World restarts at 7:00 am Sunday morning

[SIG]

We will be performing world restarts at 7:00 am. Estimated downtime should be less than 1 hour.

[ariel7]

We will be performing world restarts at 7:00 am to fix a problem across all worlds.

3:40 am Sunday morning (my time) and you guys are tcb. I like it.

[Oxvon]

how long will they be down?

[Erekose]

how long will they be down?

Yes tell us

[deathtouch]

7am what time zone?

[Oxvon]

7am what time zone?

est

[BlackRage]

We will be performing world restarts at 7:00 am to fix a problem across all worlds.

Anyone but you and I would be all over this. Competence has its priveledges :cool:

[Erekose]

We will be performing world restarts at 7:00 am. Estimated downtime should be less than 1 hour.

thanks for the advanced notification, good job

[seldarin]

Sorry been having issues for the last 3 hours on Khyber, when was it proposed that it would only be down for an hour? Here in aus i find it hard to equate what time is what, ya know, est v cst v any other st, so what time kinda like is that in australia time? Is that now, or in the near future or some other time? Just trying to figure out what time is what being its kinda been going on for a good couple of hours and now we are told it might be down for another hour?

[altagar]

Think it was 7 AM Eastern (with a slight delay)

[vyvy3369]

Sorry been having issues for the last 3 hours on Khyber, when was it proposed that it would only be down for an hour? Here in aus i find it hard to equate what time is what, ya know, est v cst v any other st, so what time kinda like is that in australia time? Is that now, or in the near future or some other time? Just trying to figure out what time is what being its kinda been going on for a good couple of hours and now we are told it might be down for another hour?
The servers are down currently, and I'm assuming the minutes don't change between time zones, so add ~ 40 minutes to whatever time it is now.

[seldarin]

The servers are down currently, and I'm assuming the minutes don't change between time zones, so add ~ 40 minutes to whatever time it is now.

Thanks for that, the screen is the same as it was 3 hours ago so i couldnt distinguish any noticeable difference between the servers being up or down. If the servers were down i wouldve assumed that there would be red x next to the worlds or connecting page, but its the same as if you were logging in normally. That was why i was asking if the time proposed for restarting had passed, was coming up, or if the 1 hour estimate was totally out of whack, just like release dates for things :)

Edit: Just tried logging in again and now have red crosses, guess the restart was delayed and that the 1 hour estimate is from now thereabouts so all things being equal should be back up by wednesday.

[ironmaiden-br]

the servers still down....

[Raveneia]

The servers are down currently, and I'm assuming the minutes don't change between time zones, so add ~ 40 minutes to whatever time it is now.

So that's like 10-11pm Australian time tonight? or tomorrow morning?

its never down for Americans in peak time but always for Aussies when we want to play :(

[rivnen]

WHY are the servers down? Eh?

[Targonis]

So that's like 10-11pm Australian time tonight? or tomorrow morning?

its never down for Americans in peak time but always for Aussies when we want to play :(

7am on a Sunday isn't great for people who want to veg in front of their computers waiting for mod 9.

[vyvy3369]

So that's like 10-11pm Australian time tonight? or tomorrow morning?

its never down for Americans in peak time but always for Aussies when we want to play :(
It's currently 7:41 AM, Sunday August 2nd EST (-5:00 GMT), so yeah, that sounds right if Australia is +10:00 or +11:00 GMT.

[Hakushi]

WHY are the servers down? Eh?

There was issues like people unable to log in, ah/mail and some other stuff not working and some were stuck in loading screens. They decided to reboot the servers before they crashed.

[rivnen]

There was issues like people unable to log in, ah/mail and some other stuff not working and some were stuck in loading screens. They decided to reboot the servers before they crashed.

Your kidding right? This kind of stuff is always happening. The game randomly decides to take 5 minutes for you to sell something, people occasionally have a issue logging in, mail refuses to let you take stuff out, bank's wont open.

This isn't something that happens occasionally its always happening,

[VonBek]

The launcher feels neglected :(

"Server Restarts Saturday July 25 last updated 3:59 PM Eastern (-4 GMT)
Jul 25, 2009 18:55 EST UPDATE: All servers are now available. Thank you for your patience and we'll see you in game!"

[Arkat]

Why do you guys keep saying EST???

That's one of my pet peeves. It's after March but before November and you guys keep saying "EST."

Get it right!

[Targonis]

Why do you guys keep saying EST???

That's one of my pet peeves. It's after March but before November and you guys keep saying "EST."

