Healing Amplification???

[rezo]

Dose anyone know if this stacks with raid items and/or the dragon touched armor???

[Borror0]

Tried this (http://tinyurl.com/cujfkm)?

[vtecfiend99]

Tried this (http://tinyurl.com/cujfkm)?

Jeez, I don't know did you try this (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Smart+Ass)?

[KaKa]

Dose anyone know if this stacks with raid items and/or the dragon touched armor???

It appears that they mostly do stack.

[Borror0]

It appears that they mostly do stack.
They don't.

[KaKa]

They don't.

They do. Wow that was easy.

Healing gets progressively better by adding more healing amplification. Please explain this phenomenon.

[Borror0]

They do. Wow that was easy.

Healing gets progressively better by adding more healing amplification. Please explain this phenomenon.
Healing Amplification from Levik's Bracer do not stack with the bonus from Green Steel and Dragontouched armor because they are of the same bonus type.

Try it. Equip one of a Green Steel weapon with Healing Amplification weapon, Levik's Bracer and Dragontouched Armor with Healing Amplification. Ask someone to cast Heal on you and note the result. Then, equip one of a Green Steel weapon with Healing Amplification weapon, Levik's Bracer and Dragontouched Armor with Healing Amplification. The second item must have a lower Healing Amplification bonus than the first one.

Finally, ask someone to cast Heal on you one last time. If the amount healed is higher, then Healing Amplification stacks with itself.

Though, I'll prevent you from wasting your time by telling you it won't stack (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=164601).

[MondoGrunday]

Jeez, I don't know did you try this (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Smart+Ass)?

hehe

[KaKa]

Yes same bonuses don't stack, but Try putting on a 20% item casting heal and then add a 10% the number gets bigger, isn't that stacking? I have done it, have you?

The other guys post proves stacking. Numbers get bigger, not the same. If thats not stacking what is it? I'll call it that from now on.

[vyvy3369]

...Though, I'll prevent you from wasting your time by telling you it won't stack (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=164601).
It's pretty odd that you're linking to my thread, and then describing something different than how it actually works.

You seem to be taking "Healing Amplification items of the same bonus DO NOT stack. For example, Levik's Bracers and a Tempest 20% Healing Amplification on Dragontouched Armor does not stack with each other." to mean that no Healing Amplification items stack, which isn't the case - you can have one of each bonus stack with each other. Dragontouched Armor also has a 10% that DOES stack with 20% from Bracers for example.

The various enhancements all seem to stack multiplicatively with each other and items (excluding the Finger Necklace, which I'm still convinced is a bug (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2049170&postcount=492), but never got a dev comment on it).

[Borror0]

[...] you can have one of each bonus stack with each other.
That must have changed since Module 6 (as far as I can remember, Healing Amplification of different bonuses did not stack back then).

Well, you learn everyday.

[FluffyCalico]

It's pretty odd that you're linking to my thread, and then describing something different than how it actually works.

You seem to be taking "Healing Amplification items of the same bonus DO NOT stack. For example, Levik's Bracers and a Tempest 20% Healing Amplification on Dragontouched Armor does not stack with each other." to mean that no Healing Amplification items stack, which isn't the case - you can have one of each bonus stack with each other. Dragontouched Armor also has a 10% that DOES stack with 20% from Bracers for example.

The various enhancements all seem to stack multiplicatively with each other and items (excluding the Finger Necklace, which I'm still convinced is a bug (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2049170&postcount=492), but never got a dev comment on it).

So they stack in the weird way dodge stacks?

[vtecfiend99]

That must have changed since Module 6 (as far as I can remember, Healing Amplification of different bonuses did not stack back then).

Well, you learn everyday.

OMFG... Someone call Hell and ask the Devil if it's snowing....... OMG really, I can't believe I just read that. Did you admit you were WRONG!?!?! Holy ****ing ****!


Mark your calendars folks, someone must have drugged him I don't think you will see this again.

EDIT:

oh yeah:

It's pretty odd that you're linking to my thread, and then describing something different than how it actually works.


PWNED!!!

[Roman]

OMFG... Someone call Hell and ask the Devil if it's snowing....... OMG really, I can't believe I just read that. Did you admit you were WRONG!?!?! Holy ****ing ****!


Mark your calendars folks, someone must have drugged him I don't think you will see this again.

EDIT:

oh yeah:



PWNED!!!

Screenshot!

