Too Hard!!!

[Quikster]

The new quests are too hard. Im taking too much damage. Theres not enough xp :( The new raid is too hard! Theres not enough good loot, and a caster took my palys DoS belt :(

[adamkatt]

The new quests are too hard. Im taking too much damage. Theres not enough xp :( The new raid is too hard! Theres not enough good loot, and a caster took my palys DoS belt :(

Game over man, GAME OVER!

[soupertc]

must be bored if your *****in about other peoples *****in.

[soupertc]

either that or your trying to break ur record of 20 page thread on Sarlona....let's give it a go.

[captain1z]

The new quests are too hard. Im taking too much damage. Theres not enough xp :( The new raid is too hard! Theres not enough good loot, and a caster took my palys DoS belt :(

I think people are allowed to say the new quests are too hard and be taken seriously IF and ONLY IF they have attempted to run the quest with a 19th level character.

If you are running it with a level 16-17 I dont think you have a valid point. Granted dungeon scaling is making it harder when you have 5-6 people but in a group of 1-4 with 18-19 levels if your still finding it resources draining during each encounter......... then yeah you may have a point.

[Kraldor]

I think people are allowed to say the new quests are too hard and be taken seriously IF and ONLY IF they have attempted to run the quest with a 19th level character.

If you are running it with a level 16-17 I dont think you have a valid point. Granted dungeon scaling is making it harder when you have 5-6 people but in a group of 1-4 with 18-19 levels if your still finding it resources draining during each encounter......... then yeah you may have a point.

Meh, not like it's hard at level 16-17 either.

[Quikster]

I think people are allowed to say the new quests are too hard and be taken seriously IF and ONLY IF they have attempted to run the quest with a 19th level character.

If you are running it with a level 16-17 I dont think you have a valid point. Granted dungeon scaling is making it harder when you have 5-6 people but in a group of 1-4 with 18-19 levels if your still finding it resources draining during each encounter......... then yeah you may have a point.

Im capped along with the rest of the party. We have every single piece of uber loot in the game, and are all the best builds touting highest dps as well as highest ac and dr and full umd. All are the very very best of the best. The new content is simply too hard.

[Doomcrew]

.... Didn't Legion complete this content/raid in one day?

[moops]

We Loves Us some Devils and Orthons, please, lets have another 6 quests with them, YAWN.

[Pallol_One-Eye]

We Loves Us some Devils and Orthons, please, lets have another 6 quests with them, YAWN.

Wait for it.........
wait for it........

Undead Devils and Orthons are the new Black......oh so fashionable!

[baflin_haverstaff]

I'm finding that I'm rather enjoying some of the lowbie quests. That sharn syndicate quest chain was rather fun. The force mace I got is cool.

[Vivanto]

.... Didn't Legion complete this content/raid in one day?

More like 3 hours within launch, highest lvl 17, couple of us not even fully twinked ... New stuff is.. different, but not hard.

[Rrend]

We Loves Us some Devils and Orthons, please, lets have another 6 quests with them, YAWN.

There are new low level quests without orthons and devils, but you might not get uber loot out of those. Life is full of really hard game choices. How do we cope?

[Rrend]

More like 3 hours within launch, highest lvl 17, couple of us not even fully twinked ... New stuff is.. different, but not hard.

The problem is most groups are so used to zerging everything that suddenly having to rely a little bit on crowd control or actually buff or kill most mobs is "hard." New changes are excellent and make the game more fun... My level 16 cleric in a 6 man group in Sins on normal was not happy (40 heal scrolls, 4 cure crit wands, and 1 pot) but at least the group was forced to use a web or dancing ball for a change.

[Pallol_One-Eye]

The problem is most groups are so used to zerging everything that suddenly having to rely a little bit on crowd control or actually buff or kill most mobs is "hard." New changes are excellent and make the game more fun... My level 16 cleric in a 6 man group in Sins on normal was not happy (40 heal scrolls, 4 cure crit wands, and 1 pot) but at least the group was forced to use a web or dancing ball for a change.

I find that my gimped Sorc rules with......heightened web...........how much fun is THAT?:rolleyes:

Instakill still works fine, as long as you energy drain half of the mobs first. I am actually having better success with Polar Ray than anything else.

Guess I need to go pick up some more debuffs and just toe the party line.:mad::o:(

[Quikster]

No its not differnet, just too hard! To many rescources and party wipes. After trying for a week my uber partys still wipe in the Invasion end fight. I cant even get through all the explorers without at least one party wipe.

The shroud has been beefed up as well. It is now uncompletable as it stands. Harry just puts out too much damage!

