. So while a F2P player may not give them a fixed amount of money every month, they still contribute to the overall cash flow with the purchasing of Turbine points.


Exactly - what she said...obviously 2 great minds (ours) think alike :)

[Memnir]

lmao!

I just noticed Memnir's blog. That's kind of cute. :D

It looks like you've been a busy boy!! Geez Mem, do you write a new article every hour?!Lol... Nah, I maybe write one a day. And even then, only if I have something I want to write about. Never kept a blog before, but I don't want to treat it like some kind of online diary. I'm really not interesting enough to pull it off. :)

[Syriania]

Lol... Nah, I maybe write one a day. And even then, only if I have something I want to write about. Never kept a blog before, but I don't want to treat it like some kind of online diary. I'm really not interesting enough to pull it off. :)

Ok well I'm going to check it every now and again and leave racy comments on new posts!! ;)

[Syriania]

exactly - What She Said...obviously 2 Great Minds (ours) Think Alike :)

<3

[Twerpp]

I cant tell you how many times I wanna do it. For the lulz. But I dont.

[Memnir]

Ok well I'm going to check it every now and again and leave racy comments on new posts!! ;)Best news I've heard all week! Racy comments rock, even if they do make Mr. Broccoli blush. :D

[Syriania]

Best news I've heard all week! Racy comments rock, even if they do make Mr. Broccoli blush. :D

Mr. Broccoli? O.o

[Pyromaniac]

Many people assume that free players do not pay a thing, which is incorrect. Even if a free player decided he/she did not want more than two characters and they did not want either to be a Drow, Warforged, Favored Soul, (and possibly Monk? not sure if those must be purchased for F2P) not only does said person still have to pay for the majority of the quests he/she runs, but they also must purchase a level sigil every time they want to level up.

I seem to remember reading that you can find level sigils while questing? I'm pretty sure you can be completely F2P if you want, though there would be a lot of grinding.