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Cowdenicus
06-28-2009, 04:39 AM
I have a level 15 Barbarian currently. I was waiting for Superior Two weapon fighting to come out for him but I ma not sure if that is going to happen now. I had a place holer feat (Khopesh) at level 15 hoping STWF would be in the game.

Dont know what I should do now. Advice would be greatly appreciated.


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Pickin
Level 15 Chaotic Good Human Male
(15 Barbarian)
Hit Points: 317
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 9
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 15)
Strength 16 21
Dexterity 16 18
Constitution 16 19
Intelligence 8 9
Wisdom 10 11
Charisma 8 9

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 15)
Balance 6 13
Bluff -1 -1
Concentration 3 4
Diplomacy -1 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 -1
Heal 0 0
Hide 4 4
Intimidate 3 17
Jump 7 23
Listen 0 0
Move Silently 4 4
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot 0 0
Swim 3 5
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 1 8

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I


Level 2 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I


Level 4 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II


Level 5 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Item Defense I


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II


Level 7 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower III


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Barbarian Item Defense II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III


Level 10 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II


Level 11 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness III


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness IV


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage II


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh

Vivanto
06-28-2009, 04:42 AM
Not gonna happen, but keep khopesh, and use em as your main weapon style ^^

Also even if stwf would ever come out, you'll need a 19 base dex, so until you get a +3 tome, you wouldn't be able to take it. But as stated, we won't get it. Only rangers get stwf if going for tempest 3 in mod 9.

Should they reintroduce it as selectable feat, you can always just respec.

Cowdenicus
06-28-2009, 05:12 AM
Not gonna happen, but keep khopesh, and use em as your main weapon style ^^

Also even if stwf would ever come out, you'll need a 19 base dex, so until you get a +3 tome, you wouldn't be able to take it. But as stated, we won't get it. Only rangers get stwf if going for tempest 3 in mod 9.

Should they reintroduce it as selectable feat, you can always just respec.

I really prefer picks to khopeshes...

especially with the 17-20 x4 damage.

Shade
06-28-2009, 05:38 AM
Reroll.

18 base strength. 16 is too low.
15 base dex is plenty, +2 tome for GTWF. Heck even 14/13 if your willing to wait on a +3/4 dex tome.

VKhaun
06-28-2009, 06:01 AM
Reroll.

18 base strength. 16 is too low.
15 base dex is plenty, +2 tome for GTWF. Heck even 14/13 if your willing to wait on a +3/4 dex tome.

This.
Chaotic neutral does nothing for you.
Dex is too high.

Cowdenicus
06-28-2009, 06:08 AM
Reroll.

18 base strength. 16 is too low.
15 base dex is plenty, +2 tome for GTWF. Heck even 14/13 if your willing to wait on a +3/4 dex tome.

I am not so sure 1 point of damage and +1 to hit is worth rerolling for??? and what happens if later they do add STWF?

VKhaun
06-28-2009, 06:41 AM
I am not so sure 1 point of damage and +1 to hit is worth rerolling for??? and what happens if later they do add STWF?

STWF won't be available for barbarians, only rangers, according to Shade.

+1 damage per swing that stacks with everything.
Power attack enhancements are only +1 each, you snapped up all of those.
How many times do you swing at an enemy? A portal? Adds up quick.

Aranticus
06-28-2009, 07:21 AM
I am not so sure 1 point of damage and +1 to hit is worth rerolling for??? and what happens if later they do add STWF?

1 point is everything. more damage = less time to take down a mob = less resources used. with end content mobs having a huge hp pool, every little bit helps. a bard with a +4/5 IC will never never need an extra charm stone in hound normal. a bard with a +3 song may need a 5th stone and possibly lead to raid failure

boldarblood
06-29-2009, 04:58 AM
If you have free spots for new characters, it would be worthwhile to roll up a new barb and have fun with him. Then you can turn this character into a shroud only toon for ingredients, deleting later when you need another slot. Don't need to spend a lot of time/effort getting him set with shroud items / DT armor / etc.

But if you are out of slots, I myself would be tempted to start a new barb instead. If you are going to be putting the work into getting the barb all the raid/crafting gear it's always good to make sure the stats are done right.

That being said, the character is playable.

Noctus
06-29-2009, 08:45 AM
The character is playable, no need to reroll.

Yes he can benefit from rerolling, but not so much that i´d recommend it for anybody except those people who cap a character in 2 weeks of realtime. And you´d need at least one +2 tome to really benefit from it.

All the basics that make up a good Barbarian are there. Only IC:Piercing should be swapped to IC:Slashing. A more casual player should think twice about rerolling a build without fundamental design flaws.

There is a difference between "can be made better through rerolling" and "messed up build which will perfrom poorly". Both are viable reasons to reroll, but the 1st reason might not hold a good enough gain/investment ratio to be really worth it in many cases for the more casual players.

boldarblood
06-29-2009, 03:18 PM
There is a difference between "can be made better through rerolling" and "messed up build which will perfrom poorly". Both are viable reasons to reroll, but the 1st reason might not hold a good enough gain/investment ratio to be really worth it in many cases for the more casual players.

If he plans to add shroud items, raid items, DT Armor, invest tomes, etc. Then this is bad advice given. If you are going to grind all the above gear, then reroll IS the best option.

Cowdenicus
06-29-2009, 04:11 PM
I decided to keep my current barbarian basically as is. I also decided to create a warforged 2 handed fighting barbarian.