YAY! Retroactive favor rewards! YAY! [Archive] - Dungeons & Dragons Online Forums

Tolero

09-01-2009, 10:05 AM

I only got them for the first toon I logged on. Subsequent toons got nothing.

I'll be adding an FAQ about it but I'll clarify it here:

There are two ways to earn Turbine Points using the favor system:
- Per character
- Per server based on highest favor ever completed on that server

So if you're someone with existing characters, it checks each server to verify what the "most" favor you ever earned was. Example: If you have one character with 900 favor, one with 1750 favor, and one with 200 favor, it counts you as completing 1750 on that server. It checks this based on when you log the character in (so it knows to send you a notification). So I advise logging in once with your highest favor guy on each server to get those points.

If you're brand new, you'll earn this "per server" favor as you go in addition to your per character favor. If you're not brand new, the "per server" favor counts for any existing characters you had.

Gol

09-01-2009, 10:10 AM

So if you're someone with existing characters, it checks each server to verify what the "most" favor you ever earned was. Example: If you have one character with 900 favor, one with 1750 favor, and one with 200 favor, it counts you as completing 1750 on that server. It checks this based on when you log the character in (so it knows to send you a notification). So I advise logging in once with your highest favor guy on each server to get those points.
Is there a chart somewhere that shows what points we get at what levels?

Missing_Minds

09-01-2009, 10:12 AM

I'll be adding an FAQ about it but I'll clarify it here:

There are two ways to earn Turbine Points using the favor system:
- Per character
- Per server based on highest favor ever completed on that server

So if you're someone with existing characters, it checks each server to verify what the "most" favor you ever earned was. Example: If you have one character with 900 favor, one with 1750 favor, and one with 200 favor, it counts you as completing 1750 on that server. It checks this based on when you log the character in (so it knows to send you a notification). So I advise logging in once with your highest favor guy on each server to get those points.

If you're brand new, you'll earn this "per server" favor as you go in addition to your per character favor. If you're not brand new, the "per server" favor counts for any existing characters you had.

Interesting... but I thought TP was per account, not per server.

Does this mean you could log into multi servers where your characters are at and get even more TP?

Tolero

09-01-2009, 10:15 AM

Interesting... but I thought TP was per account, not per server.

Does this mean you could log into multi servers where your characters are at and get even more TP?

Earning the Turbine Points through favor can happen on each server and they all end up in the same DDO Store account pool for you. The "max favor on server" is per server, and the "character favor" is per character per server, but it all goes to the same place :)

Lerincho

09-01-2009, 10:23 AM

Tolero stop trying to confuse us. :( so we earn favor from EACH character towards TPs?

Tolero

09-01-2009, 10:29 AM

Tolero stop trying to confuse us. :( so we earn favor from EACH character towards TPs?

Think of it the same way the in-game favor works which is you have the favor you get per house, but then also a "total favor" goal. Instead here you have the favor per character, and a "highest on server" goal.

Lerincho

09-01-2009, 10:31 AM

Think of it the same way the in-game favor works which is you have the favor you get per house, but then also a "total favor" goal. Instead here you have the favor per character, and a "total on server" goal.

so if someone has 3 favor capped characters, and 1 with 500, then the collective sum will eventually in a circular motion make it into the grand total of TPs?

Healemup

09-01-2009, 10:33 AM

wolfy42

09-01-2009, 10:33 AM

Wow thank you for clearing this up Telaro!!

I was curious about this in the beta as it seemed like a large amount of points new characters could get that vets could not. I have decent amounts of favor on all current servers (not the new one obviously) so I figured I was going to miss out on a ton of the "first time favor" rewards.

Now it seems I will get them all at once!!

That is great, thanks alot:)

wolfy42

09-01-2009, 10:37 AM

So what can I expect when I get to actually log in?

I have 7 characters with 2865 favor, 1 with 2191 (didn't quite make it to cap before the new mod, but how many level 9s get to 1750 huh?), 1 with 960ish, and 1 with 0 (favored soul place holder)?

Wow you got to 1750 favor at lvl 9? That is impressive!!

Anyway if all those characters are on 1 server then you will get bonus favor for the character with the highest total (if there are bonuses for reaching that high of a favor level).

