What can i do to add more flavor?

[WeaselKing]

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Fleshripper Gorund
Level 16 Chaotic Neutral Warforged Male
(16 Barbarian)
Hit Points: 324
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 5
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 18 24
Dexterity 10 10
Constitution 18 24
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 10 10
Charisma 6 6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 0 0
Bluff -2 -2
Concentration 4 7
Diplomacy -2 -2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -2 -2
Heal 0 0
Hide 0 0
Intimidate 2 18
Jump 8 26
Listen 4 19
Move Silently 0 0
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot 0 0
Swim 4 7
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 4 (Barbarian)


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
Enhancement: Barbarian Intimidate I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III

[skyking613]

Emeril would say BAM! and throw some stuff on it. Did you try that?

[Philam]

Roll a dwarf!

add at least 1 point in Tumble skill.

[WeaselKing]

Roll a dwarf!

add at least 1 point in Tumble skill.

Umm, no and ya I forgot that will lose two ranks in listen for it.

[Philam]

PS update your signature-Fleshvik is no longer lvl 3:)

[WeaselKing]

PS update your signature-Fleshvik is no longer lvl 3:)

I wish I could. Oh and i am deleting a dwarf for this build, fyi.

Actually two dwarves so i can build my wf ranger too.

[Philam]

I wish I could. Oh and i am deleting a dwarf for this build, fyi.

Actually two dwarves so i can build my wf ranger too.

*Phace weeps for his lost brethrens*

[alchilito]

*Phace weeps for his lost brethrens*

Blasphemy !

[kingfisher]

a yellow docent?

[WeaselKing]

Blasphemy !

Well at least he isn't crying over halflings.

[WeaselKing]

Seriously though what can I do to add something more than just blind dps to this build? I like my toons to do lots of things, thats why I like wizzies over sorcs and built my first ranger as a utility dex build.

[alchilito]

Seriously though what can I do to add something more than just blind dps to this build? I like my toons to do lots of things, thats why I like wizzies over sorcs and built my first ranger as a utility dex build.

dude, no disrespect towards the class, but imho, pure barbs are a no-brainer. There is not much flavor to give them unless you decide to go 14 barb / 2 ftr TWF pierce spec´d with built in grandfathered crit rage before its late.

flame away.

[Philam]

Seriously though what can I do to add something more than just blind dps to this build? I like my toons to do lots of things, thats why I like wizzies over sorcs and built my first ranger as a utility dex build.

Well the best thing about barbarians is dps. If you are going straight class then there is not a whole lot you can do. Keep intimidate maxed(which looks like you have). Other then that looks pretty solid.

[WeaselKing]

Well thats what I was afraid of, but with all the THF love I can't resist building it.

[WeaselKing]

PS update your signature-Fleshvik is no longer lvl 3:)

You don't even get to see her primary class. :(

[Impaqt]

A Point in tumble is way more beneficial over two points in Listen.


You want Flavor? Use Falchions or GreatClubs.

[WeaselKing]

A Point in tumble is way more beneficial over two points in Listen.

Yup, just forgot to edit it before I posted.


You want Flavor? Use Falchions or GreatClubs.

Oh, if only it weren't for that animation artist that cursed us with slow swing speeds and then left. >:(

[augie]

Take 1 off of CON and the 2 off of WIS and get DEX up to 14 or 15. With +2/+3 tomes, that will allows you to get your base DEX to 17 and access greater two-weapon fighting if you decide to respec later on.

It doesn't really add more flavor but it at least adds flexibility. If you get tired of THF and decide to change at higher levels, at least you don't have to completely re-roll.

That's all I really have to offer. Barbs aren't really flashy. Unless you get a pretty pink docent.

[alchilito]

Dont forget the +2 intel tome at creation for the extra skill points.

Doing backflips and sommersaults while in defiance mode is very cool too btw (but you already know this)

[WeaselKing]

Take 1 off of CON and the 2 off of WIS and get DEX up to 14 or 15. With +2/+3 tomes, that will allows you to get your base DEX to 17 and access greater two-weapon fighting if you decide to respec later on.

It doesn't really add more flavor but it at least adds flexibility. If you get tired of THF and decide to change at higher levels, at least you don't have to completely re-roll.

That's all I really have to offer. Barbs aren't really flashy. Unless you get a pretty pink docent.

Thank you but I will absolutely not want to switch to TWF with this build, I am quite fond of THF as is and mod 9 will only improve upon it. I am actually deleting a twf barb to roll this build.

