Request: Alternate Header Images

[Gol]

without the personal attacks this time. No opinions, no arguments, just requesting options.

[Montrose]

Yes, please create an alternate header without the offending clothing.

[Borror0]

Can I have the sorceress back?

[jmonty]

how about.. resize your window and scroll down?

[jmonty]

really though, having the option of changing the forum skin shouldn't be too much to ask for.

[Lerincho]

so much for the respect and no flaming when he is humbling asking Turbine a small request.

[dragonruler]

how about.. resize your window and scroll down?

dude he asked for no bashing nicely. if you dont agree dont post. he just wants something that he can put on there that is more appropriate to have on his computer.

[Arnya]

I agree. This site has just become work-unfriendly.

[Return_To_Forever]

I don't get it though, why make another thread, no offense to your issue ofcourse, its just, the other thread was closed by a mod, they obviously know your issue. The request has been sent, another thread only re-opens up the discussion of the issue.

[Lerincho]

I don't get it though, why make another thread, no offense to your issue ofcourse, its just, the other thread was closed by a mod, they obviously know your issue. The request has been sent, another thread only re-opens up the discussion of the issue.

previous thread was closed because of flaming, not because of the issue. so he comes back formally request of Turbine to an alternative for those that do NOT want the image. he asks respectfully for no arguing, no flaming, and no personal attacks. yet no one can have the respect on these forums to actually honor such a request.

[Gol]

I don't get it though, why make another thread, no offense to your issue ofcourse, its just, the other thread was closed by a mod, they obviously know your issue. The request has been sent, another thread only re-opens up the discussion of the issue.
Because it got closed without so much as 1 word to address the actual issue and my PM went ignored.

[Big-Dex]

Back off guys!!!!

I agree with GOL. Giving an option is not a bad thing. It doesn't force his view on you and your view is not forced on him. Its a two-way street. You like the current image .. choose it. He likes something less provocative, he can choose it.

So give the guy a break and let his opinion, which is shared by others, be voiced without your lame trolling! Go tell DDO how much you like the new header image in the other thread that is up for that purpose (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=180602). Leave this one for those who would like an option.

Simple. Fair. Respectful. 'Nuff said.

Dex was here.

[totmacher]

sanitized header below. all corners have been rounded so people don't poke their eyes out, offensive text has been removed, demonic bat wings due to satanic influences have been neutralized and anything gold has been destroyed because it might encourage unfair play

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w280/dedfiz/header.jpg

[Montrose]

sanitized header below. all corners have been rounded so people don't poke their eyes out, offensive text has been removed, demonic bat wings due to satanic influences have been neutralized and anything gold has been destroyed because it might encourage unfair play

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w280/dedfiz/header.jpg

I am offended by the red color. Please remove that color and replace with a color that is not in the visible spectrum so as not to offend me.

[Dexxaan]

Yes, please create an alternate header without the offending clothing.

/roflmmfao


dude he asked for no bashing nicely. if you dont agree dont post. he just wants something that he can put on there that is more appropriate to have on his computer.

Uh... Hello? He hasn't been bashed; You want to see bashed? Wait til DelScorcho windbreaks on him for trying to take away the new content!


Everyone asked for more content. Turbine gave you some contents. Looks like about a D's cup worth.

Now you're sitll complaining.


See? New Content....now why can't everyone be content? :rolleyes:

[rimble]

If anything the flames got the issue noticed very quickly, I doubt another thread was necessary, and realistically I expect them to agree with your point of view and change this (more complaining about the complainers to come at that time).

I'm honestly curious how such sensitive web surfers survive on the internet currently, though. I really don't go to very inappropriate sites and frequently the ads or other things that pop up are even more shocking than a scantily clothed succubus...what then? I guess stay on 'known safe' sites when the kids/family are around? There's got to be tools or browser plugins or something where you can just like Right-Click and Block This Image, or Block This Ad, or Replace This Image With Kittens, or something...? You're not going to be able to petition a change in every instance, it'd be nice to have things within your own control.

[Lerincho]

so aparently so many of you are so set on forcing us to your way, that despite the fact that someone made a request to the moderators of these forums; and respectfully asked for no personal attacks, flames or arguments; none of you can actually show enough respect for another human being to simply agree to disagree?

[Eelpout]

This is a player respectfully asking for another option. How does this in anyway infringe upon, or lessen anyone else's ability to view the current header? It doesn't.

I am happy with the current header and it is fine for me, my family, and at my work (which I shouldn't be messing around on the forums at anyhow). Not everyone feels that way. He already said he games when they are not around to watch the violence on the game or any material HE feels is inappropriate for HIM/THEM.

If he is not asking Turbine to make it so noone can view the header why jump him. Gol already said he phrased his original thread incorrectly.

Save the venom for the book burners, would you?

[Return_To_Forever]

Because it got closed without so much as 1 word to address the actual issue and my PM went ignored.

