pick your brains

[...v...]

I've been thinking about a building a pali, a 2 monk 14 pali. Any thoughts on how to go about it? Like to have 2 weapon fighting with good ac and saves. Maybe just 2 rog for the umd vs. the monk.

[tihocan]

Going 2 monk is going to be better AC-wise (but yes, UMD is nice too... you can't have it all... unless you go 1 monk/2 rogue or 2 monk/1 rogue, but then you can't get L18 paladin at L20, so you'll lose on the 3rd tier of whatever prestige class you go into).
It's an interesting build, but probably easy to do poorly too. Especially with only 28 pt. build, I'd advise you to at least get to 400 favor and unlock drow as it will help you getting good starting stats for such a build.
Once you figured out what you want it's a good idea to post the build on these forums to get feedback, since it's very easy to make mistakes as a new player.

[...v...]

Going 2 monk is going to be better AC-wise (but yes, UMD is nice too... you can't have it all... unless you go 1 monk/2 rogue or 2 monk/1 rogue, but then you can't get L18 paladin at L20, so you'll lose on the 3rd tier of whatever prestige class you go into).
It's an interesting build, but probably easy to do poorly too. Especially with only 28 pt. build, I'd advise you to at least get to 400 favor and unlock drow as it will help you getting good starting stats for such a build.
Once you figured out what you want it's a good idea to post the build on these forums to get feedback, since it's very easy to make mistakes as a new player.


not new just my 1st evasion pali, wondering onhow to spread ability points.

[negative]

not new just my 1st evasion pali, wondering onhow to spread ability points.
Are you on the trial right now? If not, you might be better off posting this in the pally forum.

[...v...]

Are you on the trial right now? If not, you might be better off posting this in the pally forum.

No I wanted to post here so you can sit here and tell me so.

[negative]

No I wanted to post here so you can sit here and tell me so.
Ok.....well I wish you the best of luck with your build.

[Assio]

Posting builds really doesn't belong on this forum, but I'll throw you a bone 'cause you're new.

This is a VERY high end build that will be great at end-game and will be even more amazing with the proper gear.

To start, This build requires:
+1 dex tome
Holy sword Kopesh ingredients
Patience

*If you dont have the tome, then lower Con to 11 and raise Dex to 17

Later on +2/+3 tomes, shroud gear, and raid items can be added for maximum effectiveness

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The Build:


Drow Elf
Lawful Good
14 Palidan/2 Monk



Level make-up:
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Level 1-8 Pali
level 9-10 Monk
level 11+ Pali

The 2 monk levels give
-added "wisdom bonus" to armor class
-2 extra feats
-evasion

The 14 pali levels give
-full palidan smites
-level 3 palidan prestige class
-full aura
-level 4 spells
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Starting stats:
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Str 14 +2 tome +6 item +4 stat = 26
Dex 16 +2 tome +6 item +2 Elf = 26
Con 12 +2 tome + 6 item = 20 Con
Int 10
Wis 12 +2 tome +6 item = 20
Cha 16 +1/3 tome +3 Paladin +6 item = 26/28

Str 26: Useful enough to incite damage
Dex 28: with a base dex of 16, you take +1 tome for 17 dex to get itwf/gtwf. Max dex gives great AC
Con 20: good enough to give you 400+HP with endgame gear
Int 10: base gives you the option to eat a +3 int tome later and get combat expertise
Wis 20: Cast level 4 Palidan spells, extra monk ac, extra SP
Cha 26/30: Increased Smite/loh/saves
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Feats
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1: Kopesh
3: Twf
6: Itwf
9: Improved critical: Slashing
9m: Power attack
10m: Toughness
15: CE/force of personality/Oversized twf/Skill Focus UMD or Intimidate depending on your flavor
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Skill Points:
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Level 1-8 Max UMD/Intimidate
Level 9 - Max UMD/Intimidate, remaining into balance and/or tumble
Level 11-16 - Max UMD/Intimidate
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Hit Points:
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20 - Heroic Durability
154 - Paladin 11
18 - Monk
90 - Con Bonus
18 - Toughness
18 - Minos Legens
40 - Paladin Toughness 4
20 - Racial Toughness 2
10 - Draconic Vitality
30 - Greater False Life
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418 Hit Points



Saves:
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9 / 4 / 4 – Paladin 11 Base
2 / 2 / 2 – Monk 2 Base
5 / 8 / 8 – Stat Mods
7 / 7 / 7 – Divine Grace
1 / 1 / 1 – Paladin Aura
3 / 3 / 3 – Resistance of Good 3
5 / 5 / 5 – Kardin’s Eye/Boots of the Innocent/+5 Resistance Item
2 / 2 / 2 – Head of good fortune
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34 / 32 / 32 – Standing Saves
38 / 36 / 36 – w/ Greater Heroism



To-Hit:
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15 - BAB
8 - STR
5 - +5 Weapon
4 - Greater Heroism
1 - Haste
1 - Rage Potion
3 - Divine Favor
2 - Tumbleweed
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+39 To-Hit bonus/+35 Dual wielding/+37 with *Oversize weapon
+35 Power Attack/+30 Power Attack/+32 Power Attack
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Damage:
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8 - STR
5 - +5 Weapon
1 - Rage Potion
3 - Divine Favor
4 - Divine Might 2
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+21 Damage/26 Damage w/PA



UMD:
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9 - Ranks
9 - Charisma
4 - Greater Heroism
3 - Golden Cartouche
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25 UMD
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2 - Seven-Fingered Gloves
2 - Head of Good Fortune
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29 UMD
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5 - Raid-Crafted Item with +5 Charisma Skills
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34 UMD
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*3 - Skill Focus UMD Feat
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37 UMD - Heal scroll on a 3, Auto success raise dead



Intimidate
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9 - Rank
9 - Charisma
4 - Greater Heroism
15 - Item
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37 - Basic intimidate
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2 - Head of Good Fortune
5 - Shroud item
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44 - With Raid gear
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*3 - Skill Focus Intimidate FEAT
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47 - With Skill Focus



AC:
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10 - Base
7 - AC Bracers
8 - Dexterity
6 - Monk
4 - Icy Rainment
5 – Protection +5 Item
1 - Paladin Aura
4 - Bulwark of Good 4
1 - Alchemical bonus
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46 AC Standing & Unbuffed
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4 - Shield Clicky
3 - Barkskin
1 - Haste Potion
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54 AC Self Buffed
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4 - +4 AC (Insight Bonus) Shroud Weapon
3 - Chattering Ring
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61 AC Self Buffed with Raid Loot
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2 - Ranger Bark
4 - Bard Song
2 - Recitation
2 - Defensive stance
*3 - Combat expertise
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71(*74) AC Fully Buffed & Stanced