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Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:01 PM
My wife just recently went out (yesterday) and bought a new computer without my knoweldge or say so. Our current computer is a piece of $&^% but I was waiting till i researched for computers before actually makign a purchase. Nonetheless, I refrained from going off the handle until I can get a handle on what she purchsed.

As such, this is what she got and I need some help from you computer fanatics to assure me that what she got is going to be good for my DDO. I am also resigning to the fact that I know nothing about computers.

Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8MB Cache
Power Supply: 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 250 - Superclocked Edition
Video Optimizer: v1.0: Video Performance Optimizer - More Info
Memory: 3GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 3 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Intel® X-58 Motherboard- Socket 1366 Core i7 Ready, Dual Triple Channel DDR3 Memory
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 750GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Ports
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio

Indrn_Fretgoop
05-19-2009, 12:05 PM
with that setuip and vista you will be able to run ddo in direct x20 ith real time shadows and water reflections! it will be ddo at its finest.

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:10 PM
with that setuip and vista you will be able to run ddo in direct x20 ith real time shadows and water reflections! it will be ddo at its finest.


are you serious? never seen that as i have to run on low res all the time. now is this direct x20 automatic or do i have to go into graphics in DDO and set it up?

im starting to geek out, but have to wait a week before we receive the product. I might love her instead of yell at her tonight now.

kudesnik
05-19-2009, 12:11 PM
Since you have 64 Bit OS already the only thing I recommend is to boost memory to at least 4GB. Everything else looks decent.

wamjratl1
05-19-2009, 12:13 PM
My wife just recently went out (yesterday) and bought a new computer without my knoweldge or say so. Our current computer is a piece of $&^% but I was waiting till i researched for computers before actually makign a purchase. Nonetheless, I refrained from going off the handle until I can get a handle on what she purchsed.

As such, this is what she got and I need some help from you computer fanatics to assure me that what she got is going to be good for my DDO. I am also resigning to the fact that I know nothing about computers.

Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8MB Cache
Power Supply: 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 250 - Superclocked Edition
Video Optimizer: v1.0: Video Performance Optimizer - More Info
Memory: 3GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 3 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Intel® X-58 Motherboard- Socket 1366 Core i7 Ready, Dual Triple Channel DDR3 Memory
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 750GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Ports
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio

You should cook dinner for your wife tonight and then rub her feet. Then please have her call my wife and convince her to go 'puter shopping.:D

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:14 PM
Since you have 64 Bit OS already the only thing I recommend is to boost memory to at least 4GB. Everything else looks decent.


okay, thank you.

Lorichie
05-19-2009, 12:15 PM
You should cook dinner for your wife tonight and then rub her feet. Then please have her call my wife and convince her to go 'puter shopping.:D

agree, she did fine, tho i would up ram as someone said above me, vista is a hog, youll want 4 gig min, six is even better, and ram is cheap. imo.

R

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:16 PM
You should cook dinner for your wife tonight and then rub her feet. Then please have her call my wife and convince her to go 'puter shopping.:D


dinner is in the works but from the positive feedback i pressuem i need to give her a back rub as well as a foot rub. again thanks - im not freaking out now anymore. :)

Missing_Minds
05-19-2009, 12:43 PM
Since you have 64 Bit OS already the only thing I recommend is to boost memory to at least 4GB. Everything else looks decent.

Incorrect.

"Dual Triple Channel DDR3 Memory"

He is better going up to 6 gig, other wise the mem controller may have a fit. By leaving it at 3 gig he's probably getting the proper buss cycle time. making it go to 4 will almost certainly mess that up.

I'd also see how much it would be to change from the 250 over clocked card up to a 260 with more ram on the card. But this is a personal choice.

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:43 PM
agree, she did fine, tho i would up ram as someone said above me, vista is a hog, youll want 4 gig min, six is even better, and ram is cheap. imo.

R


Okay had wife call in and make a modification to the order making the memory a 6GB.

thanks again for everyones input.

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:50 PM
Incorrect.

I'd also see how much it would be to change from the 250 over clocked card up to a 260 with more ram on the card. But this is a personal choice.


Yeah the wife says that would be another $150 and that the 6g just tapped her out on her (my) budget. I pressume I can always get it later.

Strakeln
05-19-2009, 12:52 PM
More memory (done), I'd also suggest another video card, especially if you run on a larger screen.

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 12:56 PM
More memory (done), I'd also suggest another video card, especially if you run on a larger screen.

i run with a 20-inch flatscreen LCD- too much?

