light repeater spellsinger

[namless]

*enhancements need work i think
*looking for a healing/buffing bard that usese a light repeater

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rapidsong
Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
(2 Ranger \ 18 Bard)
Hit Points: 184
Spell Points: 918
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 16
Will: 10

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 10 10 10
Dexterity 14 15 15
Constitution 15 15 15
Intelligence 8 8 8
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 18 23 25

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 6 20 20
Bluff 4 7 7
Concentration 6 25 29
Diplomacy 8 30 30
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 8 30 30
Heal -1 -1 -1
Hide 2 2 2
Intimidate 4 7 7
Jump 0 0 0
Listen -1 -1 -1
Move Silently 2 2 2
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform 8 30 30
Repair -1 -1 -1
Search -1 -1 -1
Spot -1 -1 -1
Swim 0 0 0
Tumble n/a n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 8 30 32

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Human Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Light Crossbow


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
Enhancement: Bard Concentration II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Reload


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery IV

[Lewcipher]

Thought about dropping dex 2 and raising con? A pure bard with a 12 base con can be hard to survive with at lvl 16+

[namless]

ya my bad ha thought i needed 17 dex for twf but thats for gtwf isnt it? will fix

[TechNoFear]

I would get Extend earlier and swap Prec for Rapid Reload.

[Lewcipher]

If you're going for GTWF you can drop it to 15 (+2 dex tome for 17) then put two points into con. Should be okay there.

Edit, just saw the +1 dex tome used at lvl 1, so it would take you a +3 dex tome. Sorry about that.

Do you plan on being backline melee or more of a CC bard?

[namless]

I would get Extend earlier .
cant due to other feats that are needed


swap Prec for Rapid Reload.
i grabbed rapid reload at lvl 9 and precision at 15

[namless]

If you're going for GTWF....
Do you plan on being backline melee or more of a CC bard?
okay not going for gtwf just got my feat reqs mixed up im going for light repeater and more of a healing/buff / shoot from afar

[Lewcipher]

okay not going for gtwf just got my feat reqs mixed up im going for light repeater and more of a healing/buff / shoot from afar

Ah okay. If you're going for repeater, why TWF? I'm just trying to reason it out and it's late :D

Thought about going 2 rogue instead of ranger? 2 Ranger isn't a whole lot (if you stick with Ranger I would swap the FE feat out at later levels for Evil Outsider)

[TechNoFear]

cant due to other feats that are needed

Which are required?

Emp Healing won't be needed/very useful at lvl 1 (on CLW with your few SP). Better off getting rptr at 1 and using wands.

Repeater is best at low lvls when it is a machine gun.

Rptrs drop off rapidly until lvl 12'ish when they become ineffective, except to spam effects (ie Wound, Para, Disrupt etc) or slowly DPS down mobs in your CC.

You will do a lot of switching between rptr and two casting sticks (Sup Pot 6 etc)


i grabbed rapid reload at lvl 9 and precision at 15

Sorry missed RR.

I have a Drow Spellsinger at cap using rptrs (also a cleric 16). I very rarely pull a rptr in the Shroud however.

Least rptrs have gotten cheaper.

[Lewcipher]

Which are required?

Emp Healing won't be needed/very useful at lvl 1 (on CLW with your few SP). Better off getting rptr at 1 and using wands.

Repeater is best at low lvls when it is a machine gun.

Rptrs drop off rapidly until lvl 12'ish when they become ineffective, except to spam effects (ie Wound, Para, Disrupt etc) or slowly DPS down mobs in your CC.

You will do a lot of switching between rptr and two casting sticks (Sup Pot 6 etc)



Sorry missed RR.

I have a Drow Spellsinger at cap using rptrs (also a cleric 16). I very rarely pull a rptr in the Shroud however.

Least rptrs have gotten cheaper.

I don't think you can take Repeater at level 1 with a 0 BAB. The two I tried (to the best of my memory) didn't have that feat listed until they hit BAB 1.