Censorship is always a touchy issue, best way to go about it, and you prolly know this, is to do it for yourself, which from what I took in on the other thread, you did, and found a solution?

[jmonty]

dude he asked for no bashing nicely. if you dont agree dont post. he just wants something that he can put on there that is more appropriate to have on his computer.

i'm not bashing. just tyring to help.

[Kraldor]

While the header isn't offensive, per say, it's a bit provocative to the eye for people who like to browse the forums at work.

Right now, I'm using Adblock Plus in firefox to block the specific header image. It doesn't look too terrible, just a bit boring.

It'd be nice if we could get the old header images back to use with the rest of the new skin.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/Kraldor/header.png?t=1240436416

[MrWizard]

odd isn't it? It is really the reverse of what you think when people talk of women as objects.

What is exactly is so evil about a partially clad woman?

It seems that it signifies independence and not being controlled...in other words, not being treated as an object or property...and that offends people.


Cleavage is not evil...unless your rogue is specced for great cleave.

[Tarrant]

Because it got closed without so much as 1 word to address the actual issue and my PM went ignored.

Your PM was not ignored. You sent it 25 minutes ago, and it can take a few minutes to notice these things.

Everyone else, knock off the flaming. Either agree or disagree.

[Big-Dex]

Censorship is always a touchy issue, best way to go about it, and you prolly know this, is to do it for yourself, which from what I took in on the other thread, you did, and found a solution?

He didn't ask for censorship. He is not asking that the image be removed, so that noone can choose it. He is asking for another option for those of us who would like that option. Let those who like the image have it. Let those who do not have another option. It really is that simple folks!

Don't be so narrow-minded.

Dex was here.

[Gol]

Your PM was not ignored. You sent it 25 minutes ago, and it can take a few minutes to notice these things.

Everyone else, knock off the flaming. Either agree or disagree.
Yep yep, thanks T.

[arikka_hador]

I like options. I personally don't have a problem with the current image, but I wouldn't mind having the option to put up one of the old headers or something.

That said, since the current one features a lady, I'd like to be able to choose a header that has a really hot guy in it. :p Ya know, it's only fair I think. :p:D

[Pyromaniac]

/disagree, when can we hire the model in game as our hireling? That would remove a lot of plat from the game.

[Tarrant]

Guess what we're not doing in this thread?
Discussing censorship
Attacking one another
Making suggestions like "don't visit the forums" or "grow up"
Saying the game is rated T for Teen

Guess what we are doing?
Agreeing
Disagreeing
Deleting posts and disciplining people that don't play by the rules (Or maybe that's just me and the Cube)

[Alavatar]

I agree. More options are always better.

In fact, I wouldn't mind a basic phpBB silver look, either. :D

[Aussieee]

Because it got closed without so much as 1 word to address the actual issue and my PM went ignored.
I don't think it was ignored,they said that everyone has their own opnion. Which kind of said yeah you can disagree but thats about it.

[bendover]

I don't seem to find it offensive

[Amabel]

The art work on DDO.com is even better!

I'm looking forward to the new mod already. Soft porn FTW!

[HumanRogue]

More options = good.

I don't see how having more options with the forum webpage would be bad for anyone.

[jmonty]

if you dont agree dont post.

lol

[Vorn]

I'll agree--I like the image, would like something in more of a Frazetti myself, but I'd prefer we have available other options like we had with the colors.

[ShaeNightbird]

I don't find the image offensive. But I think giving people the option to change the header themselves, with the forum skin, is a good idea for reasons such as those the Op mentioned.

[Trillea]

Yes I cannot keep looking at the forums here at w0rk if the header does not change.

Please at least give the option of changing.

[dragonruler]

Gol i'm sure due to the amount of attention being made to this thread are gonna come up with something suitable for younger people and others who find stuff like this offensive like yourself a less offensive pic.

you have every right to feel this way and others have the right to disagree. its all just an opinion or moral preference.

/signed

[kudesnik]

I like new image, and design in general, there is no need to have an option.

[Slink]

Per Tarrant,

Disagree with OP.

BTW, LOVE the new header. Must be the Succubii? She is HOT....
/anti-perspirant


I am wondering what the OP will say when this is in the new quest area.
DQ wasnt much different to be honest. Not flaming, just my opinion.

[Kistilan]

id like some optional headers too!

if they can make some tame pg/g ones, they sure can make some nc-17 heavy metal ones for the stags!

please hook me up with one hot demonic succubus with all the leather and lace to keep it out of penthouse but in late night anime :)

[Zippo]

Well apparently my post got eaten by the cube as I was trying to edit to be more diplomatic so I'll try this again. Im ok with turbine adding the option to choose a different skin. However 2 people gave a viable option for you to remove the picture and I'm confused as to why that is not an acceptable option.