Lorichie
05-19-2009, 12:59 PM
are you serious? never seen that as i have to run on low res all the time. now is this direct x20 automatic or do i have to go into graphics in DDO and set it up?

im starting to geek out, but have to wait a week before we receive the product. I might love her instead of yell at her tonight now.

on a side note, if you've only run in low res, you are in for a treat. for a week at least you will be giggling like a school girl at all the things you will see. "wow, i never saw that before..." will be your most common phrase...this game will feel like brand new for quite a while. it did for me when i upgraded, it was like i was playing the game from day one all over again. you will see this game as it was meant to be seen, thats my opinion btw.

have fun

R

Lorichie
05-19-2009, 01:01 PM
i run with a 20-inch flatscreen LCD- too much?

youll be fine with 20 inch, strake has a movie theatre screen he plays on lol

(i play on 24" with a single 8800 gt atm and i do fine, you'll be ok with yours)

R

Gamedog
05-19-2009, 01:02 PM
i run with a 20-inch flatscreen LCD- too much?

20-inch is just fine, just make sure you set the resolution to the highest your monitor can handle....usually for 20 inch is 1650x1080. Enjoy you new system.

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 01:05 PM
20-inch is just fine, just make sure you set the resolution to the highest your monitor can handle....usually for 20 inch is 1650x1080. Enjoy you new system.


<hunches over and puts his hands up to his mouth covering his smile as he giggles>

tee hee!

wife is getting some lovin for sure!

Hanam
05-19-2009, 01:05 PM
More memory (done), I'd also suggest another video card, especially if you run on a larger screen.

Completely unnecessary.

Riorik
05-19-2009, 01:14 PM
Incorrect.

"Dual Triple Channel DDR3 Memory"

He is better going up to 6 gig, other wise the mem controller may have a fit. By leaving it at 3 gig he's probably getting the proper buss cycle time. making it go to 4 will almost certainly mess that up.



What do you mean? I'm familiar with dual-channel RAM and I'm familiar with how even with matching chips it's usually just a 1-2% performance boost compared to just slapping in mismatched memory. Well, nearly anything. Not all RAM is created equal or compatible with every motherboard...assuming memory that's FULLY supported, the benefits of matching are really often just for the obsessed with speed types.

I'd ask if there's a problem with the CPU support of triple channel ram that somehow changes this relationship?

I do think that 6xGB is still the best option, but NOT because you're expecting actual performance issues with 4xGB.

Strakeln
05-19-2009, 03:07 PM
i run with a 20-inch flatscreen LCD- too much?


youll be fine with 20 inch, strake has a movie theatre screen he plays on lol

(i play on 24" with a single 8800 gt atm and i do fine, you'll be ok with yours)

RIf Rich is fine with a single 8800gt and 24", you'll be fine at 20".


Completely unnecessary.Easy to state... once you know the screen size.

Ever try running a 30" screen on 512MB of video memory? Two cards become absolutely required.

I'd also add that I would expect that 512MB of video memory will soon not be enough to run on ultra high settings on a 20" monitor (I'm talking about near future games, not DDO).

Hawksen
05-19-2009, 03:18 PM
At first i was scared but then i looked at your specs... WOW! :D
Your wife hooked you up man. Try to get more RAM however but you can always upgrade later when you upgrade your video card (6 - 8 months?)

Congratulations on your new system.

-Hawksendoom

Hawksen
05-19-2009, 03:20 PM
on a side note, if you've only run in low res, you are in for a treat. for a week at least you will be giggling like a school girl at all the things you will see. "wow, i never saw that before..." will be your most common phrase...this game will feel like brand new for quite a while. it did for me when i upgraded, it was like i was playing the game from day one all over again. you will see this game as it was meant to be seen, thats my opinion btw.

have fun

R

Exactly the feeling I had to the T
/signed
-Hawksendoom

Yajerman01
05-19-2009, 03:50 PM
Now I am all ramped up on wanting this thing and still have a week+ until I receive it. In the meantime, my current computer now makes an odd sound and my wife is having trouble dowloading all her pictures onto disk. and most recently I have to unplug and then replug in my headseat because my audio starts warping into funky sounds, speeding up and slowing down sounds. It sounds of DOOOOOMMMMM, lol. Its like my wife did it just in the nic of time!

ill make one more post after I get a hold of this thing and get it up n running.

thanks all. Im very calm and now happy with her decision.:)

Theboz
05-19-2009, 04:32 PM
agree, she did fine, tho i would up ram as someone said above me, vista is a hog, youll want 4 gig min, six is even better, and ram is cheap. imo.

R

Wrong, not correct with I7 Intel processor, You can go with 4 gigs but it will be slower then 3 gigs. the reason is that I7 proccessor need 3 gigs to be ran at the ultimamum configuration. Tri-channel, previous processor were dual-channel.

So, you need either 3 gigs or 6 gigs or 9 gigs

and 3 gigs of DD3 memory is not that cheap about 75 dollars or more

Theboz
05-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Now I am all ramped up on wanting this thing and still have a week+ until I receive it. In the meantime, my current computer now makes an odd sound and my wife is having trouble dowloading all her pictures onto disk. and most recently I have to unplug and then replug in my headseat because my audio starts warping into funky sounds, speeding up and slowing down sounds. It sounds of DOOOOOMMMMM, lol. Its like my wife did it just in the nic of time!

ill make one more post after I get a hold of this thing and get it up n running.

thanks all. Im very calm and now happy with her decision.:)


She got you a very nice computer, Way way way over kill for DDO, but it will last you a long time before you need to upgrade.