[Impaqt]

Yup, just forgot to edit it before I posted.



Oh, if only it weren't for that animation artist that cursed us with slow swing speeds and then left. >:(

Flavor generally equals gimpier as far as barbs are concerned.

[Deadz]

Run all your quests on elite.. that will get you the favor you need.

[WeaselKing]

Flavor generally equals gimpier as far as barbs are concerned.

Lol, i suppose that's true, once had visions of a rgr/barb for wand healing, then I tried out rage. :(

[WeaselKing]

Run all your quests on elite.. that will get you the favor you need.

Groan. I would still read Xanth novels if I wanted more puns. :)

[augie]

Thank you but I will absolutely not want to switch to TWF with this build, I am quite fond of THF as is and mod 9 will only improve upon it. I am actually deleting a twf barb to roll this build.
That's fine. I'd still prefer DEX over WIS for the reflex saves. That's just a personal preference though.

My WF barb is a maul user as well and I won't be changing him for the world either. :)

[alchilito]

That's fine. I'd still prefer DEX over WIS for the reflex saves. That's just a personal preference though.

My WF barb is a maul user as well and I won't be changing him for the world either. :)

Them maul-wielding WF barbs do look quite impressive.

[Inspire]

Ditch Improved Critical; Slashing, from there pick up Improved Critical; Bludgeon, use Weighted 5% Mauls preferably +3 or better and if you could find a Holy or Elemental you will mow down every trash mob in your path come M9. Ps; Make a Mineral2 Greataxe.

Also, if you want more flavor make him theme based like, see how many guard items you can put on him, for example, Docent of Defiance/DT Docent with Radiance and Corrosive Salt guards, Radiance2 Hp and guard crafted item(2 item slots), Bramble Casters, etc.

[alchilito]

Ditch Improved Critical; Slashing, from there pick up Improved Critical; Bludgeon, use Weighted 5% Mauls preferably +3 or better and if you could find a Holy or Elemental you will mow down every trash mob in your path come M9. Ps; Make a Mineral2 Greataxe.

Also, if you want more flavor make him theme based like, see how many guard items you can put on him, for example, Docent of Defiance/DT Docent with Radiance and Corrosive Salt guards, Radiance2 Hp and guard crafted item(2 item slots), Bramble Casters, etc.

Some good points there. Groan (Nick) now has a legendary DQ completion where he beat the **** out of the DQ using his... Guards !!! rotfl

[WeaselKing]

Ditch Improved Critical; Slashing, from there pick up Improved Critical; Bludgeon, use Weighted 5% Mauls preferably +3 or better and if you could find a Holy or Elemental you will mow down every trash mob in your path come M9. Ps; Make a Mineral2 Greataxe.

Also, if you want more flavor make him theme based like, see how many guard items you can put on him, for example, Docent of Defiance/DT Docent with Radiance and Corrosive Salt guards, Radiance2 Hp and guard crafted item(2 item slots), Bramble Casters, etc.

Actually, mauls don't sound too bad......

And I am likely to stack this guy with all sorts of guards.

[Deadz]

Groan. I would still read Xanth novels if I wanted more puns. :)

Bored at work, I had nothing to add.. sorry.

[WeaselKing]

Bored at work, I had nothing to add.. sorry.

Lol, oh and get out from under my bed, you perv.

[Inspire]

Actually, mauls don't sound too bad......

And I am likely to stack this guy with all sorts of guards.

Yep, 2hF Enhancement Line + Greater 2hF + Frenzied Breserker III + Mighty(Capstone) + Weighted 5% Maul = Insanity

Imagine Defiance with Radiance Guards(50% miss chance that stacks with Blur/Displace, - Dex bonus to Ac, - 30% movement speed, - 2Ac)... and that is only if they hit you before they are stunned.

[WeaselKing]

Yep, 2hF Enhancement Line + Greater 2hF + Frenzied Breserker III + Mighty(Capstone) + Weighted 5% Maul = Insanity



Don't forget warforged greater weapon aptitude. I don't think i will be the only one making this build in mod 9.

[Inspire]

Don't forget warforged greater weapon aptitude. I don't think i will be the only one making this build in mod 9.

That would be the 2hF Enhancement Line.

[WeaselKing]

That would be the 2hF Enhancement Line.