Get it right!

Because the idea of changing the clocks for Daylight Saving Time is repulsive to most people. If there were any real energy savings from it, why not just leave it that way for the entire year, and eliminate the headaches that come from setting the clocks forward and back?

[enteriiblackwater]

it's now over an hour update please

Ent

[Raegoul]

Hi Welcome

[SIG]

We are waiting on remote hands at our datacenter to respond. New uptime of 9:00am.

[cinoaz]

Servers are down, for a hotfix, on the day that was "suppose" to be the pre-day launch for the new DDO Unlimited, which, is delayed yet another month.

Why, for some reason, do I get an image in my head of a monkey and a football ???

[BlackRage]

We are waiting on remote hands at our datacenter to respond. New uptime of 9:00am.

Thanks for the update SIG. :cool:

[Cairo]

..

[sylvester]

nice to get the time online update

[Enochroot]

Ahhahahahahahahhahahah

You have the worst data center operations I've ever heard of. You're just rebooting servers and can't get it done in less than 2 hours? Your remote hands aren't even RESPONDING? You don't have remote power strips so you can repower the servers YOURSELVES?!??

There is no excuse for that.


Hire some real talent.

[BlackRage]

Why do you guys keep saying EST???

That's one of my pet peeves. It's after March but before November and you guys keep saying "EST."

Get it right!

So what do we say for those places that do not have daylight time? Do you get made at them too? :rolleyes:

How about those on double daylight? Would you like to invent a specific term for them in order to not confuse you?

Finally you do realize that even for those using Daylight Time the start and stop periods are different?

[Erekose]

Its been over 1 hour. Forgot to feed the Hampsters?

[Cairo]

Ahhahahahahahahhahahah

You have the worst data center operations I've ever heard of. You're just rebooting servers and can't get it done in less than 2 hours? Your remote hands aren't even RESPONDING? You don't have remote power strips so you can repower the servers YOURSELVES?!??

There is no excuse for that.


Hire some real talent.


actually, emergency server restarts on a Sunday morning usually take a good hour or 2 hours, because there's very few, if any, people in the building who are qualified to screw around with video game servers at that hour.


As angry as I am with Turbine, dont forget, this is an emergency unscheduled reboot, and it's more in depth than just hitting "Off"...."On"... "drink coffee" :)

[ironmaiden-br]

Turbine
Always making everything to make their customers happy :(

[Moorganna]

Man, even a Commodore 64 restarts with the flick of a switch...

[Raegoul]

I assume there is a maintenance tomorrow as well or one will be announced.

If there is one thing i cannot stand, it is a stack. I think it is time to take a break and wait for the stack of shhiitt to be reduced in height.

You know what is rather funny is that... nevermind there is no point communicating.

[Enochroot]

actually, emergency server restarts on a Sunday morning usually take a good hour or 2 hours, because there's very few, if any, people in the building who are qualified to screw around with video game servers at that hour.


As angry as I am with Turbine, dont forget, this is an emergency unscheduled reboot, and it's more in depth than just hitting "Off"...."On"... "drink coffee" :)

What on earth are you talking about - have you actually worked in operations?


"People qualified to screw around with VIDEO GAME SERVERS?" - what - you think these servers are powering the US power grid or something? *** are you talking about. You think "remote hands" is referring to highly trained personnel? Have you ever used remote hands? You tell them a rack number and a server (hopefully it's labelled correctly) - and half the time they call you back asking you where the power switch is - and how they use that to turn the server off/on.

And they're waiting on them to RESPOND. Hilarious. Real great SLA's they're running there.


And, as I indicated - there should be NO reason they would need remote hands for a reboot - even in a complex reboot scenario - the boxes should be remotely administerable in almost any circumstance - aside from catastrophic data centre failure.

[Raveneia]

That's now 12-2am my time as if I'm staying up that late and waiting when probably be told its going to be another hour again *yawns*

[cinoaz]

actually, emergency server restarts on a Sunday morning usually take a good hour or 2 hours, because there's very few, if any, people in the building who are qualified to screw around with video game servers at that hour.

Do you think any of what you said would ever impact, uhm, say, LOTRO or WoW?

I'm tired of the "Red Headed Stepchild" treatment that DDO is to Turbine, it's never ending.

Sure, people can say that can't foresee all these issues...blah, blah, blah.....

I still believe this would never occur to LOTRO, absolutely never.

[phorking]

just thought a time it would be done would have been nice

[Erekose]

What on earth are you talking about - have you actually worked in operations?