[namless]

Thought about going 2 rogue instead of ranger?

no i didnt but the ranger lvls are for fe and also some ranged feats ex. rapid shot, bow str, and also twf

(if you stick with Ranger I would swap the FE feat out at later levels for Evil Outsider)

planned on it but good advice

also I believe you where right dont think you can take exotic prof with bab of 0

also the reason for emp healing is cause it fits at that lvl and i doubt i will use it much till later on but its still nice to take early on

as for the feats the best switch around i could see is at lvl 1 take rapid reload and point blank shot take extend at 9 and emp healing at 12 (or switch extend / emp around)

** also thinking possibly going with a lvl of sorc somewhere but not sure if that would hurt or help the build i know it = out to somewhere around 200+sp gained -4 skil pnts( not a big deal) and -2 hp (also not big deal) big downer is -1 to bab
** aslo by dropping my dex from 16-14 and bumping con from 12 to 15 or whatever it worked out to i gain 20 hp but what am i losing atk wise cause i believe ranged weapons need high dex right?
** any ideas guys?

[78mackson]

drop the 2 lvl of ranger.. bow strenght doesnt work on repeaters. +2charisma and spell pen n stuff will do more for your build...

But the best thing would ofc be just drop the repeater all togheter... they were hardly cool in mod1 and they are certainly not cool now. WoP repeater builds could be kinda cool in mod8 thou, I better add.. but soon they are all gone Pete Tong...

[Fetchi]

I agree with 78mackson on dropping the 2 lvls of Ranger. This will leave you stuck later on if you decide to change anything, and doesn't really contribute to the effectiveness of the build. Here is what I would suggest:

Level 20 Chaotic Good Elf (I like elves for my bards for personal choice, obviously Human is better for extra feat and versatility, or drow for max CHA, or even halfling because they are the master race =P)
(20 Bard)

Hit Points: 180
Spell Points: 1071

BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 8
Reflex: 16
Will: 12

Strength 10 +2 Tome +6 Item 18
Dexterity 14 +2 Tome +2 Enhancement +6 Item 24
Constitution 12 +2 Tome +6 Item 20
Intelligence 10 +2 Tome 12
Wisdom 10 +2 Tome +6 Item 18
Charisma 18 +2 Tome +5 Level +3 Enhancement +6 Item +2 Capstone 36

Most would min/max by dumping INT, WIS, and maybe STR for more CON, DEX, or CHA; but I just went for more rounded stats. I included +2 Tomes only because by level 20 I'm sure these can be easily acquired.

Balance 27
Diplomacy 32
Haggle 32
Jump 22
Perform 32
Use Magic Device 34

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: Rapid Reload
Bard Concentration I
Bard Song Magic I
Bard Energy of the Music I

Level 2 (Bard)
Bard Inspired Damage I
Bard Charisma I

Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Light Crossbow
Bard Inspired Attack I
Elven Dexterity I
Bard Lyric of Song I

Level 4 (Bard)
Bard Concentration II
Bard Song Magic II

Level 5 (Bard)
Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
Bard Energy of the Music II

Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I

Level 7 (Bard)
Bard Inspired Damage II
Bard Charisma II

Level 8 (Bard)
Bard Inspired Attack II

Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: Extend Spell
Elven Dexterity II

Level 10 (Bard)
Bard Song Magic III

Level 11 (Bard)
Bard Song Magic IV

Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Bard Inspired Damage III
Bard Lyric of Song II

Level 13 (Bard)

Level 14 (Bard)
Bard Inspired Attack III

Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: Quicken Spell
Bard Charisma III

Level 16 (Bard)
Bard Energy of the Music III

Level 17 (Bard)
Bard Lyric of Song III
Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II

Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: Mental Toughness
Bard Energy of the Music IV

Level 19 (Bard)
Bard Lyric of Incredible Song III

Level 20 (Bard)
Bard Lingering Song I
Bard Musical Prodigy
Bard Improved Spell Penetration I


Change what you want to fit your play style. I tend to backup my cleric a lot so I went with Quicken (dropped Concentration) and Mental Toughness for more SPs. But you will definitely need:

Rapid Reload
Exotic Weapon Prof: Repeater
Improved Crit: Ranged

Also keep in mind that to be most effective you will need repeaters that help your melee take mobs down faster rather than trying to dps, such as...

Cursespewing
Wounding of Puncturing
Paralyzing
Weakening of Enfeebling
Destruction
Banishing
Disrupting
Transmuting of Pure Good

just my 2cp :)

[namless]

okay well is 20 bard really best to go or is there any other mix to throw in there that would be worth it?

[Fetchi]

Don't have very good advice on that question - but I'd probably lean toward 2 levels of rogue. I'd try to get my reflex high enough for evasion. Maybe a few levels of fighter for some extra feats?