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Lithic
06-24-2009, 09:44 PM
Attention Bard Buffs (pun intended). I need to reroll my haggler so it can be usefull in quests. I would like to aim for decent melee ability, but with the following restrictions:

1) Human race
2) MAX charisma (18 to start, all level up points in cha)
3) Must take skill focus: haggle, negotiator
4) 34AP spent on Bard Haggle 4, Human Versitility 4, Human Cha1, Bard Cha3
5)32pt builds available
6) +2 tomes available
7) Max haggle skill ranks


Had a build all typed up but lost it, so interested in seeing what you guys come up with in the time it takes me to get around to typing it all out again.

Edit: Ok here it is:

Audit Redux:
L20 Human Bard
True Neutral (like any banker)
Warchanter Specced

Stats:
14 Str (+2 tome, +2 rage, +6 item) = 24
15 Dex (+2 tome) = 17
10 Con (+2 tome, +6 item, +2 rage, +2 Exc. con on min 2) = 20 (22)
08 Int
08 Wis
18 Cha (+5 level ups, +3 bard enh, +1 human enh, +6 item, +3 tome, +2 capstone, +3 exc. cha) = 41

Skills:
UMD
Perform
Haggle
Balance
Jump
Concentration

Feats:
Human: 2WF
01Bard: power attack
03Bard: Weapon focus pierce
06Bard: ***Undecided (Current favs: toughness, extend, Emp. Heal)
09Bard: I2WF
12Bard: Skill focus: Haggle
15Bard: G2WF
18Bard: Negotiator

Enhancements of Note:
Haggle 4 (10pts)
Human Vers. 4 (10pts)
Bard Cha 3 (12pts)
Human Cha 1 (2pts)
Warchanter (4pts)
Inspired bravery 2 (3pts)
Inspired attack 1 (2pts)
Inspired Damage 3 (6pts)
Lingering song 3 (6pts)
Any extra pts spent in insprired damage, inspired attack, lingering song, healing% depending on whats available due to min# pts spent requirements.

Tohit:
15 BAB
07 Str
05 Weapon
04 GH
01 Weapon focus
01 Focusing chant
06 Songs
-5 PA
-4 Double rapiers
Total: +30 on first swing self buffed

Favored weapons:
For usual meleeing:
1) Min2 acid/goodburst/acidblast
Min2 acid/goodburst/+2con

For spellcasting/healing/mana recharge/haggling mode:
2) Conc. Opp. unholy/+1Cha/+2 Cha (why unholy? the only other option is 15% neg energy absorption. Unholy looks cool too)
Conc. Opp. Holy/+1str/Sup. dev. 6

HP:
020 base
010 AoA
120 bard levels
100 Con
030 GFL
045 shroud HP item
Total: 325 (About twice what Audit has now lol)
Toughness would add 42.

Aranticus
06-24-2009, 10:08 PM
Attention Bard Buffs (pun intended). I need to reroll my haggler so it can be usefull in quests. I would like to aim for decent melee ability, but with the following restrictions:

1) Human race
2) MAX charisma (18 to start, all level up points in cha)
3) Must take skill focus: haggle, negotiator
4) 34AP spent on Bard Haggle 4, Human Versitility 4, Human Cha1, Bard Cha3
5)32pt builds available
6) +2 tomes available
7) Max haggle skill ranks


Had a build all typed up but lost it, so interested in seeing what you guys come up with in the time it takes me to get around to typing it all out again.

my bard have some points in str and con and primarily act as secondary healer/crowd control with extend and spell pen. my APs are invested in the haggle, spellsinger, human vers, max damage song (attack enhancements not really worth since GH is available) and rest in the healing enhancements. with a tier 3 triple air goggles, i have approx 1400 sp

Lithic
06-24-2009, 11:45 PM
my bard have some points in str and con and primarily act as secondary healer/crowd control with extend and spell pen. my APs are invested in the haggle, spellsinger, human vers, max damage song (attack enhancements not really worth since GH is available) and rest in the healing enhancements. with a tier 3 triple air goggles, i have approx 1400 sp

Thats about what Audit is now. Spellsinger with maxed damage song, decent mass heals for shroud. Never had the spell pen to do much in the latest quests, and the new ones are even worse (I don't think one mob failed its greater shout stunning save the whole time, with a 38 Charisma).

I'm thinking of going 2wf warchanter, though obviously with the loss of 2 feats and some AP, the dps will be less than ideal.