[Hendrik]

Im capped along with the rest of the party. We have every single piece of uber loot in the game, and are all the best builds touting highest dps as well as highest ac and dr and full umd. All are the very very best of the best. The new content is simply too hard.

Goes to show that it is not the gear that makes the character, it's the person behind them.




No its not differnet, just too hard! To many rescources and party wipes. After trying for a week my uber partys still wipe in the Invasion end fight. I cant even get through all the explorers without at least one party wipe.

The shroud has been beefed up as well. It is now uncompletable as it stands. Harry just puts out too much damage!

Since I am no where near as 'uber' as you tout yourself to be, and I have completed two Shrouds in the last day, the problem lies not with the content.

[Molotov]

+1 rep to OP

[Quikster]

Goes to show that it is not the gear that makes the character, it's the person behind them.

Me and my groups are leetsauce! We have all teh leet builds, and all the leet gear. I used to be able to solo the vale! The new content is too hard, plain and simple! Not enough xp for those quests, and my uberz ac is now tartar sauce. I had to by 400 mana pots just to finish weapons shipment, and it took 3 hours. Its just too hard!

[Visty]

Me and my groups are leetsauce! We have all teh leet builds, and all the leet gear. I used to be able to solo the vale! The new content is too hard, plain and simple! Not enough xp for those quests, and my uberz ac is now tartar sauce. I had to by 400 mana pots just to finish weapons shipment, and it took 3 hours. Its just too hard!

if you are leet, then the content isnt too hard
if the content is too hard, youre not leet

easy as it is

even the raid got pugged already in 54mins without any retry, so if youre really leet, you wont have problems in this new content
even genesis elite with 6 ppl witout using ressources nor any death is doable

[Thelmallen]

Me and my groups are leetsauce! We have all teh leet builds, and all the leet gear. I used to be able to solo the vale! The new content is too hard, plain and simple! Not enough xp for those quests, and my uberz ac is now tartar sauce. I had to by 400 mana pots just to finish weapons shipment, and it took 3 hours. Its just too hard!

I'm guessing you're totally out of TPs from buying all of those super mana boosters as well.

+1 rep for you!

[Quikster]

I'm guessing you're totally out of TPs from buying all of those super mana boosters as well.

+1 rep for you!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:Ty TY TY i forgot!. We dont get enough turbine points. All my alts had max favor, and I got screwed!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Kalari]

How is anyone not reading this not laughing their ass off? Quik saying something's too hard is like me playing the game sober...something is definitely wrong with it and if taken too seriously may cause your brain damage :p

Either way I like the challenge hard drunk is even funnier then it was before and man will the drinking games be on now! stuff that flawless victory nonsense its ever abled body drinker to his/herself :)

And to you Quik lol good one I needed a laugh today had a headache the size of my dwarf girl's butt (yep that big woo).

[Cedrica-the-Bard]

Double post. oops!

[Cedrica-the-Bard]

The new quests are too hard. Im taking too much damage. Theres not enough xp :( The new raid is too hard! Theres not enough good loot, and a caster took my palys DoS belt :(

If everyone would just resort to using weakening/enfeebling, the new stuff would be cake. :D Easier on the clerics at the very least, lol.

[Minor_Threat]

http://www.cohesivegraphics.com/images/baby_reroll.jpg

[Quikster]

How is anyone not reading this not laughing their ass off? Quik saying something's too hard is like me playing the game sober...something is definitely wrong with it and if taken too seriously may cause your brain damage :p

Either way I like the challenge hard drunk is even funnier then it was before and man will the drinking games be on now! stuff that flawless victory nonsense its ever abled body drinker to his/herself :)

And to you Quik lol good one I needed a laugh today had a headache the size of my dwarf girl's butt (yep that big woo).

Lies! All lies!!!

[SEMPER]

im agreeing with kalari here , everyone just doesnt know u good enough and takes everything u say too seriously , but in the end thats what makes this thread funny as ever

[gserlenga]

The problem is most groups are so used to zerging everything that suddenly having to rely a little bit on crowd control or actually buff or kill most mobs is "hard." New changes are excellent and make the game more fun... My level 16 cleric in a 6 man group in Sins on normal was not happy (40 heal scrolls, 4 cure crit wands, and 1 pot) but at least the group was forced to use a web or dancing ball for a change.

Agree, and want to see more anti-zerging quests I love it muahahaa.

[ariel7]

The new quests are too hard. Im taking too much damage. Theres not enough xp :( The new raid is too hard! Theres not enough good loot, and a caster took my palys DoS belt :(


Im capped along with the rest of the party. We have every single piece of uber loot in the game, and are all the best builds touting highest dps as well as highest ac and dr and full umd. All are the very very best of the best. The new content is simply too hard.


