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kingfisher
04-28-2009, 11:57 AM
to those that were in the rainbow group last night, we finished, tele back to meridia, got my end reward, hit the dijinni back to the twelve, stuck in loading screen........shutdown.....log in this morning with no rainbow completion in the favor tab, and no xp....anyone have the same issue? that sucks balls
Gorby
04-28-2009, 12:19 PM
I had the same thing, we finished Sorjek and looted our runes but got stuck on loading when recalling out. Logged in this morning to check what the soviergn property is and it is not in my possesion :mad:
UnderwearModel
04-28-2009, 02:28 PM
They had to reset to their last save, and the last save did not include the most recent completions, nor your most recent loot.
This has happened in the game for the last 1.5 years since I started to play.
Now, if they played with a mirrored system, then this would not happen. Just break the mirror and either replace the bad disk or break the mirror and reboot from the mirrored disk.
Then, let the database be mirrored back to the disk that crashed and the problem is solved.
But, they do not seem to do that.
kingfisher
04-28-2009, 03:14 PM
yeah yeah just a pain to do that **** quest anyway
Thrudh
04-28-2009, 03:23 PM
Now, if they played with a mirrored system, then this would not happen. Just break the mirror and either replace the bad disk or break the mirror and reboot from the mirrored disk.
Then, let the database be mirrored back to the disk that crashed and the problem is solved.
You don't know what you're talking about.
(1) Hardware RAID isn't going to require you to break the mirror. A hard drive crash wouldn't affect the game at all.
(2)Database corruption would occur on both disks, and they would have to restore from last backup (i.e. replay the transaction logs)
Club'in
04-28-2009, 03:28 PM
Any guesstimates about the time of the backup? I was doin a ton of equipment shuffling last night. Finished about 11:30 PST.
Pallol_One-Eye
04-28-2009, 03:30 PM
I honestly don't care what they did to fix it. Last night I actually saw the single biggest lag spike in a Shroud run I have ever witnessed.
We were just pounding on Harry in part 4, we had really good DPS I noticed in parts 1 and 2.
We had him down to about 5% on part 1 and then bam, 8 people were dead. I did not notice any lag before that at all. Just out of the blue 8 dead party members, no blades no nothing.
Suffice it to say that after losing the "support" classes and no haste other than pots/guards, it was not going to happen. I was swinging on the gnolls for all I was worth, but it took a good 5 seconds for the swings to register.
C'est la vie I guess.
/broken record off
Bashear
04-28-2009, 03:36 PM
Any guesstimates about the time of the backup? I was doin a ton of equipment shuffling last night. Finished about 11:30 PST.
I was wondering the same thing. I had just transferred a WOP dagger and a couple other items over to my lowbie. :eek:
I think did it approximately 10 minutes before I noticed problems, but so far have been unable to to check.
/crossing fingers
kingfisher
04-28-2009, 03:49 PM
I was wondering the same thing. I had just transferred a WOP dagger and a couple other items over to my lowbie. :eek:
I think did it approximately 10 minutes before I noticed problems, but so far have been unable to to check.
/crossing fingers
jesus thats like remembering you left the stove on 2 hours in to a 10 hour flight. good luck!
Club'in
04-28-2009, 04:00 PM
I was wondering the same thing. I had just transferred a WOP dagger and a couple other items over to my lowbie. :eek:
I think did it approximately 10 minutes before I noticed problems, but so far have been unable to to check.
/crossing fingers
What time did you start noticing problems? People that noticed losing quest completions, just lost the last one? Is the roll back an hour from before the crash? Two? What time was the crash? :D
UnderwearModel
04-28-2009, 04:08 PM
You don't know what you're talking about.
(1) Hardware RAID isn't going to require you to break the mirror. A hard drive crash wouldn't affect the game at all.
(2)Database corruption would occur on both disks, and they would have to restore from last backup (i.e. replay the transaction logs)
Let us say for example, in your world, then any business that uses a Mirrored system is totally susceptible to being rolled back.
RAID version 1 was the first real implementation of RAID. It provides a simple form of redundancy for data through a process called mirroring. This form typically requires two individual drives of similar capacity. One drive is the active drive and the secondary drive is the mirror. When data is written to the active drive, the same data is written to the mirror drive.
The following is an example of how the data is written in a RAID 1 implementation. Each row in the chart represents a physical block on the drive and each column is the individual drive. The numbers in the table represent the data blocks. Duplicate numbers indicate a duplicated data block.
This provides a full level of redundancy for the data on the system. If one of the drives fails, the other drive still has all the data that existed in the system. The big drawback of course is that the capacity of the RAID will only be as big as the smallest of the two drives, effectively halving the amount of storage capacity if the two drives were used independently.
Lerris
04-28-2009, 04:30 PM
Let us say for example, in your world, then any business that uses a Mirrored system is totally susceptible to being rolled back.
RAID version 1 was the first real implementation of RAID. It provides a simple form of redundancy for data through a process called mirroring. This form typically requires two individual drives of similar capacity. One drive is the active drive and the secondary drive is the mirror. When data is written to the active drive, the same data is written to the mirror drive.
The following is an example of how the data is written in a RAID 1 implementation. Each row in the chart represents a physical block on the drive and each column is the individual drive. The numbers in the table represent the data blocks. Duplicate numbers indicate a duplicated data block.
This provides a full level of redundancy for the data on the system. If one of the drives fails, the other drive still has all the data that existed in the system. The big drawback of course is that the capacity of the RAID will only be as big as the smallest of the two drives, effectively halving the amount of storage capacity if the two drives were used independently.
Any business using a mirrored setup is indeed susceptible to a need for rollback. If bad data is entered into a mirrored database, then both disks reflect the bad data. RAID does not protect us from the issues that a rollback fixes.
Turbine has said that the problem was that the game servers lost communication with the database. This means that the changes to your character/equipment/quest logs which are lost are those which you made since your last successful database access. Losing communication to the database is not a drive failure, so it does not matter what sort of mirroring/striping scheme is being used.
Bashear
04-28-2009, 04:32 PM
jesus thats like remembering you left the stove on 2 hours in to a 10 hour flight. good luck!
Yeah, no ****. Well said
What time did you start noticing problems? People that noticed losing quest completions, just lost the last one? Is the roll back an hour from before the crash? Two? What time was the crash? :D
I think I started to notice problems approximately 11:30 pm PST. I was out messing around with slayers in the GH, when I kept rubber banding back and forth. Being unable to do anything, I decided to shut down my client and try again. By that time though, I was unable to load in any toons and kept receiving a "cannot save characters" (or something to that effect) message.
Obviously Im hoping my lowbie has the items, but if not, the items should be on either my original toon that had them or on a friends toon who was helping me by making the transfer. Should be..... right? :confused:
Return_To_Forever
04-28-2009, 04:39 PM
Obviously Im hoping my lowbie has the items, but if not, the items should be on either my original toon that had them or on a friends toon who was helping me by making the transfer. Should be..... right? :confused:
THNX FOR THE WOP!
I mean **** server, hate these roll backs!:eek:
Bashear
04-28-2009, 04:46 PM
THNX FOR THE WOP!
I mean **** server, hate these roll backs!:eek:
Hahahaha, you bastard :)
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