[ShaeNightbird]

id like some optional headers too!

if they can make some tame pg/g ones, they sure can make some nc-17 heavy metal ones for the stags!

please hook me up with one hot demonic succubus with all the leather and lace to keep it out of penthouse but in late night anime :)

Be careful what you wish for...:p

[jakeelala]

would be nice to have a different header. wouldn't feel comfortable reading at work with that thing on my screen. we don't all work at fantasy video game software companies...

[sjwalker1973]

id like some optional headers too!

if they can make some tame pg/g ones, they sure can make some nc-17 heavy metal ones for the stags!

please hook me up with one hot demonic succubus with all the leather and lace to keep it out of penthouse but in late night anime :)

Maybe pics from the Book of Erotic Fantasies... hehe.. <-- still have my copy :P

[Amabel]

id like some optional headers too!

if they can make some tame pg/g ones, they sure can make some nc-17 heavy metal ones for the stags!

please hook me up with one hot demonic succubus with all the leather and lace to keep it out of penthouse but in late night anime :)

Hey Kist, you missed my Argo dig in the other thread. Get in there son!

[Kistilan]

Maybe pics from the Book of Erotic Fantasies... hehe.. <-- still have my copy :P

/agree

chicks n chainmail calenders too!!

ps - a scribe writing bt candlelight at the top of the harbor lighthouse would be an appropriate all-audiences header

[Kistilan]

Hey Kist, you missed my Argo dig in the other thread. Get in there son!

you sir are acting as if i had two working arms and the vicarious hunger of a well-fed troll :rolleyes:

donde estan sus escribe?

[Mindspat]

I would like an option to turn off ALL graphics. Something that's just for browsing forums without images would be very nice.

The header image is also a red flag where I work.

[cforce]

I agree. This site has just become work-unfriendly.

QFT, and I think the discussion can start and end here. I like the new art, am not offended, *and* it will prevent me from reading at work, cutting my forum postings by ~80%.

[Sharzade]

Personally, I like the Header and the new forum look.

I don't mind if an option is put in for some forum users to change how the header looks for them, but would like to be able to keep it the way it is on my end.

Live and let live, methinks! ;)

Sharz
:)

[ArkoHighStar]

Per Tarrant,

Disagree with OP.

BTW, LOVE the new header. Must be the Succubii? She is HOT....
/anti-perspirant


I am wondering what the OP will say when this is in the new quest area.
DQ wasnt much different to be honest. Not flaming, just my opinion.

questing is one thing as you can generally control when you quest, and where you quest, but if you wanto visit the forums you are forced to view the one image, no matter when or where you are

[QuantumFX]

I agree with the OP. Some other options would be nice to limit potential wife or boss aggro.

[ArkoHighStar]

Well apparently my post got eaten by the cube as I was trying to edit to be more diplomatic so I'll try this again. Im ok with turbine adding the option to choose a different skin. However 2 people gave a viable option for you to remove the picture and I'm confused as to why that is not an acceptable option.

it requires firefox, which is not an option at some offices

[Damionic]

I ask that the good people of turbine change this eyesore!

The succubi in question is wearing FAR TOO MANY CLOTHES!

I expect this picture to be cencered to allow ALL CLOTHING to be removed as it leaves nothing to the imagination.

Signed

Damionic

[Hokiewa]

/not signed, disagree or whatever is the accepted term

If you are at work, and your employer has various limitations on what you should view, then tough cookies. This is beyond absurd

[Return_To_Forever]

I'm against making options for the sake of people who find the new header offensive.

I'm all for options to make things more personal, and more user friendly, and/or hieghtens connectivity to the game and so forth.

I'm against making options that are more work friendly.

[Missing_Minds]

I would like an option to turn off ALL graphics. Something that's just for browsing forums without images would be very nice.

The header image is also a red flag where I work.

They won't do that, and you know it. But you can always stop images from loading within your own browser options. Well... you should be able to, I don't know if I.E. allows for that or not.

[parvo]

I say give me options for more hot models. But options for none when I'm at work :)

[weyoun]

i think its hot. good job turbine.

[Strakeln]

FYI, folks:

Some of us work in professional environments, most of which tend to be hypersensitive to issues such as discrimination, sexual harassment, intimidation, etc.

Benign as that header image is, chances are there's someone in the office who might take offense - or pretend to take offense, to show off how ultra-PC they are.

Previously, we had a few choices for a forum header, one of which involved a busty sorceress. If you were at work, you could switch to another skin and not worry about some yahoo's hypersensitive PC radar going off.

It behooves Turbine to either replace or provide alternative options to the current header.

[Alavatar]

FYI, folks:

Some of us work in professional environments, most of which tend to be hypersensitive to issues such as discrimination, sexual harassment, intimidation, etc.

Benign as that header image is, chances are there's someone in the office who might take offense - or pretend to take offense, to show off how ultra-PC they are.

Previously, we had a few choices for a forum header, one of which involved a busty sorceress. If you were at work, you could switch to another skin and not worry about some yahoo's hypersensitive PC radar going off.

It behooves Turbine to either replace or provide alternative options to the current header.