If you log in with the 2191 favor character first you'll get all the first time bonus favor for that server up to 2191.....if you later log in with the 2865 favor character you will only gain more store points if there is a new level of total favor bonus between 2191 and 2865. Then you will get that bonus as well:)

If you just log in first with your highest favor character (wow 2865 is insane!!) you should get it all at once if I understand correctly.

Now if you have characters on other servers like me....you'll get the first time favor rewards when you log onto those servers for the first time as well:)

Nice!!

If it follows the same path as in Beta thats a good extra 200 favor fairly fast per server you can snag just running through the newbie quests/marketplace pretty fast.

Robi3.0

09-01-2009, 10:52 AM

Is there a chart somewhere that shows what points we get at what levels?

Here is what I have deduced.

favor.........TP reward
5................50
25...............25
50...............25
500..............50
1000.............100

My highest favor character has 1850, so I can only guess the next server reward is at 2000 judging by the pattern. Someone with a max favor toon will have to help finish the chart.

Tolero

09-01-2009, 10:53 AM

Wow you got to 1750 favor at lvl 9? That is impressive!!

Anyway if all those characters are on 1 server then you will get bonus favor for the character with the highest total (if there are bonuses for reaching that high of a favor level).

If you log in with the 2191 favor character first you'll get all the first time bonus favor for that server up to 2191.....if you later log in with the 2865 favor character you will only gain more store points if there is a new level of total favor bonus between 2191 and 2865. Then you will get that bonus as well:)

If you just log in first with your highest favor character (wow 2865 is insane!!) you should get it all at once if I understand correctly.

Now if you have characters on other servers like me....you'll get the first time favor rewards when you log onto those servers for the first time as well:)

Nice!!

If it follows the same path as in Beta thats a good extra 200 favor fairly fast per server you can snag just running through the newbie quests/marketplace pretty fast.

Yup! On the per server it's always looking for "what's the highest you've gotten" and if you already earned the favor it says "okay here's what you have so far" (you'll see multiple mails in your in-box as a result of it doing this retroactive rewarding). Then when you hit the next tiers for that server, you'll get more

Meanwhile, you're still earning your per-character rewards while you earn favor on that character. Sooooo.... if I have:

Argonnessen Server: Bob the Barbarian (5 favor), Francise the Favored Soul (1750 favor), Roger the Rogue (100 favor)

When I log in Bob it goes "Hmm I see you have 5 favor". Then I log in Francise and it says "Ooh I see you have 1750 favor, here ya go *grants all the mails it owes you*"...if I log in Roger with his 100 favor, it says "well I see you have 100, but you already got the 1750 tier"

As I start leveling Roger the Rogue he will still be earning his Turbine Points for being a character progress through the favor system. Let's say I get his favor up to 1750 too. I already earned the 1750 for Argonnessen. Now if I KEEP on earning favor on Roger, he'll earn the points from being a character, but he'll also keep advancing that "total of the server" for me for being the highest favor character at that point.

Let's say I then roll up on Khyber with two brand new characters: Chris the Cleric and Philip the Paladin

As I level Chris he earns favor as a character. Let's say I get him to 200 favor. As I go I'll get the points from him being a character, but when I reach the sever tiers i'll get a "good for you you have achieved X max favor on the Khyber server" mail with some more points. Let's say I go back and start earning favor on Philip because I don't like Chris. I'd get points for Philip as a character, but for the server points my highest is still Chris until Philip surpasses him.

Meanwhile my DDO Store account says "OM NOM NOM delicious Turbine Points from multiple sources!!"

wolfy42

09-01-2009, 10:55 AM

I didn't get retro favor on the beta server so I can't finish it but if the pattern holds it looks like you might get 200 more for 2k favor.

Even if that is all the favor you get thats an extra 250 favor per server for hitting 1k favor (pretty easy to hit 1k favor)...which certainly adds up.

You could basically snag favored soul for free pretty quick that way....and an extra character slot for that matter since you'll get the normal favor rewards per character as well.

Lerincho

09-01-2009, 10:59 AM

yeah that didn't help clear it up. still muddy water, just well stirred now.