No its not differnet, just too hard! To many rescources and party wipes. After trying for a week my uber partys still wipe in the Invasion end fight. I cant even get through all the explorers without at least one party wipe.

The shroud has been beefed up as well. It is now uncompletable as it stands. Harry just puts out too much damage!

Before I make a serious response to these and other posts in here, I'd like to ask....are these posts how you really feel or are they a joke of some sort?

[William_the_Bat]

Yeah, kinda funny... I soloed out in the battleground for a while on my pally, good fun.

Guildies wanted to do bastion, and somehow the sorc forgot what crowd control was, the ranger had no trans/pg (he's new, I'll give him a pass), the monk seemed to disappear every time there was a fight, the cleric did her best to heal, but the barb party leader insisted in supermaning all the portal fights. We wiped about 7 times, and I didn't even get to complete the quest because after 5 hours or whatever I had RL commitments.

Next I PUGed weapons shipment and silver flame... smooth and easy.

Don't get me wrong, I love my guild and I would not trade them for the world, but sometimes I just gotta smack my head.

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

Before I make a serious response to these and other posts in here, I'd like to ask....are these posts how you really feel or are they a joke of some sort?

~cues Mirta voice~ And then I lost my xp bonus when I had to step out to show them where the quests are in the battlefield! Reported, to their guild leader!

Quik, you should have ate a proper breakfast, don't ya know that's the key to a good day of gaming?

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/dznblkrzs/204805109074leetcereal.jpg

[Clay]

~cues Mirta voice~ And then I lost my xp bonus when I had to step out to show them where the quests are in the battlefield! Reported, to their guild leader!

lol

heya gurl! long time!

[stz]

:o

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

lol

heya gurl! long time!

hey Clay ~hugs~ way too long ((off to bed now, catch ya laters))

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/dznblkrzs/0013.gif

[Quikster]

~cues Mirta voice~ And then I lost my xp bonus when I had to step out to show them where the quests are in the battlefield! Reported, to their guild leader!

Quik, you should have ate a proper breakfast, don't ya know that's the key to a good day of gaming?

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/dznblkrzs/204805109074leetcereal.jpg



N00b, dont you know that real gamers have liquid meals! Go back to wow :P

[ariel7]

~cues Mirta Voice~ And Then I Lost My Xp Bonus When I Had To Step Out To Show Them Where The Quests Are In The Battlefield! Reported, To Their Guild Leader!

quik, You Should Have Ate A Proper Breakfast, Don't Ya Know That's The Key To A Good Day Of Gaming?

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/dznblkrzs/204805109074leetcereal.jpg



Rofl

[Pallol_One-Eye]

+1 Rep, nuff said :D;):p

[Quikster]

Did I mention the new quests are too hard?!??!?!?!11!?!?!!??!?!?!?1!?!?!?!?1

[Thelmallen]

You know, you're right. I ran weapon's shipment on normal last night with a full group, no optionals, and man was it tough! I think I'm going to farm the shroud for XP until I get to 20th level before going back into the battlefield again.

Boy were you ever right, Quik!

[Kronik]

So I take it you are saying that the new quests ran on Elite are hard right? Even on elite and only being only level 18 I was suprisingly underwhelmed. All be it, I was in some kick ass PUG groups this weekend.

May be the title of this thread should be Too Long!

[Kalari]

Snipped :) hehe

[Quikster]

snipped

Darn will you be quiet pls. You keep spoiling it, edit your post so I can edit this one, then I can start another in a day or two :) You have an uncanny ability to see in the future :P

[Flasharte]

its too hard for me to determine sarcasm from seriousness. If only there were a special font to denote the difference!

[Alavatar]

its too hard for me to determine sarcasm from seriousness. If only there were a special font to denote the difference!

Once again I place the blame solely on tight pants!

[Zenako]

Quik...I can see the root of your problem....

Groups...

Of course it is too hard, you insist on running with friends instead of just owning those silly ass quests on when running solo....

Of course if they actually do fix the scaling up with groups, instead of just scaling down when not...your opinion my change....

But I gotta agree...liquid fuel for gaming...a must.

[Zenako]

its too hard for me to determine sarcasm from seriousness. If only there were a special font to denote the difference!

Quickster Font....hmmmm...for those special times when you can never be too careful...:eek:

[Draiden]

Quik, you crack me up dude.

Liquid Fuel... Mountain Dew and the occasional cigarette is all you need. To all you ladies out there who are having dieting issues...? Pay attention.