QFT

Very eloquently stated, sir. :)

[Alavatar]

Hello! Ever hear of lunch hour, or take breaks?

Or... ever hear of people who use the web for their jobs?

You know what? There's even people that surf this very forum for a living!

Bravo.

I just lol'd. I imagined Tarrant or Tolero getting in trouble for looking at offensive internet material only to explain to their boss that it is a Turbine forum. :D

Edit: I'm not saying I want them to get in trouble. The thought just made me chuckle.

[Zippo]

it requires firefox, which is not an option at some offices

he never stated that being the case. But sadly in this current world its everyone elses responsibility to take actions

[Natalae]

Luv the header

[Airie]

I like options... For example, I would REALLY like the option to download a full-size, high resolution, image of the header with the succubus npc.

Options like that are great. Anyone got a link?

[Pentastic]

I do not feel comfortable bringing this web page up at work anymore, and will not until an alternative skin is permitted. It is not offensive to me, however, I can see how someone could find it offensive to them and as such I have enough respect for my co-workers and employees to not subject them to the possibility of seeing this page.

[Big_Russ]

Yeah, give us the option to replace the header. I won't be surfing the site with my kids around anymore.

On a side note, I find it very odd that Turbine went to the trouble of removing the harlots from Three Barrel Cove to turn around and put this on the forum.

[Airie]

I'll restate my own request: This can be solved by user preferences: Please do NOT waste ANY resources AT ALL with this request.

QFT...
love the atmosphere of the new site, i'd hate to see it changed for (excessive) peecee reasons...

still though... someone link the full image, or Tarrant/Tolero, try to get this one added to the concept art and/or wallpaper media. That'd be super.

[thatguy]

I like it just the way it is, nothing wrong with the new header image. I find it tantalizing.

[QuantumFX]

QFT...
love the atmosphere of the new site, i'd hate to see it changed for (excessive) peecee reasons...

still though... someone link the full image, or Tarrant/Tolero, try to get this one added to the concept art and/or wallpaper media. That'd be super.

No one’s saying that they should get rid of it. They want an option to change it to another forum header. It’s really not that hard to code.

[Aspenor]

Uhhhhh /signed

DDO = AoC?????? :confused:

[Lerincho]

Disclaimer: This is not a flame, but I AM allowed to state my opinion on the request.

Can the Web team please work on = anything else =, including but not limited to random code scribblings on notepad, before you devote time to this request? Thanks.

web design team and other developers are completely seperate as was stated previously by Tolero

[Giantsbane]

While I have no problem with the image, I respect Gol's opinion and agree that an option would be a good idea.

[Kistilan]

Uhhhhh /signed

:confused:

napkin? sounds fun!

/signed for pg/g

[Retsam]

http://content.turbine.com/sites/forums.ddo.com/images/ddo_mod3/header.jpg

you use firefox?..

download the adblock plus addon, and block that address.. problem solved.

[Riorik]

Nice +3 Impact Maces of Pure Good there.

[Dark_Helmet]

I would like an option to turn off ALL graphics. Something that's just for browsing forums without images would be very nice.

The header image is also a red flag where I work.

Yes, it would be nice to get quick loading pages that can be read on ipods and such. Also, turn off the signatures by default: I hate having to log in to have them turned off.

[thatguy]

What percent of the staff does that? It sounds a bit like all of them which is a Yikes! :p

Sharz

The problem is, there is no local PC policy in place at all. I could create one, which I have but it is over written by the network policy, which is very weak. The network staff puts all there eggs in Border manager, which is a Novell product and sucks plus some other site blocking script which also sucks. On top of all that, every one is an Admin on there PC's. Which causes a host of other problems. There is no need for that except in some cases where legacy apps need admin rights in order to run. We where finally given the go ahead to remove admin rights and make everyone users which is long over due and I do with great pleasure, especially to those I have said "don't do that" till I was blue in the face. This blocks folks from installing software and generally makes my job much easier. However, since there is no local PC policy in place the existing applications in the image such as Windows Media player are used to stream music, they learned that they can stream music right through windows media player, windowsmedia.com is apparently not blocked. Why do people need wmv to work? The vast majority DON'T, most of them answer phones and rubber stamp papers all day. All I wanted to do was create a policy where everything was the same, which is the way it SHOULD BE! All of this happening on segments that run 10 half. And most of the switches that are here are like 6 or 7 years old. All of these people had telex machines when I first came here and that was all they needed. My job as a consultant was to replace all the telex's with GX-270's. With no local policy in place and the internet for the first time, these people went nuts. Productivity dropped and never really came back to pre PC days. The GX-270's are another story entirely with there crappy motherboards that kept me busy for about a year after installation because of bad capacitors.

So, that's pretty much my job in a nutshell. Not to mention resetting passwords and general phone work, which I really loathe.

[bellack]

Yes, please create an alternate header without the offending clothing.

/sign the clothing ha got to go. And as an added request can we get a full body shot, being able to only see half the body offends me.