Gol

09-01-2009, 10:59 AM

Here is what I have deduced.

favor.........TP reward
5................50
25...............25
50...............25
500..............50
1000.............100

My highest favor character has 1850, so I can only guess the next server reward is at 2000 judging by the pattern. Someone with a max favor toon will have to help finish the chart.
My highest favor is in the 1800s-1900s range, but I only got mail up to 500.

The character I logged on first had 800ish favor, though, which would explain it. I did log on my higher-favor character later, but did not receive more points.

croger1520033

09-01-2009, 11:02 AM

Yup! On the per server it's always looking for "what's the highest you've gotten" and if you already earned the favor it says "okay here's what you have so far" (you'll see multiple mails in your in-box as a result of it doing this retroactive rewarding). Then when you hit the next tiers for that server, you'll get more

Meanwhile, you're still earning your per-character rewards while you earn favor on that character. Sooooo.... if I have:

Argonnessen Server: Bob the Barbarian (5 favor), Francise the Favored Soul (1750 favor), Roger the Rogue (100 favor)

When I log in Bob it goes "Hmm I see you have 5 favor". Then I log in Francise and it says "Ooh I see you have 1750 favor, here ya go *grants all the mails it owes you*"...if I log in Roger with his 100 favor, it says "well I see you have 100, but you already got the 1750 tier"

As I start leveling Roger the Rogue he will still be earning his Turbine Points for being a character progress through the favor system. Let's say I get his favor up to 1750 too. I already earned the 1750 for Argonnessen. Now if I KEEP on earning favor on Roger, he'll earn the points from being a character, but he'll also keep advancing that "total of the server" for me for being the highest favor character at that point.

Let's say I then roll up on Khyber with two brand new characters: Chris the Cleric and Philip the Paladin

As I level Chris he earns favor as a character. Let's say I get him to 200 favor. As I go I'll get the points from him being a character, but when I reach the sever tiers i'll get a "good for you you have achieved X max favor on the Khyber server" mail with some more points. Let's say I go back and start earning favor on Philip because I don't like Chris. I'd get points for Philip as a character, but for the server points my highest is still Chris until Philip surpasses him.

Meanwhile my DDO Store account says "OM NOM NOM delicious Turbine Points from multiple sources!!"

Ok I have been here for more than 2 years, was in beta have a my ddo account and my regular one and I was subscribed as of July 31st. When I log into my account and go to my character I only have 100 turbine points, but i have emails in my inbox totaling 250, but I have no more tp. When I log in to the my ddo account I have 0 tp, so I am getting hosed for 3000 tp.

Missing_Minds

09-01-2009, 11:02 AM

yeah that didn't help clear it up. still muddy water, just well stirred now.

what don't you get? I'll attempt to answer it in engineer speak.

Robi3.0

09-01-2009, 11:07 AM

My highest favor is in the 1800s-1900s range, but I only got mail up to 500.

The character I logged on first had 800ish favor, though, which would explain it. I did log on my higher-favor character later, but did not receive more points.

I have received the bonuses described in my post on Thalanis up to the 1000 favor tier. I to log in two character as well the first had completed up the the 500 tier the second was my main which I logged in next and received credit for the 1000 favor tier.

I also logged on a character on Argo that had completed up to the 500 favor tier and was reward turbine points for that as well.

It seems that you may be experiencing a bug.

Gol

09-01-2009, 11:08 AM

I have received the bonuses described in my post on Thalanis up to the 1000 favor tier. I to log in two character as well the first had completed up the the 500 tier the second was my main which I logged in next and received credit for the 1000 favor tier.

I also logged on a character on Argo that had completed up to the 500 favor tier and was reward turbine points for that as well.

It seems that you may be experiencing a bug.
Yay. Logging back in to double check my mail now, just to verify.

I got the 1000-favor bonus on another character I had forgotten that I logged on as. You get the credits when you log on to the character with the favor to receive them. Aka, log on with your highest favor character first to get all your points right away.

Lerincho

09-01-2009, 11:10 AM

wolfy42

09-01-2009, 11:13 AM

her entire example didn't make sense. bottom line it for me, don't give me cute antidotes.