I was wondering why you were mentioning THF/ITHF/GTHF and GTHF again. :)

[Hanam]

Air elementals will be the bane of your existance among other balance check things. Once you fail the initial strength check at least.

[WeaselKing]

Here is what I rolled, I put down imp crit:slash but I am considering going with bludgeoning and using weighted mauls as was suggested above.

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Fleshredder Gorund
Level 16 True Neutral Warforged Female
(16 Barbarian)
Hit Points: 276
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 7
Will: 3

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 18 22
Dexterity 13 14
Constitution 17 18
Intelligence 11 12
Wisdom 6 6
Charisma 6 6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 4 11.5
Bluff -2 -2
Concentration 4 4
Diplomacy -2 -2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -2 -2
Heal -2 -2
Hide 2 2
Intimidate 2 17
Jump 4 21
Listen 2 17
Move Silently 2 2
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 1 1
Spot -2 -2
Swim 4 6
Tumble 4 11.5
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Barbarian)


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)

[alchilito]

Couple of suggestions on starting points

Dump Intel to an 8 and eat a +2 intel at creation for the extra skill points.

Pump up wisdom. Base 6 wisdom ? Even a kobold is gonna be commanding you.

Just my 2 cp.

[WeaselKing]

Couple of suggestions on starting points

Dump Intel to an 8 and eat a +2 intel at creation for the extra skill points.

Pump up wisdom. Base 6 wisdom ? Even a kobold is gonna be commanding you.

Just my 2 cp.

Never had an issue with 6 wis before, Killer, Shadow and Chanter all have base 6 wis. Also, i kinda find the idea of a smarter barbarian amusing. I hvae a bad time looting +2 tomes, I have gotten far more +3's from Reaver than I ever have unbound 2's. Think I have looted 2 and gave one to Ph, whereas I have pulled at least 10 3's from the Reaver. so that is why I haven't planned on any +2's

[alchilito]

Never had an issue with 6 wis before, Killer, Shadow and Chanter all have base 6 wis. Also, i kinda find the idea of a smarter barbarian amusing. I hvae a bad time looting +2 tomes, I have gotten far more +3's from Reaver than I ever have unbound 2's. Think I have looted 2 and gave one to Ph, whereas I have pulled at least 10 3's from the Reaver. so that is why I haven't planned on any +2's

You must roll a lot of 20´s against greater command :D

Killer and Shadow are casters, not frontline tanks. Huge difference.

The idea of a smarter barbarian is not a role playing thing Flesh. Its extra skill points. Its versatility.

If you need a tome just holler man. But you already knew that.

[WeaselKing]

You must roll a lot of 20´s against greater command :D

Killer and Shadow are casters, not frontline tanks. Huge difference.

The idea of a smarter barbarian is not a role playing thing Flesh. Its extra skill points. Its versatility.

If you need a tome just holler man. But you already knew that.

Wouldn't be the first rp choice I have made, despite never playing rp-style, except when I play my 1/2-ling as an annoying little twerp. :D

And yes Shadow and Killer are casters but Chanter is frontline as well, and I have never seen an issue. Here's what i will do though, I am going to calculate Shredder's raged will save and compare it to Chanter's. I'm not really sure what the will progression is on a barb vs a bard (hadn't thought of that til just now) so I suppose it could make a difference. :P

[WeaselKing]

Looks like a bard has an inherent +10 will save @16 while a barb has +5, of course rage and enhancements can make up the difference. Man, though still can't remember the last time Chanter was commanded.

[alchilito]

Looks like a bard has an inherent +10 will save @16 while a barb has +5, of course rage and enhancements can make up the difference. Man, though still can't remember the last time Chanter was commanded.

Well, now that Chanter is in AM, get ready to be commanded constantly, commanded to sing courage, cast haste and rage on Groan.

Hahahaha

[WeaselKing]

Pulled a +2 wis tome on a Shroud hard run so I just ate that for more will. Seemed equivalent to taking the points out of int and putting em in wis and eating an int tome. Really thinking about going the maul route too.

[Humperdink]

WF DPS that can do many things with flavor? Easy- Tempest III 18ranger/1rogue/1 fighter or 1 monk. Power Attack with three ranks of WF racial added on. All kinds of buff magic, can charm doggies, evasion, 40 UMD, Intimidate in the high 40s to low 50s, can switch to Many Shot to deal short bursts of ranged dps and isn't crying about how hard the Vicious effect hurts from frenzied bezerker. Season to taste. As emeril said earlier in the thread- BAM! :)