[jmonty]

http://content.turbine.com/sites/forums.ddo.com/images/ddo_mod3/header.jpg

you use firefox?..

download the adblock plus addon, and block that address.. problem solved.

you win at the internet! congrats. :D

[bellack]

I do not feel comfortable bringing this web page up at work anymore, and will not until an alternative skin is permitted. It is not offensive to me, however, I can see how someone could find it offensive to them and as such I have enough respect for my co-workers and employees to not subject them to the possibility of seeing this page.

What are you guys doing just looking at the header and not scrollong through reading the forum. When the header comes up I scroll down until it is gone from the screen. No one can see it. It is up maybe 1/2 a second. I also don't blow the screen to full screen. Seriously I don't see how you can get in trouble with this unless you just leave the header up for all to see.

[daelina]

EDIT - Not worth my time.

[Tarrant]

I just lol'd. I imagined Tarrant or Tolero getting in trouble for looking at offensive internet material only to explain to their boss that it is a Turbine forum. :D


Similar conversations have occurred. :)

[DelScorcho]

Uh... Hello? He hasn't been bashed; You want to see bashed? Wait til DelScorcho windbreaks on him for trying to take away the new content!


Too many Moderators, too few remaining infraction points. :D I'm going to sit this thread out ... :D

[akla_thornfist]

i agree with gol give us some options so we can continue viewing ddo at work during breaks and such. i do love the new header but not at work.

[Retsam]

oh and as far as people not liking to have to log in to remove the sigs..

http://ddosigs.*.turbine.com/*

toss that into the addblock plus filters too ^_^

[Anastasios]

Indifference is bliss...now throw us a Drama section already.

All this hype over a header...I think we know who the real culprits in this case are...I've got a rough sketch of an alternate header already to replace that succubus.

A cube, a squirrel, Richard Johnson and an Almond walking along a yellow brick road towards The Twelve. Now that's a header...If you only had a brain.

LET THEM EAT CAKE...

[Bladededge123]

Alternatives are always good.

That said I am guessing the new header is a mod 9 preview, ala we are going to see succubi in the new content which will be nice. After all the front of the box/intro movie has a very scantily clad sorceress.

At the same time, said sorcerer more or less appears no where in the game, and I don't believe any of our toons have the option to dress like that :P (awesome as that would be for us young-adult males).

In the end though, people are having problems at work. The fact is we are may well see a drastic drop in a subsection of the forum population. I wasn't aware of the option for the sorceress picture in the past but, if it existed, then the option to change things existed in the past. Simply adding the above to the list and opening it up back up as an option can't be that hard?

There -will- however always be a subsection of the population that won't be able to come to the forums/won't wish to do so anymore, without the option to change things to something more appropriate to their situation. That's bad.

So I am all for keeping the new header! I don't really see anyone asking for it to be removed/taken down. But please allow the option to change it for those who need it.

[moops]

I just want to know where the Fabio type man is. . . .I'm sure there is a Barbarian out there willing to go shirtless and show off all his muscles.

Seriously thouugh-- please, for those of us who read at work and with kids around, an alternate image would be nice

[Anastasios]

I just want to know where the Fabio type man is. . . .I'm sure there is a Barbarian out there willing to go shirtless and show off all his muscles.

Seriously thouhg-- please, for those of us who read at work and with kids around, an alternate image would be nice

Fabio plays on Argo under the name Maldor...we just call him Damo though.

He'll send pics for a price from what I understand...

[Nirvana]

Damo said he would show off unless you pay me 100k pp.

What I don't understand is people know it's not right to view off-work site at work, yet still want to...

[thatguy]

Damo said he would show off unless you pay me 100k pp.

What I don't understand is people know it's not right to view off-work site at work, yet still want to...


Yes this is cause of much confusion for me. If they do have time to go here during work then maybe they need more work to do. :D

[Alavatar]

Yes this is cause of much confusion for me. If they do have time to go here during work then maybe they need more work to do. :D

Breaks and lunch.

[Harncw]

agreed

gonna have a hard time explaining to my daughter why there is a succubus at the top of the website that daddy always goes to...

not that she doesnt make me feel all funny deep inside.

[Strakeln]

Yes this is cause of much confusion for me.Really? You want to claim confusion over such a simple topic?

Suit yourself. At least this way we know in the future to not bother trying to explain simple things to you.

[geoffhanna]

We used to have multiple choices. I always used the cleavage sorceress, because I like to think of sorceresses as being all full of cleavage.

But someone else could choose the armor-y paladin if they were of the armor-preferring persuasion.

That does seem like a superior solution. Choice = good.

[Cendaer]

This is all so preposterous.

You see more at the beach, river, or lake, than you do on the new forum header.

...unless, of course, you and/or your family do not leave the nerd-cave to participate in such activities (which is a whole 'nother topic in and of itself)...