Tyrande
05-19-2009, 04:49 PM
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8MB Cache
Power Supply: 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 250 - Superclocked Edition
Video Optimizer: v1.0: Video Performance Optimizer - More Info
Memory: 3GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 3 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Intel® X-58 Motherboard- Socket 1366 Core i7 Ready, Dual Triple Channel DDR3 Memory
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 750GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Ports
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio

It is a nice computer. Curious, how much is it?
With this setup, you can probably run DDO in "Ultra High" graphics mode and still have good FPS. Only in this mode you can see and snipe monsters more than 200 feet away.

Agreed. Your wife definitely deserves some good loving & care.

Jastron
05-19-2009, 05:17 PM
I run a Core i7-920 and I don't think I've ever seen my CPU use go above 25% in DDO. DDO likes 4-6 GB of RAM in Vista64 for optimal performance, I'm not convinced you'd get even 1% more out of it with more than 6 GB but 6 is noticeably better than 3 for that situation. You should be very happy with the setup! I'm not familiar with that model video card, but it should be more than adequate. Be excited, and have fun when it arrives! And don't forget to take your wife out to dinner :-)

Riorik
05-19-2009, 06:00 PM
Now I am all ramped up on wanting this thing and still have a week+ until I receive it. In the meantime, my current computer now makes an odd sound and my wife is having trouble dowloading all her pictures onto disk. and most recently I have to unplug and then replug in my headseat because my audio starts warping into funky sounds, speeding up and slowing down sounds. It sounds of DOOOOOMMMMM, lol. Its like my wife did it just in the nic of time!

ill make one more post after I get a hold of this thing and get it up n running.

thanks all. Im very calm and now happy with her decision.:)

Driver issues on the headset.
You'll have to be more descriptive on what you mean by "trouble downloading".

On Noises, Drives & Fans are the only moving parts. Drive noises should stop when they're not being used. If you're comfortable popping the case (and not paranoid about breaking something) it's usually pretty easy to identify what's doing it. I would recommend NOT doing this but you could always use a foreign object to slow/stop the suspect fan. There's more than one reason why this could be a bad idea including breaking the blades immediately.

SimVerg
05-19-2009, 06:18 PM
If Rich is fine with a single 8800gt and 24", you'll be fine at 20".

Easy to state... once you know the screen size.

Ever try running a 30" screen on 512MB of video memory? Two cards become absolutely required.

I'd also add that I would expect that 512MB of video memory will soon not be enough to run on ultra high settings on a 20" monitor (I'm talking about near future games, not DDO).

Important note: If the bottleneck is actually video memory, adding a second card(whether via SLI or Crossfire) will not help. By adding a second card, you add processing power not video memory.

Theboz
05-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Important note: If the bottleneck is actually video memory, adding a second card(whether via SLI or Crossfire) will not help. By adding a second card, you add processing power not video memory.



The quote you refered to was correct, anything over 22 inches will see a improvement to having two videocards.

having a 30inch display and maxed out setting and you better have Crossfire or SLI.

You need processing power to able to compute the pixels in a display of 22 or bigger.

for instance

22 inch display has 1680 x 1050 = 1,764,000 pixels

30 inch display has 2560 x 1600 = 4,096,000 pixels

over 2 times the pixels as a 22 inch display, you need the power of two of todays videocards to be able to compute the mass amount of pixels, and you need the added video memory that comes with the videocards to be able to compute what each pixels looks like.


It dont matter how much video memory you have one card is not going to be able run a 30 inch display and have good frame rates.

Strakeln
05-19-2009, 10:52 PM
The quote you refered to was correct, anything over 22 inches will see a improvement to having two videocards.

having a 30inch display and maxed out setting and you better have Crossfire or SLI.

You need processing power to able to compute the pixels in a display of 22 or bigger.

for instance

22 inch display has 1680 x 1050 = 1,764,000 pixels

30 inch display has 2560 x 1600 = 4,096,000 pixels

over 2 times the pixels as a 22 inch display, you need the power of two of todays videocards to be able to compute the mass amount of pixels, and you need the added video memory that comes with the videocards to be able to compute what each pixels looks like.


It dont matter how much video memory you have one card is not going to be able run a 30 inch display and have good frame rates.SimVerg is right (as are you regarding the need for processing power). In my attempt to get away from talking about 8800gt's when the OP has a GTS 250, I chose very poor phrasing/terminology for what I was trying to express.

In the case of DDO on a 30" at very high settings, 512MB is sufficient but the processing power of one 8800GT is not.

Yaj, don't mind us, your setup is all good.

Yajerman01
05-20-2009, 10:36 AM
Yaj, don't mind us, your setup is all good.


thanks. I figured it was semantics once you all knew my screen size. On a side note though, now I know what I need to do if/wehn I get a larger screen.

again thank you everyone for your input.