Retroactive favor rewards is based off of _____________?
A) your highest earned favor level
B) first character logged in
C) we are not entirely sure

Favor rewards earned starting today as based off of _________?
A) each character
B) character with the highest level of earned favor
C) we really are not entirely sure

REtroactive favor rewards are bassed on your highest favor earned PER SERVER.

Favor rewards earned starting today are based off EACH CHARACTER and Highest New FAVOR LEVEL GAINED PER SERVER.

To simplify more.....you gain favor right now based on the highest favor character you have on each server. This brings you up to date with total favor rewards for that server and in the future you will continue to gain new favor rewards for reaching the next teir of highest favor on that server.

You will also gain individual favor rewards per character in the future. You do not recieve retroactive favor though as well....that would be a freaking ton of favor.

Tolero

09-01-2009, 11:15 AM

her entire example didn't make sense. bottom line it for me, don't give me cute antidotes.

Retroactive favor rewards is based off of _____________?
A) your highest earned favor level
B) first character logged in
C) we are not entirely sure

Favor rewards earned starting today as based off of _________?
A) each character
B) character with the highest level of earned favor
C) we really are not entirely sure

Let's try this. There are two ways to earn turbine points with favor:

You get favor based on the highest favor you ever completed on a server. This can be earned per server. This applies retroactively to the highest you earned on a server prior to DDO Unlimited

You also get favor based on each individual character. This can be earned per character. This does not apply retroactively to characters who earned favor prior to DDO Unlimited.

So if you already have Stormreach characters, they won't get credit for the favor they earned on individual characters, but you will get credit for having earned the highest favor on a server.

Clement

09-01-2009, 11:16 AM

her Entire Example Didn't Make Sense. Bottom Line It For Me, Don't Give Me Cute Antidotes.

Retroactive Favor Rewards Is Based Off Of _____________?
A) Your Highest Earned Favor Level
B) First Character Logged In
C) We Are Not Entirely Sure

Favor Rewards Earned Starting Today As Based Off Of _________?
A) Each Character
B) Character With The Highest Level Of Earned Favor
C) We Really Are Not Entirely Sure

A, per server
A

Robi3.0

09-01-2009, 11:19 AM

her entire example didn't make sense. bottom line it for me, don't give me cute antidotes.

Retroactive favor rewards is based off of _____________?
A) your highest earned favor level
B) first character logged in
C) we are not entirely sure

Favor rewards earned starting today as based off of _________?
A) each character
B) character with the highest level of earned favor
C) we really are not entirely sure

To put it more simply, As a player there are to ways to earn turbine point through the favor system

options A: Max favor pre-server. These tp can be earned by reaching the tiers described here (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=197647). These are reward upon reaching the highest favor on any toon per account. They can only be received once per server, but can be gotten once on every server per account.

option B: every character receives tp for each favor point they get. I believe it is 10 turbine point for every 100 favor a character has. I could be wrong though.

Riorik

09-01-2009, 11:21 AM

Wow you got to 1750 favor at lvl 9? That is impressive!!

I wouldn't have any way to know if he did it this way...but...one of the more likely ways to hit 1750 at merely level 9 is if you weren't getting a lot of experience points for those quests.

There's a number of scenario's that could explain this. The more important piece is when was the character begun. (A three year old character only at level 9 but >1750 was probably a bank character and/or logged into a 2nd account while the primary ran the quest/raid)

Of course, the above scenario/explanation doesn't cover having 5 or 6 absolutely favored capped characters. That takes some serious time and effort.

Missing_Minds

09-01-2009, 11:27 AM

her entire example didn't make sense. bottom line it for me, don't give me cute antidotes.

Retroactive favor rewards is based off of _____________?
A) your highest earned favor level
B) first character logged in
C) we are not entirely sure

Favor rewards earned starting today as based off of _________?
A) each character
B) character with the highest level of earned favor
C) we really are not entirely sure

1. A per server, additive to your turbine point account total.
such that if you had characters on 3 servers, each server max favor character was 1750 favor, AND you log into each server, your account at the end of logging into each server would have the TP for 3 1750 characters. So far as the retroactive favor goes.
In my case I've got 1750 on ghalanda and 2k+ on Thel. So to max out my retro reward TP, I'm going to log onto both ghall and thel. To do so safely, I'll be logging into those characters directly first.