[Lerincho]

so because HE wants to be able to have the OPTION to turn it off, and others have expressed similar concerns especially those that are on the forums at work; we should flame and be completely disrespectful?

absolutely a sad and remarkably selfish community these types of behaviors display.

[Phidius]

I just want to know where the Fabio type man is. . . .I'm sure there is a Barbarian out there willing to go shirtless and show off all his muscles.

Seriously thouugh-- please, for those of us who read at work and with kids around, an alternate image would be nice

If I refuse to post my pic on the Sarlona "See who you're talking to" thread, why would I let them put it on the header of the forums?


:D


It's been around 15 years since anyone's called me Fabio, though. And about 50 pounds...



/signed, please remove the offensive clothing... but leave the succubus... and scroll down a tad, please.

[TEK]

Personally i like the new look. As long as im a man hot women drawn or real will never offend me in a manner of looks pertaining to material things that can easily be removed :D

Ialso don't mind having another option to choose multiple headers for the insecure,however the majority of excuses i've heard deals with not being able to view the forums when ur supposed to be working. In which case if I were the Devs I wouldnt even entertain the idea of granting the OP's request since it would mean less people to insult them during the day when their supposed to be working instead of pacifying you. ;)

[Zippo]

Really? You want to claim confusion over such a simple topic?

Suit yourself. At least this way we know in the future to not bother trying to explain simple things to you.

Now see you completely misquoted him. He said that he was confused as to why people think its ok to do non work things while on work time and hes right. That concept confuses me as well.

[Lerincho]

Now see you completely misquoted him. He said that he was confused as to why people think its ok to do non work things while on work time and hes right. That concept confuses me as well.


because Australian researchers discovered employees that surf the web at work are more focused and productive while at work.

[TEK]

Now see you completely misquoted him. He said that he was confused as to why people think its ok to do non work things while on work time and hes right. That concept confuses me as well.

well that I understand. What I dont understand is why people are so upset at TURBINE because they're own company wouldnt want them looking at a clothed cartoon in a place they KNOW they arent supposed to be.

Why dont they try yelling at them instead :rolleyes:

[ahpook]

I just lol'd. I imagined Tarrant or Tolero getting in trouble for looking at offensive internet material only to explain to their boss that it is a Turbine forum. :D

Edit: I'm not saying I want them to get in trouble. The thought just made me chuckle.

/Total Digression
This reminds me of the time that an IT person came by our cubicles to lecture the graphic designer I was working with about looking at inappropriate websites at work. He politely explained that looking at sites like Penthouse and Playboy were bad and he would have to make a report if the activity continued.

We laughed.

Then SHE politely explained that our company (a cable provider) sold the playboy channel and the penthouse channel to our customers and that she had to go those web sites to get branding and images that we could use on our web site.

/Total digression off

I have no problem with options on the header image. I think those that react negatively to such a request are doing so because they don't want to see decisions that the succubus image is offensive drifting into our game. We don't want the game less adult oriented.

[Lolikins]

Disable images. Real browsers have actual tools for this (such as AdBlock for Firefox), but you can do it in IE too.

[Chromus]

so because HE wants to be able to have the OPTION to turn it off, and others have expressed similar concerns especially those that are on the forums at work; we should flame and be completely disrespectful?

absolutely a sad and remarkably selfish community these types of behaviors display.



Do you honestly believe that picture is NSFW?

How about this, when you're at work, if your boss is so uptight he will get mad about that image, maybe you should be working instead of browsing forums.

It could be worse, maybe you could have a party with lemons or get into a tub with a girl.

:)

[vyrank]

It is inappropriate for work and occasionally while needing a few minute brain soak break, I would occasionaly look at the forums. I would not do that now.

DDO has been my home page for years. I really don't feel comfortable with it like it is now. I also would like an option.

[Onesikpup]

Inappropiate or not, dont really care.

Almost every forum I belong to has options to change the skins. What would be sooo difficult about having this here? I would just like the option. DDO changes the skins/colors pretty frequently, why cant we select something that is more pleasing to our own eyes? Red, while visually appealing, is hard for me to read. Im not saying make up a bunch of skins, but rather make the other ones, from previous times, available.

[FluffyCalico]

Because it got closed without so much as 1 word to address the actual issue and my PM went ignored.

Sounds like a pretty clear answer to me.

The image is pg. Meaning elementry school and up. We should not have people on the forums who can't handle PG content

Can we get the image as an avatar for the forums?

[birminghampiper]

Yes give people a choice if it will keep the Succubus header image on my screen.
Great art, saw some Succubus bones in the new area but no live ones. Next mod?


without the personal attacks this time. No opinions, no arguments, just requesting options.

[Nott]

Anyone complaining in this thread has OBVIOUSLY never seen a 1st edition Monster Manual. Wimps!


This is all so preposterous.

You see more at the beach, river, or lake, than you do on the new forum header.