"People qualified to screw around with VIDEO GAME SERVERS?" - what - you think these servers are powering the US power grid or something? *** are you talking about. You think "remote hands" is referring to highly trained personnel? Have you ever used remote hands? You tell them a rack number and a server (hopefully it's labelled correctly) - and half the time they call you back asking you where the power switch is - and how they use that to turn the server off/on.

And they're waiting on them to RESPOND. Hilarious. Real great SLA's they're running there.


And, as I indicated - there should be NO reason they would need remote hands for a reboot - even in a complex reboot scenario - the boxes should be remotely administerable in almost any circumstance - aside from catastrophic data centre failure.

/what he said

[Cairo]

What on earth are you talking about - have you actually worked in operations?


"People qualified to screw around with VIDEO GAME SERVERS?" - what - you think these servers are powering the US power grid or something? *** are you talking about. You think "remote hands" is referring to highly trained personnel? Have you ever used remote hands? You tell them a rack number and a server (hopefully it's labelled correctly) - and half the time they call you back asking you where the power switch is - and how they use that to turn the server off/on.

And they're waiting on them to RESPOND. Hilarious. Real great SLA's they're running there.


And, as I indicated - there should be NO reason they would need remote hands for a reboot - even in a complex reboot scenario - the boxes should be remotely administerable in almost any circumstance - aside from catastrophic data centre failure.

Right, but think about it - in a business, who gets shafted working the early morning Sunday shift? The new guys that you dont actually trust with operating the microwave unsupervised :P

Combine that with Turbine, so the odds that the rack number and server are labelled incorrectly go up exponentially, and then you gotta wait for the hands to figure out how to operate a phone to call you back asking where the power switch is, THEN they turn it on, except that they don't, they turn something else off, because, you know, they're the bottom of the employee barrel. :P

[Cairo]

Do you think any of what you said would ever impact, uhm, say, LOTRO or WoW?

I'm tired of the "Red Headed Stepchild" treatment that DDO is to Turbine, it's never ending.

Sure, people can say that can't foresee all these issues...blah, blah, blah.....

I still believe this would never occur to LOTRO, absolutely never.

You do have a good point here. I agree that this wouldnt happen to LOTRO

[Enochroot]

Right, but think about it - in a business, who gets shafted working the early morning Sunday shift? The new guys that you dont actually trust with operating the microwave unsupervised :P

Combine that with Turbine, so the odds that the rack number and server are labelled incorrectly go up exponentially, and then you gotta wait for the hands to figure out how to operate a phone to call you back asking where the power switch is, THEN they turn it on, except that they don't, they turn something else off, because, you know, they're the bottom of the employee barrel. :P


Generally on an operations team every team member gets to work early morning sunday, on a rotating shift. It's the *joy* of working in operations.


And if their junior members can't figure out how to orchestrate a reboot - they shouldn't have initiated a reboot.

[Divinius_d'Phiarlan]

I hope they sell kleenex in the new DDO store so I can send boxes to half the people on this thread.

[uhgungawa]

just thought a time it would be done would have been nice

WOW August of 06 and this is your first post. Man you've been holding back LOL :)

[Cairo]

I'm just trying to inject some levity here :P

[ShiningEagle]

I hope they sell kleenex in the new DDO store so I can send boxes to half the people on this thread.

Or perhaps some cheese to go with the incredible amount of wine...

[mrirritation]

Glad to see nothing ever changes at good old Turbine. 3yrs an counting that they get their head out of their 5th point of contact.:D

[ianliam]

All i'm going to say is






















Just tell us why is there another delay

[Cairo]

Glad to see nothing ever changes at good old Turbine. 3yrs an counting that they get their head out of their 5th point of contact.:D

actually, it's 10 years and counting.. theyre still running Asheron's Call, since 1999 :P

[ianliam]

And still the servers are down?. "Come on" get a REAL person in there to start them back up.

[Raveneia]

And still the servers are down?. "Come on" get a REAL person in there to start them back up.

These days EVERYTHING is replaced with machines, you just have to look at the supermarket only about 2-3 checkouts open with real people serving you and the rest is self serve via a computer.

[FluffyCalico]

We are waiting on remote hands at our datacenter to respond. New uptime of 9:00am.

LMAO the servers need F1 pressed. Please get a KVM or ilow or a colo center that is near your employees! :eek:

[Whippy]

And still the servers are down?. "Come on" get a REAL person in there to start them back up.

