Dual Wield Earth Grab

[Do'Urden]

Does anyone run around with dual Earthgrab weapons for trash mob DPS? I have my Raid boss beaters already, so I'm thinking about going this direction instead of a single Lightning II weapon (slash spec'ed GTWF Warchanter).

Any comments positive or negative regarding this combo?

UPDATE: So I went ahead and made the Dual Earthgrab Khopesh's and Earthgrab Boots (HP item). Like I said, I already have solid red-name beaters and was looking for something with a little flavor to use on trash mobs. So far....I LOVE THIS COMBO.

Pros:
- They're relatively *cheap* to make in terms of large ingredients.
- The DPS is very, very nice in the hands of a 30STR (unraged) GTWF Warchanter...even for trash resistant/immune to acid
- The Earthgrab procs OFTEN and not many trash mobs last long when it procs
- Almost nothing makes the 35DC reflex save (notwithstanding things immune or with FoM)
- The Earthgrab is an effective form of Defense (helpless) and Offense (auto-crit)
- You can get up to +3 exceptional CON on one of the weapons
- Warchanter-buffed Dense Stone Earth Elementals are pretty durable and impressive to watch even if they're a bit stupid at times :D
- The flavor of Earthgrab is interesting. It's funny to watch spiders and other random trash get grabbed...the animations amuse me :D
- NOT CHEESY :D

Cons:
- I'll probably get bored of it after awhile but, hey, it will be fun for now at least :D
- I still don't have a really solid way for dealing with stuff like Air Elementals...unless you count a Wounding of Puncturing Xbow and Haste ;)

Khopesh 1 (Main Hand, EDM, EDM, EDM) - Acid, Acid Burst, Acid Blast, Earthgrab, 2x Summon Dense Stone Earth Ellie
Khopesh 2 (Off Hand, EDM, EEM, EEM) - Acid, Exceptional CON +1, Exceptional CON +2, Earthgrab, 2x Summon Dense Stone Earth Ellie
Boots (EDM, EDM, EDM) - +45HP, Earthgrab, 2x Summon Dense Stone Earth Ellie

It works for me...as always YMMV!

[Angelus_dead]

Any comments positive or negative regarding this combo?
Earthgrab isn't Holy, meaning it does less DPS than the alternatives.

[QuintonReece]

I recently made a couple and love them for trash.

I have an earthgrab guard cloak and 2 earthgrab (acid/acid/acid) picks.

Really nice when I'm soloing. I can pull out 6 earth ele's and go to town.

The ele's will start earthgrabbing stuff, and I'll wade in swinging, if they(enemies) hit me they sometimes get earth grabbed and when I hit them they soemtimes get earthgrabed.

So...... there's a whole lot of earthgrabbing going on (as well as agro mitigation with the ele's taking agro as well as the mobs being earthgrabbed and not being able to hit you while grabbed) which is great because I dual weild picks. (x4 Crit)

Reallllly fun to play with.


So in a nut shell:

The are hitting you less because they are fighting with your ele's or they are earth grabbed.
and
You are crit'ing MUCH more often while doing more damage because of the crit multiplier of your weapon.( 4xdamage with picks.)

If you're a crit specc'd barbarian it's really a lot of fun.
But,... as you said. Get another type for bosses.

[Spisey]

Depending how far you wanted to go with it you could do freezing ice guard instead. You still get crits when encased and the lightning will hit more or less as much as acid for most mobs. Also, the encasement seems to last longer than an earth grab and prots about the same. Big diff is the dual shard. Seems pretty fun all the same.

[McBadger]

I have a pair of eathgrabbing heavy picks on my twf barb and love them. Bargain priced, sexy effect, effective elementals for additional earth grabbage, acid works on most critter, and auto 4x crits when they fire off. They're fun and they're fun for the rest of the people in the party as well. (stunning blow monks know what i mean) Two thumbs up! The only reason people aren't more excited about them is that they're inexpensive.

[bigj1608]

Earthgrab isn't Holy, meaning it does less DPS than the alternatives.

Holy doesn't = earthgrab :D

[QuintonReece]

Earthgrab isn't Holy, meaning it does less DPS than the alternatives.

Is this a serious statement? If so, can you elaborate? This seems to make no sense in the context of the OPs question.

[brool]

the guy is basing the fact that the earth grab deals acid / acid burst dmg instead of holy / goodburst dmg like that of a triple pos weapon. Its true that the earthgrab weapons do not due as much damage to most mobs, but its great against mobs that are not resistant to acid.

Secondly I think dual earthgrab weapons is a lil over kill. Its a great effect, and I run with an earthgrab kama in wongs off hand, however I think two of them is a lil much when that second weapon could be focused more on dmg than the earthgrab effect.

[Do'Urden]

Secondly I think dual earthgrab weapons is a lil over kill. Its a great effect, and I run with an earthgrab kama in wongs off hand, however I think two of them is a lil much when that second weapon could be focused more on dmg than the earthgrab effect.

Valid point, but 2 of them is PERFECT as far as I'm concerned. If I had another hand to swing, I'd probably make a 3rd one for mowing down trash even faster :p

[Do'Urden]

Depending how far you wanted to go with it you could do freezing ice guard instead. You still get crits when encased and the lightning will hit more or less as much as acid for most mobs. Also, the encasement seems to last longer than an earth grab and prots about the same. Big diff is the dual shard. Seems pretty fun all the same.

Freezing Ice is really, really cool but I was trying to get off cheap with my Bard. I've done 5 or 6 dual shard weapons for other toons and am tired of the 24 Large Ingredient grind per hand. 2WF toons suck to equip ;)

[Pyromaniac]

Earthgrab is great, especially for non-high DPS characters.

[QuintonReece]

the guy is basing the fact that the earth grab deals acid / acid burst dmg instead of holy / goodburst dmg like that of a triple pos weapon. Its true that the earthgrab weapons do not due as much damage to most mobs, but its great against mobs that are not resistant to acid.

Secondly I think dual earthgrab weapons is a lil over kill. Its a great effect, and I run with an earthgrab kama in wongs off hand, however I think two of them is a lil much when that second weapon could be focused more on dmg than the earthgrab effect.

Well I'm not a number cruncher but I'm sure that you'll get much more damage out of earthgrab weapon due to the fact it will be auto-crit'ing so much. These things go off a lot.

Secondly that is the perfect reason to go dual earthgrab instead of a "higher dps" weapon. The more they are earthgrabbed the more damage you will be doing.

[eyepuppy]

Is this a serious statement? If so, can you elaborate? This seems to make no sense in the context of the OPs question.

Don't pay attention to him. Just /ignore and move on :)

dual earthgrab is awesome, but is it worth the large ingredients? I would say no, unless you like too loot run high level content. This is coming from a guy who really only runs raids though.

[vtecfiend99]

Earthgrab isn't Holy, meaning it does less DPS than the alternatives.

Way to completely miss the point of a post... not something you do often. By the way, the dps of these is pretty high even against acid immune mobs due to the almost constant auto crit. Made these for my ranger and never regret it. I have more fun with these than any other weapon in my arsenal.