CC + Heavy Repeater Bard Build

[wahrheit]

I'm thinking of rolling a bard (they seem sexy after a quest I was on a few minutes ago with a few people). I just recently unlocked drow (I don't really want to drive up to 1750 favor on my current toon).

The idea I want to go with is to CC with a bit of damage support via heavy repeaters. I played around with the character planner and this is what I came up with. Please give me feedback, flame me, tell me I'm a moron, etc....:-D

The 4 major skills I'm looking at maxing out are:
Balance (I'm tired of getting tripped, anyone know what the max you need end-game is?)

Concentrate -- I'm assuming that missing with the charms, etc are going to **** stuff off.

Dip -- See Concentrate.

Jump -- Just fun to have a lot of jump laying around

Perform -- (this one is a 'duh' one)

Tumble -- I'm going high dex anyway, so why not

UMD -- Wands, equipment, raise dead scrolls, etc.

As such, I think I need about a 14 int (at least my math said I need a 14 to get these skills maxed + a few extra points laying around)


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.00
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Level 16 True Neutral Drow Female
(16 Bard)
Hit Points: 132
Spell Points: 780
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 6
Reflex: 14
Will: 9

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16) (Level 16)
Strength 10 10 10
Dexterity 16 16 18
Constitution 12 12 12
Intelligence 14 14 14
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 18 22 25

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16) (Level 16)
Balance 3 23 23
Bluff 4 7 7
Concentration 5 20 24
Diplomacy 8 26 26
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 4 10 10
Heal 1 1 1
Hide 3 4 4
Intimidate 4 7 7
Jump 4 19 19
Listen 1 3 5
Move Silently 3 4 4
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform 8 26 28
Repair 2 2 2
Search 2 2 4
Spot -1 -1 1
Swim 4 5 5
Tumble 7 23 23
Use Magic Device 6 26 28

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+2)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 2 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity I


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Light Crossbow
Spell (1): Charm Person
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Heroism


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Otto's Resistable Dance
Spell (2): Hypnotic Pattern
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Haste
Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
Enhancement: Bard Concentration II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Charm Monster
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Spell Penetration I


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Enhancement: Spellsinger I


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Dominate Person


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Enhancement: Bard Charisma III


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Hold Monster
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Mind Fog
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Enhancement: Bard Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Greater Shout
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music IV

[Lifeblood]

I have a cc repeater bard that I enjoy playing. she subs as my haggle bot to keep my clerics in scrolls
the only advice I would give is drop your intel. a bit and add the points to con.
Imo quicken is a great feat if you can fit it in. I took it instead of heighten

[wahrheit]

Thanks for the comment.

I tried to drop int down to 12, however I can only get 1 additional con, if I drop to 10 I can get 14 con total, but this only seems to add 16 hps, and +1 fort save over what I was at). By dropping INT I ended up losing a ton of skill points and can't max my 'perferred' list of skills (I added that in an edit because I was playing around with int dropping when you replied). What skills other than perform and concentrate are important to a bard? (I was assuming UMD, jump and at least Dip, if not balance too)

[Tuney]

The top 3 Perform , UMD , Diplomacy. All 3 are well known for why, Concentration depends on your bard build but still overall doesn't hurt to have. The last 2 or more if human/+int is mostly flavor/prefences like Haggle , Jump , Tumble , Balance , Move silent/Hide , bluff.

[Gum]

Thanks for the comment.

I tried to drop int down to 12, however I can only get 1 additional con, if I drop to 10 I can get 14 con total, but this only seems to add 16 hps, and +1 fort save over what I was at). By dropping INT I ended up losing a ton of skill points and can't max my 'perferred' list of skills (I added that in an edit because I was playing around with int dropping when you replied). What skills other than perform and concentrate are important to a bard? (I was assuming UMD, jump and at least Dip, if not balance too)

My suggestion would be to drop intel to a 10 and get your hands on a +2 intel tome. This should give you access to just about all of your skills I think, or atleast drop it to a 12 and eat a +2 tome. Next, I think your con will be fine at 12, just as long as you take the toughness feat, perhaps at creation, to get access to racial toughness, then craft you a greensteel hp item. Also, I didn't see extend anywhere in your feats. Extend seems like a must have on a bard imo for haste, buffs, etc. Finally, I drow get extra points added to their dexterity through action points. I think you will do just great with your build though. Maybe tweak it here or there. My starting numbers suggestion would be something like...

10
14
12
10
8
20