He said 9am.. thats 20mins from now... chill :)

[Lifeblood]

Sorry been having issues for the last 3 hours on Khyber, when was it proposed that it would only be down for an hour? Here in aus i find it hard to equate what time is what, ya know, est v cst v any other st, so what time kinda like is that in australia time? Is that now, or in the near future or some other time? Just trying to figure out what time is what being its kinda been going on for a good couple of hours and now we are told it might be down for another hour?



try this link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

[Enochroot]

These days EVERYTHING is replaced with machines, you just have to look at the supermarket only about 2-3 checkouts open and the rest is self serve via a computer.

Yup - I can't understand a reason to even need remote hands this day and age unless you have TERRIBLE DATA CENTER PLANNING/INVESTMENT.


Oh yeah, that's what we have.


We have an operations guy here - what is happening that actually requires remote hands? Didn't we just move datacenters? You guys didn't plan for remote management during your move? How can you possibly be that bad at your job?


Or are you just feeding us some more stalling BS for some other problem?

[Cairo]

These days EVERYTHING is replaced with machines, you just have to look at the supermarket only about 2-3 checkouts open with real people serving you and the rest is self serve via a computer.

Holy Jesus! Your grocery store has 2-3 checkouts open?

Mine has 1 open during rush hour, and there's always 10+ people in line waiting. Then they open another for 10 minutes.

And ya cant use the self-checkout, cause they want you to keep all your groceries on there until they're paid for, so after the 4th item, youre out of room on the lil scale.

[Milamber69]

Or are you just feeding us some more stalling BS for some other problem?

;)

[gorsh1]

Two points; first has there ever been a time where the game has had a problem that has benifited the players, like instead of that 130gp drop in a chest instead there is 1000kplat or all rares drop at once ?
Second point is why does everyone still complain on the forum, I've been observing for some 2 and a half years and at each down time like this Turbine do exactly the same thing. You'd think everyone would have got sick of beating them selves up pointlessly.

[FluffyCalico]

Holy Jesus! Your grocery store has 2-3 checkouts open?

Mine has 1 open during rush hour, and there's always 10+ people in line waiting. Then they open another for 10 minutes.

And ya cant use the self-checkout, cause they want you to keep all your groceries on there until they're paid for, so after the 4th item, youre out of room on the lil scale.

????? Both the kroger and walmart near me have at least 5 lanes open even at 3am. And like 15+ during the day.

[GlassCannon]

just thought a time it would be done would have been nice

They hit deadlines like a blind cripple lands a throwing dart on a target on the back of a hyperactive fly 500 yards away. It's best to simply be patient and watch. ;)

[Moorganna]

Holy Jesus! Your grocery store has 2-3 checkouts open?

Mine has 1 open during rush hour, and there's always 10+ people in line waiting. Then they open another for 10 minutes.

And ya cant use the self-checkout, cause they want you to keep all your groceries on there until they're paid for, so after the 4th item, youre out of room on the lil scale.

WOW... shop in a small town where you know everyone by name, almost NEVER wait in line and only one of the TWO lanes is open. (BTW we just got a scanner last year and I think manually entering the price was faster.)

[Enochroot]

WOW... shop in a small town where you know everyone by name, almost NEVER wait in line and only one of the TWO lanes is open. (BTW we just got a scanner last year and I think manually entering the price was faster.)

Interesting, I was going to tell him to live in a large city where we actually have real numbers of checkout lines with real automated scanners you can remove the already checked items - compared to whatever burb he's living in ...

[Giddian]

Do you think any of what you said would ever impact, uhm, say, LOTRO or WoW?

I'm tired of the "Red Headed Stepchild" treatment that DDO is to Turbine, it's never ending.

Sure, people can say that can't foresee all these issues...blah, blah, blah.....

I still believe this would never occur to LOTRO, absolutely never.

I have seen it happen on LOTRO, It happens on EVERY MMORPG, There is a Problem, They are fixing it. It's NOT the end of the world. Relax and watch your Cartoons. It wil be up soon.

[Cairo]

????? Both the kroger and walmart near me have at least 5 lanes open even at 3am. And like 15+ during the day.

I'm jealous. The Ukrop's I go to sucks. Takes a good 40 minutes to get out of there.




Interesting, I was going to tell him to live in a large city where we actually have real numbers of checkout lines with real automated scanners you can remove the already checked items - compared to whatever burb he's living in ...


Edited out snark, cause, well, it's Sunday.