:)

[NiBB]

If you pay me 1mil plat I'll show you how to put all that uber gear to good use. ;)

Yes, Quik.. the price went up from last time... I am beginning to think you are a lost cause.

[Quikster]

If you pay me 1mil plat I'll show you how to put all that uber gear to good use. ;)

Yes, Quik.. the price went up from last time... I am beginning to think you are a lost cause.

What happened to " Ill look you up in game to take some of that gear off yer hands"?

[ron_wanderer1]

simple soultion hang out on korthos where everyone is uber.....

[Quikster]

simple soultion hang out on korthos where everyone is uber.....

Hey big guy, youre about 2 weeks late :D

[NiBB]

What happened to " Ill look you up in game to take some of that gear off yer hands"?

Well, you already traded the DoD... you should owe me 20% on that sale, actually.

[Quikster]

Well, you already traded the DoD... you should owe me 20% on that sale, actually.

I owe you because youre a day late and a dollar short? Pfffft!

Enough, open the servers already so Symp gets off the forums!

[gfunk]

No its not differnet, just too hard! To many rescources and party wipes. After trying for a week my uber partys still wipe in the Invasion end fight. I cant even get through all the explorers without at least one party wipe.

The shroud has been beefed up as well. It is now uncompletable as it stands. Harry just puts out too much damage!

nice quik!: reelin' em in and gutting em on the boat..

but c'mon, trolling these forums is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel..

anyways, +1...

[Quikster]

nice quik!: reelin' em in and gutting em on the boat..

but c'mon, trolling these forums is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel..

anyways, +1...

I know but sometimes I just like to hear the "Boom" and dont care that im being unfair :) Besides, thats why fish lay so many eggs at a time, so shmucks like me can kill em for sport :D

[sephiroth1084]

No its not differnet, just too hard! To many rescources and party wipes. After trying for a week my uber partys still wipe in the Invasion end fight. I cant even get through all the explorers without at least one party wipe.

The shroud has been beefed up as well. It is now uncompletable as it stands. Harry just puts out too much damage!

Are you being sarcastic?

Completed Shroud on Hard the other day with only 1 death (aside from the obvious), with 2 clerics. Some guildies completed it on Elite the day after.

Bring an intimitank into the new content. That makes things much easier for everything but the end fight of A New Invasion. I'll agree that that fight is too hard, though some people are having an easy time of it. We did a pretty solid run through yesterday, where the cleric ran around dropping blade barriers and the melees ran behind trying to hit the pit fiend. It was faster than my previous runs, but the cleric still downed a half dozen majors, which is really excessive.

The raid is rough! I'll not argue that, but solid strategy pays off. I've completed twice on my intimitank, zero times on my wizard, out of about 12-15 tries. The first completion was luck, and Enthrall. Still not sure how we pulled that one out. The second completion was smooth as silk. Ended up going with the hero method, ala VoN 6. One WF tank on the boss, 2 casters taking care of orthons, one intimitank on Sulu (probably could have had the melees beating on his ass, but we had only 2 clerics and they were focused on the tank).

[ace_mason]

The new quests are too hard. Im taking too much damage. Theres not enough xp :( The new raid is too hard! Theres not enough good loot, and a caster took my palys DoS belt :(
TO HARD!!!
I thought there was gonna be a viagra joke in here somewhere.

[Quikster]

TO HARD!!!
I thought there was gonna be a viagra joke in here somewhere.

Oh darn, thats a good idea, -5 rep for me pls for not working that in :(

[gfunk]

10 signs that the mod 9 is too hard:

1) you had to sell all your large scales to foot your repair bills.
2) you wear your Royal Guard mask full time for quick exit incase of imminent party wipes
3) you crafted mineral II's for your caster because none of your spells land anymore
4) you had to get a second credit card for your Turbine-store res-clickie fund
5) you wait for a 3rd cleric to fill your shroud run
6) your cleric doesn't bother with heals anymore, hot keys 1 through 9 are just for various raise dead spells now.
7) you have to multiclass all your characters with either barb/monk/or acrobat so that you can run away from mobs faster.
8) you actually fight in the crowd control now
9) you re-spec'd your barbarian for ranged because you don't have enough HP to melee anymore.
10) you've ever said "hjeel me" in party chat

[sephiroth1084]

8) you actually fight in the crowd control now
Probably aimed at the melees who tend to ignore a caster's best efforts to ease the process, but I've been doing that on my wizard now.