2. A.

Lerincho

09-01-2009, 11:34 AM

To put it more simply, As a player there are to ways to earn turbine point through the favor system

options A: Max favor pre-server. These tp can be earned by reaching the tiers described here (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=197647). These are reward upon reaching the highest favor on any toon per account. They can only be received once per server, but can be gotten once on every server per account.

option B: every character receives tp for each favor point they get. I believe it is 10 turbine point for every 100 favor a character has. I could be wrong though.

you realize your answer contradicts 3 other people's answer and is the basis for my asking for the simplest answer in the first place. So you say retro is based on highest, but rewards is based on highest, while other state retro based on highest and reward is based on each character. do you see now why i have been saying it is all talking in circles instead of a clear cut answer?

not even going to address the matter in which Tolero did not answer simply A B or C to both questions which would have ended a lot of confusion for others.

smatt

09-01-2009, 11:40 AM

I'm reading the retro-active bonus for favor is based on your highest CURRENT favor toon. in other wors your retro-active favor poitns are onyl awarded based on the favor for 1 toon, your highest favor toon, that is.... all the othre toons are meaningless in this regard. BUT future point awards for favor will be awarded for each and every toon as they cross the threshold for each award.

Pretty simple I think..... It has nothing to do with what toon you login first.

Robi3.0

09-01-2009, 11:47 AM

you realize your answer contradicts 3 other people's answer and is the basis for my asking for the simplest answer in the first place. So you say retro is based on highest, but rewards is based on highest, while other state retro based on highest and reward is based on each character. do you see now why i have been saying it is all talking in circles instead of a clear cut answer?

not even going to address the matter in which Tolero did not answer simply A B or C to both questions which would have ended a lot of confusion for others.

It is a confusing system no doubt. I did my best to explain it. My advice is to log in grind some favor and take note of the in game mails you receive. Maybe seeing the system in action well help explain how it works better then anyone can.

WolfSpirit

09-01-2009, 11:55 AM

If you took all the TP that Americans use in one year, it would strech from the Earth to the Sun and back, then BACK TO THE SUN AGAIN!

And Thats all my TP information at this time.

As for the rest, I'm stuck at work so I just don't know...
:(

smatt

09-01-2009, 11:56 AM

It is a confusing system no doubt. I did my best to explain it. My advice is to log in grind some favor and take note of the in game mails you receive. Maybe seeing the system in action well help explain how it works better then anyone can.

Naw, it's a simple system....

Retro-active point award = Highest favor toon on a per server basis, all other toons favor are meaningless.

Future point awards for favor = For each and every toon you aquire favor on and at easch and every favor threashold you cross, you will receive the specified point award.

Robi3.0

09-01-2009, 12:01 PM

Naw, it's a simple system....

Retro-active point award = Highest favor toon on a per server basis, all other toons favor are meaningless.

Future point awards for favor = For each and every toon you aquire favor on and at easch and every favor threashold you cross, you will receive the specified point award.

I got it right off the bat, but I have tried to explain it here on the forum and to one person over the phone. People seem to still be confuse even the over the phone guy. Maybe I suck at explaining things. IDK.

croger1520033

09-01-2009, 12:13 PM

Let's try this. There are two ways to earn turbine points with favor:

You get favor based on the highest favor you ever completed on a server. This can be earned per server. This applies retroactively to the highest you earned on a server prior to DDO Unlimited

You also get favor based on each individual character. This can be earned per character. This does not apply retroactively to characters who earned favor prior to DDO Unlimited.

So if you already have Stormreach characters, they won't get credit for the favor they earned on individual characters, but you will get credit for having earned the highest favor on a server.

Tolero come on these 250 points problems answers pale in comparison to answering the guy who has 100 points as opposed to his 3000 he should have

Healemup

09-01-2009, 12:46 PM

I wouldn't have any way to know if he did it this way...but...one of the more likely ways to hit 1750 at merely level 9 is if you weren't getting a lot of experience points for those quests.

There's a number of scenario's that could explain this. The more important piece is when was the character begun. (A three year old character only at level 9 but >1750 was probably a bank character and/or logged into a 2nd account while the primary ran the quest/raid)

Of course, the above scenario/explanation doesn't cover having 5 or 6 absolutely favored capped characters. That takes some serious time and effort.