Sunday morning snark aside, There's a good dozen lanes, they're just never staffed, and there's never any baggers around, I end up having to bag my own stuff half the time, and they give you dirty looks if you do that :|

[Doomcrew]

Argo's is up

Cheers

[ShiningEagle]

Argo looks to be up.

[Turial]

Looks like argo's up.

[Cairo]

Hey guys, is Argo up?

[Enochroot]

Awwww! You think it's alright to assume you know everything about someone! That's so cute! See, grown-ups try not to assume things about people they don't personally know. That way, it's less embarrassing for you when I tell you I live in a large city. But don't worry, I'm sure you'll learn that some day, when you assume the wrong thing about the wrong person :D


I never said I know everything about everything. I DO know a lot about datacenter operations.


The "assumption" was just to make a joke/zing about podunk suburbs - but *now* I know you have no sense of humour nor can you forget that you just got obliterated for saying something stupid about datacenter operations, which you have clearly no clue about.


I'm glad you know things about grown-ups - maybe someday you'll know something remotely valuable.

[Rambin]

Man, even a Commodore 64 restarts with the flick of a switch...

the game servers are much more complex than a commodor 64. I should know, I still have 3 of them (2 still in original box).

I also have experience with managing servers at 32 schools. There is much more to it than hitting the power button. If all you want the server to do is be a file server then the power button is all that is needed, but for anything running specific software that is accessed from a remote location you have to do several steps to get the servers running and the software started.

[ShiningEagle]

Hey guys, is Argo up?

Nope, don't think so, must be a "remote hands" error.

[Patience]

Morning, everyone. Thanks for waiting, but please don't use arguing as a form of substitute entertainment. ;) In fact, if you play on Argonesson, it just came up with the rest opening in the next few moments!

[Enochroot]

Morning, everyone. Thanks for waiting, but please don't use arguing as a form of substitute entertainment. ;) In fact, if you play on Argonesson, it just came up with the rest opening in the next few moments!


As long as the servers are back up, deal! =)

[Turial]

Morning, everyone. Thanks for waiting, but please don't use arguing as a form of substitute entertainment. ;) In fact, if you play on Argonesson, it just came up with the rest opening in the next few moments!

Just a heads up. Khyber said it was up and when I went to log in the server updated to closed status.

[CaseStringer]

Argo. came back up @ 8:54am (-4 GMT)... Others are still Red X's...

As i was typing, Khyber & Ghallanda started to come back online.

[ShiningEagle]

Morning, everyone. Thanks for waiting, but please don't use arguing as a form of substitute entertainment. ;) In fact, if you play on Argonesson, it just came up with the rest opening in the next few moments!

^ this

[Enochroot]

the game servers are much more complex than a commodor 64. I should know, I still have 3 of them (2 still in original box).

I also have experience with managing servers at 32 schools. There is much more to it than hitting the power button. If all you want the server to do is be a file server then the power button is all that is needed, but for anything running specific software that is accessed from a remote location you have to do several steps to get the servers running and the software started.


This should almost never be true. People MUST learn to automate in the IT world. Seriously, the days of manually remoting to a box to perform manual tasks are over. We have the tools to not have to worry about that these days.


Please don't be *that* operations guy.

[Savroix]

Morning, everyone. Thanks for waiting, but please don't use arguing as a form of substitute entertainment.

Pitchforks and torches maybe?

[Cairo]

I never said I know everything about everything. I DO know a lot about datacenter operations.


The "assumption" was just to make a joke/zing about podunk suburbs - but *now* I know you have no sense of humour nor can you forget that you just got obliterated for saying something stupid about datacenter operations, which you have clearly no clue about.


I'm glad you know things about grown-ups - maybe someday you'll know something remotely valuable.

Obliterated?

Really?

Obliterated?

I've yet to meet a mature adult who thinks he "obliterates people" on message boards o.O

"Hey Frank, how was your weekend?"
"It was good, Mike, I totally obliterated this f*g on the boards. Total pwnage, it was epic. I went out and pwned nubs for like 6 hours afterward. @#$%ing nubs don't know how to play ****, man, ill tell ya. Hey, did you get the memo about the TPS reports?"
"......Are you high?"



And please, my Lord Master Obliterator Of Everything And All, please forgive me for specializing in medicine instead of IT, and may you have mercy on me for using humor in a thread that you're unable to see anything but "SRS BZNS" in.

By the way, that was sarcasm, since I know you hvae trouble telling when someone's serious on the internet. :)

[Divinius_d'Phiarlan]

Thelanis is last, back of the bus!