[vyvy3369]

That must have changed since Module 6 (as far as I can remember, Healing Amplification of different bonuses did not stack back then).

Well, you learn everyday.
Yeah, I think I mentioned that in there actually. I was helping Kargon test this way back when he first made one, and thought that was the case too for a long time. Heck, I still thought Freezing Ice was junk until I heard people talking about how great it was on Dragontouched...they really need to publish those types of changes, but they don't ever seem to make it into the release notes.

[vtecfiend99]

Screenshot!

I know right? Would love to have seen his face after being a such a dewsh with comments like:


Tried this (http://tinyurl.com/cujfkm)?

And the always wonderful, I am too good to explain myself:


They don't.


Maybe a day will go by where he realizes he is not the source of all knowledge in the universe? Probably not haha.

[vyvy3369]

So they stack in the weird way dodge stacks?
Except for the Finger Necklace, yeah. I'd expect that if we ever see a 40%, or items with like 15% they would also stack.

The current max IIRC is just over 300% healing for a human monk, and I know I've seen well over 2k from a Heal spell on Henry (Dwarf 16 Fighter) who has all 3 levels and occasionally swaps in a Finger necklace.

[Missing_Minds]

Yes same bonuses don't stack, but Try putting on a 20% item casting heal and then add a 10% the number gets bigger, isn't that stacking? I have done it, have you?

The other guys post proves stacking. Numbers get bigger, not the same. If thats not stacking what is it? I'll call it that from now on.

If the 10% is the finger necklace, it has a different named bonus, and hence will stack as I have written. Read below.

Now granted, it isn't exactly stacking. The finger necklace can give a lto of hp back IF you put things on in the proper order. There is another thread out there that actually goes through the math.

[Borror0]

Did you admit you were WRONG!?!?!
I have no problem in doing so when I am.

[Borror0]

I'd expect that if we ever see a 40%, or items with like 15% they would also stack.
Seems like a shortsighted decision from their part.

[rezo]

Thx for the infor.

[Missing_Minds]

If you want more information on how the healing amplification works, I suggest you read these two threads. They contain more details than my own guide on this particular matter.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=174765

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=164601

[rezo]

Thx you "Missing Minds", it was helpful.

[Shal]

Tried this (http://tinyurl.com/cujfkm)?


Jeez, I don't know did you try this (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Smart+Ass)?roflmao!

[MrCow]

That must have changed since Module 6 (as far as I can remember, Healing Amplification of different bonuses did not stack back then).

Back in Module 6 the only healing amplification item we had was a greensteel weapon (well, and the finger necklace, but it is different in its own way). Considering that healing amplifications of different percentages don't stack on the same item, its not surprising that you thought that way.

[vyvy3369]

Back in Module 6 the only healing amplification item we had was a greensteel weapon (well, and the finger necklace, but it is different in its own way). Considering that healing amplifications of different percentages don't stack on the same item, its not surprising that you thought that way.
I'm pretty sure that they do stack on the same item, at least in regards to Dragontouched - I'm fairly certain I had both 10% and 20% on my Dragontouched armor at one point and was getting the benefit from both.

[MrCow]

I'm pretty sure that they do stack on the same item, at least in regards to Dragontouched - I'm fairly certain I had both 10% and 20% on my Dragontouched armor at one point and was getting the benefit from both.

One of my 'forged has a docent setup like this. I'll go get numbers for you if you wish.

[Borror0]

Considering that healing amplifications of different percentages don't stack on the same item, its not surprising that you thought that way.
What an odd way to make things stack...

[MrCow]

Numbers based off of a 13th level Warforged Cleric with Healer's Friend I, Life Magic IV, no potency:

No healing amp: 118
Math: Base 130 * 1.4 Life Magic * (0.65 Warforged Divine Healing)

Healing amp 10% + 20% from same item (Dragontouched Docent): 156
Math: Base 130 * 1.4 Life Magic * (0.65 Warforged Divine Healing * 1.1 Amp * 1.2 Amp)


You have proven me wrong (or even better, I proved it wrong to myself :)). It does stack on the same item.

[Roman]

I'm pretty sure that they do stack on the same item, at least in regards to Dragontouched - I'm fairly certain I had both 10% and 20% on my Dragontouched armor at one point and was getting the benefit from both.

I have DT docent with 30% 20% 10% and they do indeed stack on a single item.

[tihocan]

You have proven me wrong
Quoted for emphasis and possible re-use out of context :D