You just run a bunch of quest with people well over your level and it really isn't that hard. ;)

Also, it does help when you can provide an opener for any quest. You just have to find one other person willing to run with you.

The best is when you find someone to run elite for every quest chain the first time. That is a huge time saver.

Sharzade

09-01-2009, 12:55 PM

On my primary account, I logged in on a character with very mini favour first, thinking that character needs a new hair colour. Hopefully I didn't lose favour from my characters with over 2000 favour for doing that.

So far I haven't got all the store coins I should for being a non-stop subscriber for 3+ yrs and for going to Lamannia. I got 1900 total so far. My second account which is 3+ yrs old and has been active from before July 31 has 1600 favour. I'm guessing that store coin codes are coming in the mail; am I right?

Thanx in advance, sorry if this has been covered; I'm being hasty, not reading the threads. :p Gotta get the daughter to her piano lesson!

Sharz
;)
:D
:)

jydog100

09-01-2009, 01:33 PM

had a toon with 2500 favor prior to the new beta. logged on to create a favored soul and it tells me i need to purchase the class. did i miss something? character now has 2509 favor. what do i need to do?

soupertc

09-01-2009, 01:35 PM

Sharzade

09-01-2009, 01:42 PM

kk, I'm up to 2100 on my primary acct so the favour points are working okay, and the DDO cast says the 999 pts are still coming, so I'm okay methinks.

Cheers till after daughter's piano lesson! :cool:

Sharz
;)
:D
:)

Missing_Minds

09-01-2009, 02:12 PM

Tolero

09-01-2009, 02:14 PM

Re: favored soul - make sure you talk to Nyx in the harbor too (works just like when you unlock Drow)

Missing_Minds

09-01-2009, 02:18 PM

Re: favored soul - make sure you talk to Nyx in the harbor too (works just like when you unlock Drow)

Do we get mail about it like we did with drow that tells us what to do? If not, that should be added in.

Healemup

09-01-2009, 02:18 PM

a headache.....

So are you done 'breaking', so I can get in there and force you into favor runs? Muhahaha.

soupertc

09-01-2009, 04:00 PM

So are you done 'breaking', so I can get in there and force you into favor runs? Muhahaha.

like you forced me do Favor Runs before........been putting stuff in you morning coffee to give you these delusions?

Impaqt

09-01-2009, 04:44 PM

Interesting.. Logged into my highest favor character to unlock my FvS.

Did not get any mails.

But now I have 350 extra Turbine points. (2500 and change on that guy)

binnsr

09-01-2009, 08:47 PM

So I have a character on Sarlona with 2027 favor and 3 or 4 on Thelanis with >1750 favor (but none with over 2000). When I logged into the one on Thelanis with the most favor (1956), I was rewarded with a bucket full of mails congratulation me on meeting various favor plateaus.
When I logged in the character on Sarlona, I did not receive any such mails. I thought, since he's a transfer orphan, that perhaps the system needed a jog .. so I went and talked to Nyx - no email, he just bid me a good day. Then I went and hit up two of the new Free Agent quests on hard (nice change imo) for another 12 favor (up to 2039 now) and still have not received my mail.

I have 2600 points right now:
1500 -- Founder
+250 -- Played the beta
+250 -- Used the store in beta
+250 -- Favor on Thelanis (and 5 emails to go with it up to the 1000 favor theshhold)
-------
2250
+450 -- Favor on Sarlona (with no emails to prove it)
-------
2700

Either I have too much, or I have too little. I'm confused...

USAvatar

09-02-2009, 08:03 AM

Hi, following the favor rules that Tolero described, I went onto a new server that I had never used before, started a new character, and, when I reached 5 favor, I received the in-game message and mail stating that I had received 50 turbine points for reaching 5 favor for the first time on that server; however, I never actually received said points in my account. I continued gaining favor and, at 25 favor, did gain the 25 turbine points normally for that tier. However, I can't figure out why I never actually gained the first 50 points for reaching the 5 favor tier. Is this just a bug? Has anyone else experienced this?