2HF buffed in mod 9

[FluffyCalico]

Everyone has been saying 2wf was overpowered and 2Hf was underpowered. Well the transmutting change helps narrow the gap between the two of them.

[Borror0]

Well the transmutting change helps narrow the gap between the two of them.
How?

[FluffyCalico]

How?

2hw does more damage per swing
2wf does more swings

DR works on each swing

2hf looses a smaller percentage of their DPS to DR that isn't bypassed

You seem to love #s roll up a fake barb or fighter and do the math.

[Borror0]

2hf looses a smaller percentage of their DPS to DR that isn't bypassed
Why not just switch to something that bypass the DR instead?

Oh, and even if the mobs had DR 15/- (I think that was the number I ran the calculations with - but my memory could be wrong), TWF would still be ahead (assuming Inspire Courage). The gap just is ridiculously huge.

[FluffyCalico]

Why not just switch to something that bypass the DR instead?

Oh, and even if the mobs had DR 15/- (I think that was the number I ran the calculations with - but my memory could be wrong), TWF would still be ahead (assuming Inspire Courage). The gap just is ridiculously huge.

1) If finding something just as good that bypasses DR is easy then there are about 10000 transmutting complaint threads that need to be deleted
2) Did not say that 2HF was now better or even equal. Just closer.

And I expect elite level 20 raid boss to have a hell of alot more than any 15 dr.

[Borror0]

1) If finding something just as good that bypasses DR is easy then there are about 10000 transmutting complaint threads that need to be deleted
People don't like having their toys taken away. Honestly, it's not that bad.

It affects THF and TWF, in that aspect.

And I expect elite level 20 raid boss to have a hell of alot more than any 15 dr.
Mineral II will cover that. He'll have DR/Good and DR/Silver.

[Aesop]

Mineral II will cover that. He'll have DR/Good and DR/Silver.

If the Raid involves a Devil it will anyway.

If it involves an outsider we should be fine with Min II... unless it requires DR/Epic... then we all need something new

Aesop

[SimVerg]

Mineral II will cover that. He'll have DR/Good and DR/Silver.

You didn't know those runes he has give him dr/********?

[Gadget2775]

Everyone has been saying 2wf was overpowered and 2Hf was underpowered. Well the transmutting change helps narrow the gap between the two of them.

Pretty sure it actually hurts THF more. Unless it's hidden somewhere in mod 9 there aren't any piercing two-handed weapon in the game. This means that THF'ing spec'd characters will have to switch to single hand mode in order to bypass DR/Pierce. Unless of course the whole magical effect on glancing blows rocks enough to make up for using a slashing/blunt against DR/Piercing.

Of course it's the same hit Ranged characters and Monks are taking...

[BlackSteel]

Oh, and even if the mobs had DR 15/- (I think that was the number I ran the calculations with - but my memory could be wrong), TWF would still be ahead (assuming Inspire Courage). The gap just is ridiculously huge.

Stop using autoattack.

[bellack]

Why not just switch to something that bypass the DR instead?

Oh, and even if the mobs had DR 15/- (I think that was the number I ran the calculations with - but my memory could be wrong), TWF would still be ahead (assuming Inspire Courage). The gap just is ridiculously huge.

I have an idea, how about they use the 3.5 rules from a PnP game I like to call Dungeon and Dragons.

[Shade]

Everyone has been saying 2wf was overpowered and 2Hf was underpowered. Well the transmutting change helps narrow the gap between the two of them.

Nah not everyone. There is at least one guy who says THF is still quite good.

More DR could be in two handeds favor. But it would really have to be DR/- or DR/epic to really effect everyone.

Mod9 is mostly devils and some demons right.. So in generally the DR should be silver/good for devils and cold iron/good for demons.. Both of which are bypassed by a certain overpowered weapon obtained in the shroud we won't talk about.

However there might be some mobs with more specialization DRs like lawful or chaotic, so more traditional weapons will be useful against them. Hopefully lots.

[Borror0]

Nah not everyone. There is at least one guy who says THF is still quite good.
The same guy who said that rogues could only expect to deal about 10% as much damage in melee as a barbarian (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=1398095#post1398095).

I think it is safe to say that person has a tendency to overestimate his characters' performance.

[ghettoGenius]

Pretty sure it actually hurts THF more. Unless it's hidden somewhere in mod 9 there aren't any piercing two-handed weapon in the game. This means that THF'ing spec'd characters will have to switch to single hand mode in order to bypass DR/Pierce. Unless of course the whole magical effect on glancing blows rocks enough to make up for using a slashing/blunt against DR/Piercing.

Of course it's the same hit Ranged characters and Monks are taking...

Well make spears. Twice as long as a man.

[Monkey_Archer]

Stop using autoattack.

Your barbarian is an example... and example never constitutes proof of any kind.
The gap is HUGE.

Barbarians are the ONLY class where the THF vs TWF gap is smaller.