[Graygan]

10 signs that the mod 9 is too hard:
10) you've ever said "hjeel me" in party chat

LOL... I had that happen yesterday in "Where there's Smoke, There's Fire". I know I'm just a returning player starting over again, but it seems to me that it's common sense that you don't run out of range of the only healer in the group and aggro 3 full camps of level appropriate elites on yourself... then expect me to come running to save your butt. (If I did that in my PnP group, my DM would justly kill off my character and have me reroll... or worse... capture my dwarf, shave him, and force him to drink dirty water(instead of alcohol) in some hanging cage or another)

Everyone else survived without a death while we worked our way through them to save our dead barbarian.

Ah well... at least it was highly amusing watching him type out his frustrations in /p. He was bored so he ran ahead. Then he was even more bored because he had to wait for us to come get him out of his mess. Provided a lot of laughs for the rest of us.

[moops]

10 signs that the mod 9 is too hard:

1) you had to sell all your large scales to foot your repair bills.
2) you wear your Royal Guard mask full time for quick exit incase of imminent party wipes
3) you crafted mineral II's for your caster because none of your spells land anymore
4) you had to get a second credit card for your Turbine-store res-clickie fund
5) you wait for a 3rd cleric to fill your shroud run
6) your cleric doesn't bother with heals anymore, hot keys 1 through 9 are just for various raise dead spells now.
7) you have to multiclass all your characters with either barb/monk/or acrobat so that you can run away from mobs faster.
8) you actually fight in the crowd control now
9) you re-spec'd your barbarian for ranged because you don't have enough HP to melee anymore.
10) you've ever said "hjeel me" in party chat

LOL awesome. . .I can't rep you yet though because I still need to spread it around more. . .I still might make that lightning 2 Q Staff:)

[Thelmallen]

10 signs that the mod 9 is too hard:

1) you had to sell all your large scales to foot your repair bills.
2) you wear your Royal Guard mask full time for quick exit incase of imminent party wipes
3) you crafted mineral II's for your caster because none of your spells land anymore
I may try this with Sulien as he's borked now. Thanks for the idea!
4) you had to get a second credit card for your Turbine-store res-clickie fund
5) you wait for a 3rd cleric to fill your shroud run
Or two if one of them has Hex*.* in her name
6) your cleric doesn't bother with heals anymore, hot keys 1 through 9 are just for various raise dead spells now.
LOL
7) you have to multiclass all your characters with either barb/monk/or acrobat so that you can run away from mobs faster.
8) you actually fight in the crowd control now
Pffffft. Who needs crowd control when your cleric has #6 on this list?!
9) you re-spec'd your barbarian for ranged because you don't have enough HP to melee anymore.
10) you've ever said "hjeel me" in party chat
<cough>garth<cough>


Great list, Leafy!

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

<cough>garth<cough>


meh!!! I actually had someone comment they could keep my monk healed while solo tanking the Horned Devil in Tower part 1 using a waterworks eternal wand of cure light wounds...!!111one... might be an interesting challenge anyway... :)

Garth

[Thelmallen]

meh!!! I actually had someone comment they could keep my monk healed while solo tanking the Horned Devil in Tower part 1 using a waterworks eternal wand of cure light wounds...!!111one... might be an interesting challenge anyway... :)

Garth

A couple of those ToD runs Bladetuner was just using a cure serious wounds wand on Tibetan with only the occasional need for a heavier duty heal.

[Quikster]

meh!!! I actually had someone comment they could keep my monk healed while solo tanking the Horned Devil in Tower part 1 using a waterworks eternal wand of cure light wounds...!!111one... might be an interesting challenge anyway... :)

Garth

Uh that was me on my battle bard, and not quite, close, but youre not there yet :D

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

latest DOH today - we're prepping for the tower and decided to have gaarth tank so we club together and get him booties.

... hmm ... Gaarth is only lvl 17 :)

Garth

[Quikster]

latest DOH today - we're prepping for the tower and decided to have gaarth tank so we club together and get him booties.

... hmm ... Gaarth is only lvl 17 :)

Garth

lol i guess I shoulda mentioned that. I figured you read the same threads I did on the boots. Not sure which one I picked that little tidbit of info up in, but I figured if I read it, you had already read and in game tested it :D So did you guys go?

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

lol i guess I shoulda mentioned that. I figured you read the same threads I did on the boots. Not sure which one I picked that little tidbit of info up in, but I figured if I read it, you had already read and in game tested it :D So did you guys go?

ya we went and after in-depth explaining to penn of complex kiting technique for the shadowfiends in part 2 - he died within record time - around 1 sec :) it was very inspiring.

Garth

[Thelmallen]

ya we went and after in-depth explaining to penn of complex kiting technique for the shadowfiends in part 2 - he died within record time - around 1 sec :) it was very inspiring.

Garth

I don't know if I would say I was 'inspired'. Entertained for certain, however! :D