[honkuimushi]

Two points; first has there ever been a time where the game has had a problem that has benifited the players, like instead of that 130gp drop in a chest instead there is 1000kplat or all rares drop at once ?
Second point is why does everyone still complain on the forum, I've been observing for some 2 and a half years and at each down time like this Turbine do exactly the same thing. You'd think everyone would have got sick of beating them selves up pointlessly.

Well, there were those 2 times where returners were duplicated so that you got 100 returners for each one in your pack. People were handing out returners to their friends or selling 99 of them to the vendors and keeping one. This was back when returners were pretty rare and things like the Chill Shard and Dwarven Thrower were uber loot. That worked out well for some players-- at least until the "fix" they applied the second time.

[Enochroot]

Obliterated?

Really?

Obliterated?

I've yet to meet a mature adult who thinks he "obliterates people" on message boards o.O

"Hey Frank, how was your weekend?"
"It was good, Mike, I totally obliterated this f*g on the boards. Total pwnage, it was epic. I went out and pwned nubs for like 6 hours afterward. @#$%ing nubs don't know how to play ****, man, ill tell ya. Hey, did you get the memo about the TPS reports?"
"......Are you high?"



And please, my Lord Master Obliterator Of Everything And All, please forgive me for specializing in medicine instead of IT, and may you have mercy on me for using humor in a thread that you're unable to see anything but "SRS BZNS" in.

By the way, that was sarcasm, since I know you hvae trouble telling when someone's serious on the internet. :)


Yeah? Big words. Are you going to edit out this snarky post as well and not stand by your nasty comments?


And no, I'm not a mature adult. I spend my free time playing DDO! Come on. You think I have a family and responsibilities?


Fine - you didn't specialize in IT - but you know what I don't do? Troll medical forums with inaccurate information about how "the doctors are doing the best" when really they're "****ing everything up"


*** Edit: Oh, sorry, Sarlona is back up, and I promised Patience I would stop arguing then - see ya in game ***

[Savroix]

Thelanis is last, back of the bus!

What's up with that anyway? Seems like we're always the last one to come back online.

Meh. Just like Brandywine server on LOTRO...

[Arkat]

Because the idea of changing the clocks for Daylight Saving Time is repulsive to most people. If there were any real energy savings from it, why not just leave it that way for the entire year, and eliminate the headaches that come from setting the clocks forward and back?

DST is repulsive to most people? Really? Got any valid statistical data on that assertion? No? Go away.

P.S. DST is NOT some governmental conspiracy.

P.P.S. Headaches from changing clocks? You really should see a physician about that. No one I know gets headaches from having to change some clocks.


So what do we say for those places that do not have daylight time? Do you get made at them too? :rolleyes:

How about those on double daylight? Would you like to invent a specific term for them in order to not confuse you?

Finally you do realize that even for those using Daylight Time the start and stop periods are different?

You could just say "Eastern Time" or "Central Time." Those are VERY simple terms.

[Savroix]

DST is repulsive to most people? Really? Got any valid statistical data on that assertion? No? Go away.

P.S. DST is NOT some governmental conspiracy.


Only in DDO would people be arguing over DST. ;)

[Moorganna]

Only in DDO would people be arguing over DST. ;)

But... what ELSE is there to do while needing to waste time while waiting to... play games wasting time... OH, NEVERMIND! See you in-game.

[Savroix]

But... what ELSE is there to do while needing to waste time while waiting to... play games wasting time... OH, NEVERMIND! See you in-game.

LOL, already there! ;) Have fun! :D

[Blood]

How come no one is complaining? We need more complaints! I think I'll complain about complaining. Now thats what I call fun! :D

[woundweaver]

Your kidding right? This kind of stuff is always happening. The game randomly decides to take 5 minutes for you to sell something, people occasionally have a issue logging in, mail refuses to let you take stuff out, bank's wont open.

This isn't something that happens occasionally its always happening,

always happening, and their "fix" is a restart. why not use this month you pushed the mod back in, and get a real dev team to fix the problems. youve been restarting for quite awhile now, and it obviously hasnt worked in solving the problem completely. stop circumventing the real problems, and quit worrying about things that dont matter. use our money for good use, for once. maybe buy new, updated equipment??? just a thought. or does your team not know how to compile and read debug reports to find the problem? if not, fire them all, and hire from scratch. maybe then we can have a great player experience. this game is gonna be renamed "dungeons and downtime offline" if you cant get this crashing thing under control.

[smatt]

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