View Full Version : can i get Jump skill to 76 or is caped at 40?
bazbaz
02-21-2009, 09:51 AM
Hey i want to make a ranger.
Should i put 19 ranks into jump, so that with the spell(30) + srt(12) + item(15) + ranks(19) = 76.
Or is the skill been capped at 40?
dopey69
02-21-2009, 10:06 AM
would ya wana waste all those points to get yer jump that high? i do not get it .let me guess you have a lot into listen too rotf
Arianrhod
02-21-2009, 10:23 AM
would ya wana waste all those points to get yer jump that high? i do not get it .let me guess you have a lot into listen too rotf
Why? Cause it's fun to be able to solo The Pit ;)
But I believe the skill is capped at (effective) 40; even though the numbers go higher, the height you can jump doesn't.
rimble
02-21-2009, 11:29 AM
Why? Cause it's fun to be able to solo The Pit ;)
But I believe the skill is capped at (effective) 40; even though the numbers go higher, the height you can jump doesn't.
You don't need any Jump to solo The Pit.
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 01:10 PM
You don't need any Jump to solo The Pit.
seconded
Asketes
02-21-2009, 02:40 PM
why do you care if he wants a high jump?
I have 16-20 jump on all my dps toons. It's nice to be able to pop around.
We don't have much else to put pts into (at least to be effective late lvl)
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 02:56 PM
why do you care if he wants a high jump?
I have 16-20 jump on all my dps toons. It's nice to be able to pop around.
We don't have much else to put pts into (at least to be effective late lvl)
because they are wasted points thats all ballance haggle tumble umd even bluff and diplomacy are better than maxing jump especially if you have the spell
Asketes
02-21-2009, 03:11 PM
well at 1/2 pt per full pt. i really don't see getting that stuff high enough to be valuable.. he'll get like a 15 in haggle.
My lvl one has a buffed haggle of 22
pointless
you need a buff/diplo/intim of 21-30 for GH stuff...
pointless
tumble at 15 may be useful and he can put his 2pts into that and balance
usefull
heal useful
still a couple pts left over, put em into jump
If you're actually recommending a ranger to put points into umd, you may want to just stop playing the game. most umd starts around 20. (some are like 14), but he will get NOWHERE close to that.
32skillpoints into umd -> 16 umd
maybe 10 Char (+0 mod)
+6 Cha item -> +3 mod
circlet of persuasion +3 mod
22 umd (like a dps is gonna where that stuff, UNLESS he is intim tank then he'll where the circlet to lvl 11 then he gets minos
that's more or less how i do it.
too many people think dumping pts into diplo or bluff or etc is good.. it's a ******** waste of time unless you are going to have enough to actually use the skill around gianthold lvls.
Just my opinion though, I suspect that came off a bit harsh and i apologize for being shrude
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 03:30 PM
well at 1/2 pt per full pt. i really don't see getting that stuff high enough to be valuable.. he'll get like a 15 in haggle.
My lvl one has a buffed haggle of 22
pointless
you need a buff/diplo/intim of 21-30 for GH stuff...
pointless
tumble at 15 may be useful and he can put his 2pts into that and balance
usefull
heal useful
still a couple pts left over, put em into jump
If you're actually recommending a ranger to put points into umd, you may want to just stop playing the game. most umd starts around 20. (some are like 14), but he will get NOWHERE close to that.
32skillpoints into umd -> 16 umd
maybe 10 Char (+0 mod)
+6 Cha item -> +3 mod
circlet of persuasion +3 mod
22 umd (like a dps is gonna where that stuff, UNLESS he is intim tank then he'll where the circlet to lvl 11 then he gets minos
that's more or less how i do it.
too many people think dumping pts into diplo or bluff or etc is good.. it's a ******** waste of time unless you are going to have enough to actually use the skill around gianthold lvls.
Just my opinion though, I suspect that came off a bit harsh and i apologize for being shrude
you can be as harsh as you want your still wrong my point was ANY skill would be better because even tho 15 points in haggle isn't great it's better than the WASTED points in jump since it caps at 40 10+jump spell is max anyway.
umd should be on every toon
10 base cha=0 mod
9 1/2 ranks max crossclass
3 +6 item
+4 gh
+3 deleras necklace
+6 shroud item can be lightning guard or sp for casters
+2 head of good fortune
thats 27 umd able to equip almost all rr items
+2 tome
+5 ranger or human skillboost
+2 for seven fingered gloves
is 35 no fail on a raise scroll for a ranger
hows that for useless? selfcast heal scrolls who needs them pfft.
Arianrhod
02-21-2009, 03:43 PM
It's a game, it's about having fun. Forget soloing the Pit. How about jumping up to the hand of that statue in the Harbor? There aren't that many games that let you jump around as much as DDO does, why not take advantage of it, if that's what you happen to enjoy?
I do think they capped it, though, so in that sense, putting a lot of points into it may well be a waste.
Asketes
02-21-2009, 04:14 PM
i agree with wasting pts above 40. hell even 20 should be max
but to say every toon should have umd is ridiculous. who has a bunch of rr items and is gonna put those on thier toon for"umd" instead of having items they need. like str bracers. or minos legens?
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 04:46 PM
i agree with wasting pts above 40. hell even 20 should be max
but to say every toon should have umd is ridiculous. who has a bunch of rr items and is gonna put those on thier toon for"umd" instead of having items they need. like str bracers. or minos legens?
u can put it all on just to bypass rr on items none of which you have to continue to wear.Heal scroll yourself? ya who needs that.
Asketes
02-21-2009, 06:36 PM
I suppose you make a relatively valid point with the heal scrolls.
It merely seems quite a bit of work to achieve and maintain the ability to scroll heal.
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 07:24 PM
it is alot of work but when you reach it there is that sense of self acomplishment it took alot of work to get there but you can now heal yourself and have to depend less on other people.
Asketes
02-21-2009, 07:34 PM
so what do you give up item wise while you are wearing umd boosters?
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 07:44 PM
neck maybe con for the golden cartouche or gloves if u get the titan gloves the +6 cha skills shroud item you give up nothing for just do hp every time go air pos get 45 hp +6 cha skills and make it a lightningstrike item.
Gh you will already have switch 2 items the neck for cartouch or the gloves for titan gloves and switch in a +6 cha item and your set.
bazbaz
02-21-2009, 09:54 PM
First of all thank you for all you replies.
to answer the question "Why?"
I play a 16 Sor and I spend most of my time jumping(skill 38) and Firewall/FoD.
It's a good way to range and avoid getting hit.
Lifespawn
02-21-2009, 11:01 PM
yes i agree but as i said over a 10 is pointless IF you plan on having the spell 10+30=40...cap
maddmatt70
02-24-2009, 12:47 PM
My level 14 thief acrobat can hit about 76 jump unfortunately there is no difference from a 40 or what have you. I have heard people can hit about 95-100 or so but again like I said no difference..
maddmatt70
02-24-2009, 12:48 PM
yes i agree but as i said over a 10 is pointless IF you plan on having the spell 10+30=40...cap
I hope that they make super high skill scores cool someday.. Epicish skills would be very cool...
Lifespawn
02-24-2009, 08:08 PM
I hope that they make super high skill scores cool someday.. Epicish skills would be very cool...
i think they will but not pertaining to jump since you could bypass so much content
with a very high jump score
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