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mystery151x
06-16-2009, 01:28 AM
Ive been playing a rogue/Ranger and ive been using 2 Long swords. I was wondering is it better to use weapons that are light like daggers, scythes, ect.. ???

FluffyCalico
06-16-2009, 01:41 AM
Ive been playing a rogue/Ranger and ive been using 2 Long swords. I was wondering is it better to use weapons that are light like daggers, scythes, ect.. ???

If you are able to hit on a 2 then penality is not hurting you. If you find yourself missing alot then you need to go with something with no extra penalty to use in your offhand

TreknaQudane
06-16-2009, 01:44 AM
Ive been playing a rogue/Ranger and ive been using 2 Long swords. I was wondering is it better to use weapons that are light like daggers, scythes, ect.. ???

Lets see if I can decipher this...

*rolls a 1 and fails*

Moving on then.

When you TWF with two regular size weapons you recieve a -4 penalty to hit in each hand UNLESS you have the 'Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting' feat. If you were to wield a light weapon in your off-hand, you would only receive a -2 penalty to attack, in each hand.

You receive no bonus from using two light weapons, unless you are a finesse character, in which case you'll have to use a light weapon or a rapier if you want to actually hit your target.

That being said, unless you have a compelling reason to use Longswords, I would suggest going with dual Knopesh or dual if you don't have the feat for 'EWP: Khopesh'. Lacking the feat for Khopesh, and you need the extra to hit I'd also recommend Scimitar/Kukri

Light Weapons:
Dagger
Handaxe
Kama
Kukri
Sickle
Light Mace
Light Hammer
Light Pick
Short Sword

mystery151x
06-16-2009, 01:57 AM
If i get the khopesh feat and use dual Khopesh will i still recieve the penalty?

Arnya
06-16-2009, 02:04 AM
This is the penalty table as per D20SRD:


Normal: -6/-10
Light Off-hand Weapon: -4/-8
TWF Feat: -4/-4
TWF + Light Off-hand Weapon: -2/-2

Take that as a starting point then test in-game, I'm pretty sure it follows these numbers. I assume OTWF with 2 khopeshes would produce -2/-2 as per the bottom row of the table...

Goldeneye
06-16-2009, 02:08 AM
If i get the khopesh feat and use dual Khopesh will i still recieve the penalty?

Yes... you will be proficient in Khopesh, but you will still receive a penalty for having a large weapon in your off-hand.

Personally, if you have the Improved Crit: Slash feat, I recommend wielding a Longsword or Scimitar in the main hand, and a kukri in the off-hand. If you have Imp Crit Pierce, put a rapier in one hand, and a shortsword in the off-hand.

TreknaQudane
06-16-2009, 02:17 AM
If i get the khopesh feat and use dual Khopesh will i still recieve the penalty?

Yes, you will still need the Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Feat to only recieve -2/-2 not -4/-4 .. Keep in mind though, none of us can play your character. Do you honestly think an extra +2 to hit is enough to make or break your character? If it is? don't go khopesh .. Go Longsword/Kukri or Scimitar/Kukri

mystery151x
06-16-2009, 02:52 PM
If i had the Oversized weapon feat and two weapon fighting. When i use say a scimitar in my main hand and a light in my off hand will i still recieve a penalty?

LewsTherin
06-16-2009, 02:58 PM
yes

SEMPER
06-16-2009, 02:58 PM
what race are u and are u str based ?

if u have the otwf feat u can use two large weapons and not receive a penalty

Kylstrem
06-16-2009, 03:19 PM
if u have the otwf feat u can use two large weapons and not receive a penalty

If you OTWF, you can use two large weapons with the -2/-2 penalty.

You can never get out of penalties with any sort of two-weapon under current game rules and feats. You can just minimize them.