...unless, of course, you and/or your family do not leave the nerd-cave to participate in such activities (which is a whole 'nother topic in and of itself)...These two posters seem to not understand a significant point. The issue is not necessarily that the OP (or any other player -- though sure there are some) is offended by the content. The issue is that some people, when reading the forums from some locations, have reasons to not want that image on screen. Noone has asked for censorship, only options.



Now see you completely misquoted him. He said that he was confused as to why people think its ok to do non work things while on work time and hes right. That concept confuses me as well.Why would you feel confused about someone else's work habits, when you're well aware that you really have no idea what their work habits or requirements are? Have you considered that there's a possibility that some people are freely able to browse web sites at work, as long as their responsibilities are being met? How about the possibility that while they are able to browse, the content they browse could cause issues and so they're required to self-restrict where they browse? How about the possibility that some people prefer to limit the imagery while browsing from home -- not for their own censorship, but so their children are a little shielded? Or that frankly there can be hundreds of reasons extending beyond the viewer to limit what appears on screen, and all the OP asked for was choice?

Back on topic, I agree that there should be a choice -- preferably one stored in a cookie rather than account profile... after all, many people that browse from work also browse from home and may have location-based preferences.

[Lerincho]

Do you honestly believe that picture is NSFW?

How about this, when you're at work, if your boss is so uptight he will get mad about that image, maybe you should be working instead of browsing forums.

It could be worse, maybe you could have a party with lemons or get into a tub with a girl.

:)

it is not up to me whether or not this is not work appropriate. it is up to each individual employer and to how sensative the atmosphere of the work environment is to sexual harassment issues.

maybe YOU don't find it offensive, maybe your neighbor doesn't find it offensive, but how many does it take to start a sexual harassment claim based on hostile workplace environment? Only takes ONE to be offend to have the process for sexual harassment claim to be initiated.

[Olympia]

because Australian researchers discovered employees that surf the web at work are more focused and productive while at work.

/off-topic on

until published in peer-reviewed and respected journals (and this (http://www.deloosh.com.au/blog/) does not count), coker's work amounts to little apart from some nice publicity for a young guy trying to make a career. perhaps his study methodology is sound and his conclusions valid, but it is *way* too early to start quoting his conclusions as fact.

a more likely scenerio re: work-based internet usage and productivity is summarized here. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29601)

/off-topic off

pursuant to the OP...i hope he gets what he wishes for. simply asking (in a non-inflammatory way) for a way to change his forum banner appearance really shouldn't bother anyone and is unworthy of discussion. there is no censorship debate to be had here, so pls move along...

[Strakeln]

Now see you completely misquoted him. He said that he was confused as to why people think its ok to do non work things while on work time and hes right. That concept confuses me as well.I didn't misquote him at all.

Most (possibly all) states have laws specifying minimum amounts of time for breaks/lunches. Meaning, it's not an assumption that during the day, people are doing non-work things... it's a legal requirement.

People have explained - in this thread, multiple times - the concept of breaks and lunches to him, but prefers to claim confusion. Do you care to join him?

[~Jules921]

I like options. I personally don't have a problem with the current image, but I wouldn't mind having the option to put up one of the old headers or something.

That said, since the current one features a lady, I'd like to be able to choose a header that has a really hot guy in it. :p Ya know, it's only fair I think. :p:D

Yes more hot guys - like some of the ones from the movie 300 :D :D :eek: :D :D Fair is fair.

Jules

[Kistilan]

Yes more hot guys - like some of the ones from the movie 300 :D :D :eek: :D :D Fair is fair.

Jules

*flexes* look no further

[Zippo]

I didn't misquote him at all.

Most (possibly all) states have laws specifying minimum amounts of time for breaks/lunches. Meaning, it's not an assumption that during the day, people are doing non-work things... it's a legal requirement.

People have explained - in this thread, multiple times - the concept of breaks and lunches to him, but prefers to claim confusion. Do you care to join him?

YES you did. You quoted half of his statement to meet your own half-cocked agenda on this thread. Believe me I understand the concept of breaks and lunches but you fail to see that when your on the company dime you should be contributing to the company gains not surfing the DDO forums as it were in this case. So to me the thought processes that lead someone to believe that it is acceptable to behave in that manner is confusing to me yes. So do you care to join the mass of people across the world with a **** poor work ethic?

Nuff said

[Strakeln]

Believe me I understand the concept of breaks and lunches but you fail to see that when your on the company dime you should be contributing to the company gains not surfing the DDO forums as it were in this case.Besides being completely irrelevant as to whether or not header image options should be provided... how can you claim to understand the concept of breaks and lunches, then turn around and start talking about being on the company dime? There is clearly something in this concept that is not coming through for you.

And for what must be the eightieth time, until you know what someone does for a living, and who they do it for, you simply cannot claim to know whether or not what they are doing is considered acceptable or not.

[Strakeln]

YES you did.And as far as misquoting goes... I think you need to re-read the post that you originally took offense to. Or perhaps you need to re-read the entire thread, so that you can properly understand the context of my response. I didn't misquote anything, I and I didn't warp anything into a twisted agenda. My response was a continuation of an ongoing discussion that you apparently failed to pick up on.

