Where did I go wrong?? Feat help Plz.

[Jalpa7]

Ok so my wonderful idea was to build a dwarven 4 Fighter/2 Monk/ X Cleric with whirlwind attack. Yes, yes I know everyone says WW is not worth it but I wanted to see for myself just once.


Levle 1 Fighter: CLEAVE/POWER ATTACK
Level 2 Fighter: DODGE
Levle 3 Fighter: MOBILITY
Levle 4 Fighter: GREAT CLEAVE
Levle 5 Monk: SPRING ATTACK
Levle 6 Monk: COMBAT EXPERTISE/WHIRLWIND ATTACK

Everything was fine up to level 5. Spring attack was not a feat option, so I took CE instead. My question is..with my current blueprint will I be able to get WW and Spring attack at levle 6? If not where did I mess up and if I did mess up how do I get back on track.

I am currently levle 5. Dex is 14 if it matters. Int is also 14.

[Cashiry]

The only thing that may cause you not to take WW is.

Spring Attack is required before taking WW.... not sure if you can take both feets during the same lvl up period.

[Kalanth]

Well, the requirements for Spring Attack are:

Dexterity 13, Base Attack Bonus +4, Dodge, Mobility

Do you meet all these requirements? I see Dex 14, but what is you BAB at level 5?

[Vivanto]

Do you meet all these requirements? I see Dex 14, but what is you BAB at level 5?

4.

fighter levels 1-4 -> full bab, monk 1 - 0 bab, total 4 bab, will be 5 at level 6 where he plans to take it.

Only question being taking the simultaneous prereq + feat, tough I guess it should work fine.

[Taelan]

You only have a BAB of 5 (BAB +4 from your four levels of fighter and BAB +0 from your one level of monk) as was pointed out by Vivanto. Monk doesn't get a +1 BAB until level 2. When you level to 6, you will meet the prerequisites for Spring Attack and subsequently Whirlwind Attack.

To answer your second question, no, you will not have any problems taking both Spring Attack and Whirlwind Attack during the same level. After all, you did it on your first level when you took Power Attack and then Cleave.

So rest easy, continue the level climb, and enjoy your whirling cleric. The wonderful thing about DDO (IMHO) is the sheer customability (a real word? hmm? :) ) of the character creation system. And again, ENJOY!

[baddax]

You Should be ok.
Normaly taking feats like PA and Cleave in the same level up work out ok as long as you select the prereq first. However i personally have not tried this particular combo so this is a "best guess".

[Visty]

the thing is, he tried to take it at lvl5 and afaik spring attack isnt a monk feat, thus he cant take it at monk1

[Kalanth]

the thing is, he tried to take it at lvl5 and afaik spring attack isnt a monk feat, thus he cant take it at monk1

This is a solid point. I am not up on monks much as I have never played one (PnP or DDO).

[bobbryan2]

Yeah... if you wanted to do this. You really should have taken the 2 monk levels first, followed by 4 fighters.

Monk 1 : dodge, mobility
monk 2 : CE

While dodge and mobility are monk feats, spring attack isn't, to the best of my knowledge. You might just have to wait till lvl 9.

[Jalpa7]

Assuming everything works as planned and I have whirlwind attack. Then at 9 I take stunning blow. Can I combine the useage of those two feats somehow and stun multiple enemies?

Part 2 of that question...if the answer is no (which I feel it will be no). If I use whirlwind and a paralyzer do I have a chance to paralyze multiple mobs??

[LAWPRE]

In PnP, DMs can overrule or change the "regular" DnD. As a result, I can stunning fist AND smite in certain games. However, the AI in DDO is rigid. So, U cannot do both at the same time. However, if U R fast enough on the keyboard, U can do virtually the same thing. It is just a matter of setting up UR hotkeys 2 make those skills, abilities to maximize this. Which is why my bow and favorite weapon R right next 2 each other. Bow 4 Sneak Attack and favorite weapon IF they R still up. With this in mind, as long as Paralyze is a passive or triggered ability, U S/B able 2 use it w/X# mobs. However, if U must activate the ability, the answer W/B no.

BTW, I C nothing wrong (except perhaps the order as I am not sure if ANY eligible feats R displayed or not) with the build.