If it helps you, pretend that I put the entire quote in instead of just the snippet. My response remains the same, but might provide the context you fail to see.

[Roberto]

My opinion - as long as creating additional options does not take away from other work (including the compendium), I don't object to options.

[ice33b]

I fail to see where its Turbine's responsibility to make sure that our workspace is free of any kind of sexual harassment claim. That responsibility lies with the individual browsing, not the company who owns the website you are viewing. If you feel uncomfortable with the pixelated figure of a fictional creature set within an entirely fictional realm of fantasy, dont view the website at work. There are literally trillions of other websites to view while you are on your 15min smoke break or 1hr lunch.

And before anyone says that people's opinions are irrelevant to the discussion yet again, recognize that Turbine probably feels that your opinion is irrelevant as well. Its their game, its their website/forums, its their choice what images to place on it. While you are at it, go email the design team at Gamespy, WoTC, and literally every other website that has anything to do with video games including D&D because I'm sure they have things on their frontpage that certain people might consider NSFW.

Maybe you all should stick to reading the WSJ on your break time. Unless all that talk about blowing money offends you as well...

[branmakmuffin]

And before anyone says that people's opinions are irrelevant to the discussion yet again, recognize that Turbine probably feels that your opinion is irrelevant as well. Its their game, its their website/forums, its their choice what images to place on it.
They'd care if people started quitting over it. Not gonna happen, but they'd care if it did.

Once again, someone has failed to grasp the actual issue: as a general rule, options are good.

[arikka_hador]

Once again, someone has failed to grasp the actual issue: as a general rule, options are good.

It may be true that options are good, and I'm all for options, but the question is: Will Turbine take the 5 minutes or whatever to allow it, or will they just say, "It's not that big a deal, /ignore."?

[branmakmuffin]

It may be true that options are good, and I'm all for options, but the question is: Will Turbine take the 5 minutes or whatever to allow it, or will they just say, "It's not that big a deal, /ignore."?
If that's what they do, that's what they do. It's unlikely such a decision will lead to mass departure of shocked prudes.

[WorldTraveler]

This is a request thread and a politely worded one at that. So it is not the place to try and argue against or for someone's point of view.
The sites having previously had an ability to change skins pretty much proves that the work to bring that back probably amounts to a copy
paste operation at most. There's no way it will "take away from other work" in some major way.

He asked for support in having an option, not in removing the image entirely, to me, it's a no brainer:
totally signed. Don't have to agree with his view to agree with his request.

[samagee]

Find the image file in your cache and replace it. Mark it read only if you need to.

[Hokiewa]

This issue has been resolved. This thread dies...

NOW!

[Tamryn]

Guess what we're not doing in this thread?
Discussing censorship
Attacking one another
Making suggestions like "don't visit the forums" or "grow up"
Saying the game is rated T for Teen

Guess what we are doing?
Agreeing
Disagreeing
Deleting posts and disciplining people that don't play by the rules (Or maybe that's just me and the Cube)

Where can I get the original full image? :)

[Tamryn]

He didn't ask for censorship. He is not asking that the image be removed, so that noone can choose it. He is asking for another option for those of us who would like that option. Let those who like the image have it. Let those who do not have another option. It really is that simple folks!

Don't be so narrow-minded.

Dex was here.

Use the options available to you by your browser.

[Giantsbane]

back Off Guys!!!!

I Agree With Gol. Giving An Option Is Not A Bad Thing. It Doesn't Force His View On You And Your View Is Not Forced On Him. Its A Two-way Street. You Like The Current Image .. Choose It. He Likes Something Less Provocative, He Can Choose It.

So Give The Guy A Break And Let His Opinion, Which Is Shared By Others, Be Voiced Without Your Lame Trolling! Go Tell Ddo How Much You Like The New Header Image In the Other Thread That Is Up For That Purpose (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=180602). Leave This One For Those Who Would Like An Option.

Simple. Fair. Respectful. 'nuff Said.

Dex Was Here.

/signed

[Lerincho]

i prefer the other thread related to this subject. much better material in there :D

[Giantsbane]

This issue has been resolved. This thread dies...

NOW!

Who died and made you the Forum Nazi?

[Lerincho]

Who died and made you the Forum Nazi?

brandmuffin maybe.

[Dymond]

I also agree with the OP. I'm also not offended by the hot succubi but like many others I do peruse the forums at work while waiting for downloads to complete and installations to finish and it is a bit risque for a work environment. Heck if we are asking I would KILL for non black background environment that doesn't scream 'I'm looking at personal websites from work!!'. I can also tell when my other techs are screwing off if I see a website with a black background. :)

[Lerincho]

we are sorry this thread has been permanently derailed. please climb aboard http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=2235712&posted=1#post2235712 thread. ride is much more enjoyable :D